jode

I am just getting my head back on and everything put back together after a HG replacement on my 94 22RE. When I pulled the EGR, I seem to recall scraping a gasket off it, but now that I am going to reinstall everything, I don't have an EGR gasket in my engineblder.com engine gasket kit. This is what the EGR looks like to refresh your memory:



This is about the closest gasket I can find in the kit, but it doesn't really fit exactly right, and I'd REALLY hate to screw up this job. Any thoughts?

DeathCougar

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that is not the right gasket. That is for the EGR pipe that attaches to the intake.

Look at your lower intake gasket...it should be attached to that. Its all one gasket for the lower intake/EGR

MudHippy

That's the EGR gasket for my 3vze, can I have it? I need a new one. Kidding. You could probably just make one out of bulk gasket material. Get it as thick or thicker than that one there.

DeathCougar

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NO NO NO

do NOT do this!

The EGR to Head gasket is the SAME GASKET as the intake gasket. It needs to be the same thickness, or the egr pipe will not bolt up correctly to the upper intake.

jode

DeathCougar - thanks for the info - I must have been wrenching too long tonight to not have though of that. I didn't even check it. Thanks for the tip. I am going to call it a night and jump back on it tomorrow now that I know what to do.

MudHippy

What kinda gasket mat. are you talkin'? There aint that much difference in thickness, and you could probably get the same exact and make one very easily. Without the slightest risk of malfunction. That's what it's made for.

DeathCougar

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the gasket that he has shown is very thick. If you make it thicker that that, you are running into alignment issues. Its not a matter of sealing or not.

MudHippy

I see, thank you. I thought you mighta been one of those, "NO CHEAP FIX" or "BY THE BOOK ONLY" types. They are wearin' on me. We're not all made of money. And anybody knows, whatever works, WORKS.

DeathCougar

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well, i prefer factory parts, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do lol

jode

OK - spent the evening swimming in Hi-tack and got the intake manifold and the EGR valve installed. It just never dawned on me that two separate parts would use the same gasket. Your post turned on the lightbulb though. Thanks again

...on to the next snag:

It seems now i have just one gasket for what appears to be three junctions. Both ends of the No 1 Secondary Air Injection Pipe, and the EGR tube thingy (as pictured below seem to use an identical gasket, but that one in the pics is the only one I have. Did the gasket folks short me, or am I having another brain fart?

EGR tube


No 1 Secondary Air Injection Pipe

DeathCougar

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that gasket should be for the No. 1 secondary injection pipe.

jode

Which end of it? Both ends look like they could use one...and then what do I use on the EGR one?

langzaiguy

I'm faced with the same scenario. Does another gasket need to be purchased? Or does the No. 1 Air Injection Manifold only require one gasket? I think the FSM says to use two.

DaHos

Yup, sure do ..... I don't quite understand the gaskets in the Engbldr kit....complete??????

Picked 1 up at the dealer for my last build and just ordered another for my new build.........

langzaiguy

I bought the engbldr gasket set but like Jode, it only came with one gasket for the air pipe. Looks like I'm going to the dealer.

jode

I guess enginebldr.com is going to have to change the name of the company to cracksmkr.com. THis can't be that difficult can it? Aren't all these 22REs the same?

FYI, I ended up paying an additional $16 or something at the stealership for the two extra gaskets that cracksmkr.com shorted me

langzaiguy

Haha thanks for the info--and thanks for the use of your thread. Can't say I have much ill will towards engbldr. Then again, I haven't started the engine yet to see how my new head/cam work. What was the other gasket you had to buy?

jode

I harbor no ill-will towards cracksmkr.com....just poking some fun at them since they cost me some dough and a PITA. I would prolly buy their kit again since it was a good kit and cheap....but if I found a competitor with a similar price, I'd prolly save the $$ and buys theirs.

I bought several of the same gasket to make sure I had it covered. I may have had one left over when finished, but I don't remember. IIRC, there were 3 holes that needed that gasket and cracksmkr only sent one.

DeathCougar

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All aftermarket kits are short gaskets. No matter how much their marketing department tells you its "complete" it never is. You will always need to get some gaskets from the dealer.

And as an aside, not all 22RE's are the same. They changed several times from 85-95, including induction, exhaust, wiring, sensors, plugs, etc etc. Thats why when you swap out an engine from another vehicle, you have to reuse all your wiring etc.

billmaness

I ran into that same problem a few weeks ago. I thought that with several gaskets similar, they figured I would not destroy all of them on teardown and I would need only 1 new one. They were right! With 1 new gasket and some old gaskets from the garbage can, I was able to finish my rebuild.

Yes, complete does not mean complete, and permanent is only temporary!