Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

Cruise control actuator question

Old 03-26-2014, 07:20 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
batmanurd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cruise control actuator question

I've used the search and have read almost every post dealing with cruise control but still haven't got it figured out. I have a 93 4runner 3.0 auto. My cruise light comes on but I can't set my speed. My vacuum Hosea are hooked up right with a good vacuum no sign of leaks. I'm thinking possibly the actuator is stuck because when you apply throttle the actuator cable keeps all the slack in it. Maybe this is normal. I don't know. One other thing it does is if I push the accel button and let off the gas my rpms won't drop all the way but stay about 1000 higher until I let off the button. Any ideas?
Old 03-27-2014, 06:36 AM
  #2  
RJR
Registered User
 
RJR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 0
Received 109 Likes on 81 Posts
Troubleshooting cruise controls is tricky because you can't stand beside the truck during operation and look at what's going on. I would suggest looking at this section of the FSM http://ether3al.physic.al/93fsm-mobi...10cruiseco.pdf and following the diagnostic procedures. Hopefully that will point you in the right direction.

I was under the impression that the 93-94 vintage cruise system was not vacuum operated at all, but instead used a motor drive to actuate the cable.
Old 03-27-2014, 07:55 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
scope103's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco East Bay
Posts: 8,251
Likes: 0
Received 820 Likes on 648 Posts
My '94 uses a vacuum actuator.

There are 26 pages of diagnostics http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...10cruiseco.pdf. I would go through them (they are not difficult; mostly checking the electronics), and toward the end you will directly check for a stuck actuator by using a vacuum pump (and a multimeter).
Old 03-27-2014, 08:57 AM
  #4  
RJR
Registered User
 
RJR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 0
Received 109 Likes on 81 Posts
Originally Posted by scope103
My '94 uses a vacuum actuator.
Interesting. In the FSM ('93 version) I referenced above, it shows a vacuum actuator for both the 3vze and the 22re. The manual I have at home on my computer shows a motor drive actuator for the 3vze, which is what I have. The 22re still shows vacuum.

They must have changed the actuator sometime in '94 for the 3vze. Mine was built in May of '94, so it's a relatively late '94.

Sounds like the OP should be looking for a vacuum system, for sure.
Old 03-27-2014, 02:57 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
batmanurd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for y'all's help. I'll take a look as soon as I get off work. I'm still curious about the actuator cable. Is it supposed to not move with the throttle? When I have the hood up and give it gas at the throttle body the actuator cable stays still. Could someone look and see if theirs does the same. It seems like there would be tension but I'm no mechanic just some guy who try's to figure it out himself. And with your help of course.
Old 03-27-2014, 08:32 PM
  #6  
RJR
Registered User
 
RJR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 0
Received 109 Likes on 81 Posts
That's correct operation. It keeps the actuator from interfering with normal accelerator operation when the cruise is disengaged. The cruise control cable can pull the throttle open when engaged, but it can't prevent the throttle from opening when the accelerator is pressed.
Old 03-27-2014, 08:41 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
hitsua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RJR
Troubleshooting cruise controls is tricky because you can't stand beside the truck during operation and look at what's going on. I would suggest looking at this section of the FSM http://ether3al.physic.al/93fsm-mobi...10cruiseco.pdf and following the diagnostic procedures. Hopefully that will point you in the right direction.

I was under the impression that the 93-94 vintage cruise system was not vacuum operated at all, but instead used a motor drive to actuate the cable.
Sure you can...just duct tape your cell phone inside your engine and record
Old 03-30-2014, 10:39 AM
  #8  
Registered User
 
scope103's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco East Bay
Posts: 8,251
Likes: 0
Received 820 Likes on 648 Posts
Originally Posted by RJR
They must have changed the actuator sometime in '94 for the 3vze. Mine was built in May of '94, so it's a relatively late '94.
This page seems to show both types of actuators as replacement parts, and if I read the fitment section correctly, both types will fit all of the same vehicles. Note that fitment doesn't actually tell you what was "standard" equipment; they may just be interchangable.

So when replacing the actuator, you may get a choice!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
shisha1999
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners
12
09-21-2015 08:22 PM
rushw
General Electrical & Lighting Related Topics
4
07-18-2015 01:46 PM
icentropy
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
7
07-14-2015 10:23 AM
TokyoD23
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
4
07-12-2015 06:01 AM
AaronM
Items Wanted
0
07-08-2015 07:15 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Cruise control actuator question



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:00 PM.