ebay h4 conversion kit installed - Page 8

flashkl · 03-05-2009, 03:59 AM

As long as you get fairly high quality enclosures like the hellas, or the autopals, even a 55 low beam should make for a better beam and pattern than what you've got now. I am very happy with the power output I get with the 80s, though, and I strongly recommend them.

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gary96360 · 03-05-2009, 07:23 PM

i thought of getting the 100/90 but 90 low beam is like high beam. then whats the point of having high beam

flashkl · 03-05-2009, 07:33 PM

Cause low beam is a lower beam than high beam... so as not to blind oncoming drivers? It doesn't matter how much light the low beams putting out, it's pointing it at a steeper angle than the high beams towards the street, so it's never gonna be able to illuminate as far ahead as high beams.

gary96360 · 03-05-2009, 09:06 PM

yeah i should had got 90 watts but i want to upgrade my harness first. i ordered these headlights today
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-95...2197QQtcZphoto

flashkl · 03-06-2009, 04:39 AM

hope you didn't get the clue blue bulb...

GenXr · 03-06-2009, 04:40 PM

I've read quite a bit about the Auotpal on different forums and although most folks seem to like them, especially the price, I don't think I'm going to buy them.

I've been talking with Daniel Stern from danielsternlighting.com. His products are considerably more expensive but I think my headlights are a critical system that I don't want to skimp on.

I'm sure I'll get laughed out here for my decision. I'm certainly not turning my nose up at anyone with the Autopals who have saved money and are happy with the product's performance. This thread has been very helpful.

gary96360 · 03-06-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashkl

hope you didn't get the clue blue bulb...

i got the white 100/55 bulbs. im not a wannabe hid person lol. the same guy sells a hid kit with those projector headlights for like 70 bucks

gary96360 · 03-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenXr

I've read quite a bit about the Auotpal on different forums and although most folks seem to like them, especially the price, I don't think I'm going to buy them.

I've been talking with Daniel Stern from danielsternlighting.com. His products are considerably more expensive but I think my headlights are a critical system that I don't want to skimp on.

I'm sure I'll get laughed out here for my decision. I'm certainly not turning my nose up at anyone with the Autopals who have saved money and are happy with the product's performance. This thread has been very helpful.

so you think the autopals arent safe enough. so im skimping on a critical system by buying these ebay lights over 10 dollar sealed beams u buy at a store that are so bad u cant see anything at night. even if these are cheapo, theyre still way better than those 6 dollar h4 conversion lights and the pieces of garbage sealed beams soold in stores.

flashkl · 03-06-2009, 09:43 PM

The autopals are fine. I'm pretty sure the beam pattern on the lens is the same or very similar to that on the Hella H4 enclosures, and Hella has spent plenty of mone on R&D to get it right. The ones on Daniel Stern's site are PIAAs which I'm sure are perfectly good ie on the same level as the Hella and the Autopals. I'm sure there's minor differences, but you wouldn't be skimping on a piece of important safety equiptment.

gary96360 · 03-07-2009, 01:08 PM

i re read the the posts on this thread and noticed a few guys didnt like the autopal clear diamond cut ones

flashkl · 03-07-2009, 04:39 PM

Listen, don't worry about it. There is nothing wrong with the autopal enclosures, they are a good deal and they put out good light. You made a good purchase

gary96360 · 03-07-2009, 09:34 PM

i paid about 70 bucks Canadian shipped 52bucks US . the dollar here is so low its not funny. it was pretty nice when the can dollar was on par with US

Jay351 · 03-07-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary96360

i paid about 70 bucks Canadian shipped 52bucks US . the dollar here is so low its not funny. it was pretty nice when the can dollar was on par with US

I hope those lights work out for you. I really don't like the look of the lense though....

GenXr · 03-08-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary96360

so you think the autopals arent safe enough. so im skimping on a critical system by buying these ebay lights over 10 dollar sealed beams u buy at a store that are so bad u cant see anything at night. even if these are cheapo, theyre still way better than those 6 dollar h4 conversion lights and the pieces of garbage sealed beams soold in stores.

Either you didn't read my whole post or you are really, really sensitive! I clearly said that I thought the autopals were fine for folks who've bought them. I'm not personally convinced that I would be happy with them. That is all. From what I've read and the pictures I've seen, I'm not 75% convinced that the quality is what I want. A couple of folks have reported the reflector came loose easily and on a number of other forums I've read that the housings have not fit tightly and needed gaskets or shims. I'm certain the beam pattern and light output of the H4 conversion is worlds better over stock.

