jpmountainboy

I just found the creeper joint shackle mounts on the TG site, http://www.trail-gear.com/shackles.html, they seem sick. i was wondering if anyone is rolling around on em.

It seems like it would really help your rig lean into obstacles...maybe even reduce the tip over point, or increase it, however you want to say it.

any word on the wise?

wheatus

that seems like a lot of lateral movement i wonder if your truck would wander all over the road? it just looks like a bad idea to me, i would like to see someone else use them though.

jpmountainboy

yea, thats what I was wondering, but maybe mounting shocks angled in keep it under control. however, it seems like they would only flex sideways when your wheeling over something bigger than a speedbump and not so much just rolling along.

anyone?

Mic09dcsm

Just rolling if you think about how the joint works it wouldn't be able to move because it would be anchored at the fronts and the rears would anchor each other unless you were flexing.

jpmountainboy

my fronts have some wiggle room, but they are pretty old so im not sure if thats how they are supposed to be, getting new ones and thats when I stumbled across these, so its making me wonder...

wheatus

looks like it would keep blowing u-joints in the driveshaft

aviator

From what I can see and from reading the install instructions warning these are intended for use on trail only machines, not for road vehicles.
The greaseable shakles on the other hand look like a good idea for all around use.

mattaway

that's exactly what i was thinking....

deez4wdsparechange

i have them on my truck and they handle just fine on the road and help lots with flex on the trails. actually makes my truck feel more stable on off camber situations.

eighty5yota

really? thats awesome. kinda like how a double shackle situation is.

yes its for off highway use.. but if you dont drive like a jackass

youll be fine. how much flex did you gain? or is it measured by feel?

deez4wdsparechange

they say u get about 1 or 2 degrees out of them, not sure exactly how much flex i gained cause i did all new springs when i installed the creeper mounts i really like them tho i feel more stable.

jpmountainboy

it would be sweet if you could somehow lock em out if you want.

Hypoid

All Pro offers an equivalent. I know a truck that's been running them on and off road for 3 years now. It's great.

I have no idea why folks would think it would blow ujoints.

This is old news, not a recent thing. Works fine.

scottsolinko

Everything TG sells is for off road use only,k it's in their disclaimer.

AxleIke

Uh...Why would it do anything to the drive shaft or wander? It is the same as a Johnny joint. The only movement it allows is exactly what its designed to do, allow the shackle to rotate when flexing.

One of the things that can limit flex with leaf springs is that the spring has to bend sideways when the axle flexes. At a certain point, the force of the twisted spring is too much for the truck to overcome. These allow for more axle flex before that happens.

Dozens of rigs, including mine, are running these exact same joints in a link set up, and they are some of the strongest out there.

AZkid

creepers look good and effective, i may have to give them a try with my sas