I also don't think there is any harm in not agreeing with everyone on any particular mod or saying so in the respectful way that I did. What you've done to your truck is perfectly fine and legit, and I reserve the right to follow suit or not to and simply state why. That is all. I have never bashed anybody's rig on yotatech or any forum.

gary96360 · 03-08-2009, 08:06 PM

my bad sorry about that. yeah the autopals arent the best but theyre way better than those 6 dollar diamond cut lights on ebay or those stock sealed beams.

Blue Bowtie · 03-08-2009, 08:17 PM

Hey what's up, pretty new here. Just wandering about the ebay lights and how do yall like them so far. These are the ones that I'm looking at.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm...ht_2415wt_1200

OutlawMike · 03-14-2009, 10:42 PM

Put in the DOT legal H4 conversions tonight. These lights:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm...Q5fAccessories

I ugraded to the 100/55 W white bulb.

Talk about an easy swap, I have all brand new clips on my grill, so, just popped it off with no problems, and unscrewed the bezels around the sealed beams. When I last replaced the sealed beams I swapped out the screws for stainless M4 x .7 cusp washer, T20 drive machine screws. Stock hardware in lab stock where I work. That made it easier than fighting the damn rusted Philips that were in there before.

I left the sealed beams dangling on the harness so that I could measure my voltage drop from the battery. With the engine off, ignition on, lights on low beam I measured 11.96 V across the battery. At the lights I measured 11.63 to 11.69. Not much of a drop to the lights.

I am not that confident in the water sealing of the rubber boot that comes with the lights. I may put some silicon on the seal tomorrow just to be sure.

They bolted in quick and easy. I did a minor adjustment to one light, but that was it.

I took pics, they suck, I will not bother posting them.

On Low beam they are vastly superior. Far more infill and spread. A huge difference.

On High beam, not so much. More light down the road, but significantly less spread on the sides. I would almost say that I liked the sealed beam on high better, due to the side of the road coverage.

Now, I do not think the majority of the guys posting on here bought the DOT legal lights. They seem to have gotten the "E" code lights. Maybe that is the difference on high beam that I am seeing.

Mike

Jay351 · 03-14-2009, 10:49 PM

I found that having a set of fog lights really fills out the space that the hi-beams do not eluminate.

fogs + highbeams =

RocknRon206 · 03-14-2009, 10:58 PM

I went with the autopals DOT version. Way better than stock and was cheap ...shoulda went with a stronger bulb but planning to get a new harness first.
I'm satisfied for now untill I crave for more light!

regularjoe · 03-15-2009, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary96360

i re read the the posts on this thread and noticed a few guys didnt like the autopal clear diamond cut ones

I was one who didn't like the diamond cut ones. I would get a different style next time. I do think part of it was because I didn't upgrade the bulbs I just took the blue lower watt oned that came with them. The patter scattered too quick on the low beams. I think If I would have get a white bulb and a higher watt bulb they could have worked out alot better. He refunded me for the purchase price. I do still plan to puchase another set in the d.o.t. style or ecode stye.
Let us know how they work.

OutlawMike · 03-15-2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocknRon206

I went with the autopals DOT version. Way better than stock and was cheap ...shoulda went with a stronger bulb but planning to get a new harness first.
I'm satisfied for now untill I crave for more light!

They are definitely better on low beam. Did you notice a lack of "spread" off the side of the road on high beam? There is more light in the road and far down the road, but less coverage on the left and right.

That is my only complaint so far. Like you said, a cheap upgrade, and easy. I started at 9:15 last night and drove it out of the garage at 9:40.

My two year old is in my lap while I am typing this. He wants me to post the big campfire picture. Nothing meant by it, he wants to see it and he is too damn cute to say no:

gary96360 · 03-15-2009, 03:26 PM

i should receive the package in a couple of days. i will post pics once i install the lights. i hope my lights dont break during shipping because i didnt pay for iinsurance, because i had just enough money in paypal to buy them and i didnt want to wait a week for more money to clear.

rbpwrd · 03-20-2009, 07:26 AM

after reading this entire thread, it seems that the ones who ordered the ecode (non DOT approved lights) are much happier with the lights than those who have ordered the DOT approved ones.

I'm on the fence as to which ones to order. I like the idea of having a DOT approved light, but at the same time, i'd prefer to have the better performance lights.

I plan to run an HID conversion in the near future with whatever housings I decide to get.

So in a nutshell, which would be ones better option? the dot approved, or non dot approved?

On a side note, it seems that the diamond cut ones, are out of the question as nobody seems to be happy with them at all.

874runnersr5 · 03-20-2009, 07:55 AM

So, from what i gather reading.
All i need to do is order these lights, pick the bulbs i want. And done?

Elton · 03-20-2009, 10:11 AM

pretty much

03-06-2009, 04:40 PM	#181 (permalink)
GenXr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 562	I've read quite a bit about the Auotpal on different forums and although most folks seem to like them, especially the price, I don't think I'm going to buy them. I've been talking with Daniel Stern from danielsternlighting.com. His products are considerably more expensive but I think my headlights are a critical system that I don't want to skimp on. I'm sure I'll get laughed out here for my decision. I'm certainly not turning my nose up at anyone with the Autopals who have saved money and are happy with the product's performance. This thread has been very helpful. __________________ Old Blue - 1995 Xtra Cab 4x4

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Blue Bowtie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Panhandle Posts: 65	Hey what's up, pretty new here. Just wandering about the ebay lights and how do yall like them so far. These are the ones that I'm looking at. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm...ht_2415wt_1200 __________________ 1990 Pickup DLX, 22RE-5spd-4x4 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3219090

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RocknRon206 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northwest Posts: 11	I went with the autopals DOT version. Way better than stock and was cheap ...shoulda went with a stronger bulb but planning to get a new harness first. I'm satisfied for now untill I crave for more light! __________________ 94 xtra cab 3.slow-240k miles and counting-2" BL-Custom leaf packs-Shackles-BJ spacer-Cranked T-bars-ES3000-33X12.5 BFG Muds-ISR mod-Autopal lights

03-20-2009, 07:55 AM	#199 (permalink)
874runnersr5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Canaduh Posts: 2,786	So, from what i gather reading. All i need to do is order these lights, pick the bulbs i want. And done? __________________ 87' 4runner Sr5 : 22re : 5spd : 32x11.5 BGF Km2 : Cragar 15x8 soft 8s : TG Rock Defense Front Bumper : Sirius radio : Optima Red Top : Pioneer system : Engnbldr tchain kit : Downey 3" leafs : Diff breather : Tube doors : Bikini Top Calgary Toyota Association I <3 my Toyota

03-14-2009, 10:42 PM	#192 (permalink)
OutlawMike Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 397	Put in the DOT legal H4 conversions tonight. These lights: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm...Q5fAccessories I ugraded to the 100/55 W white bulb. Talk about an easy swap, I have all brand new clips on my grill, so, just popped it off with no problems, and unscrewed the bezels around the sealed beams. When I last replaced the sealed beams I swapped out the screws for stainless M4 x .7 cusp washer, T20 drive machine screws. Stock hardware in lab stock where I work. That made it easier than fighting the damn rusted Philips that were in there before. I left the sealed beams dangling on the harness so that I could measure my voltage drop from the battery. With the engine off, ignition on, lights on low beam I measured 11.96 V across the battery. At the lights I measured 11.63 to 11.69. Not much of a drop to the lights. I am not that confident in the water sealing of the rubber boot that comes with the lights. I may put some silicon on the seal tomorrow just to be sure. They bolted in quick and easy. I did a minor adjustment to one light, but that was it. I took pics, they suck, I will not bother posting them. On Low beam they are vastly superior. Far more infill and spread. A huge difference. On High beam, not so much. More light down the road, but significantly less spread on the sides. I would almost say that I liked the sealed beam on high better, due to the side of the road coverage. Now, I do not think the majority of the guys posting on here bought the DOT legal lights. They seem to have gotten the "E" code lights. Maybe that is the difference on high beam that I am seeing. Mike

03-20-2009, 07:26 AM	#198 (permalink)
rbpwrd Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 17	after reading this entire thread, it seems that the ones who ordered the ecode (non DOT approved lights) are much happier with the lights than those who have ordered the DOT approved ones. I'm on the fence as to which ones to order. I like the idea of having a DOT approved light, but at the same time, i'd prefer to have the better performance lights. I plan to run an HID conversion in the near future with whatever housings I decide to get. So in a nutshell, which would be ones better option? the dot approved, or non dot approved? On a side note, it seems that the diamond cut ones, are out of the question as nobody seems to be happy with them at all.

03-20-2009, 10:11 AM	#200 (permalink)
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