Chinese 4Y motor - anyone every tried?

kingoddball · 01-18-2013, 11:47 PM

My 4runner is still out of action after its big water trip.
I got everything back to good except the motor.

Now when it starts, it's blowing smoke (white'ish).

Took it to a mechanic and he said it's burning oil. So, I'm thinking it's rings are out somewhere.

The person who killed it decided it would be a good idea to try clutch/push start it without pulling the plugs are checking for water, so it's probably hurt the rings.

I found a brand new 4Y engine on eBay - $1000, got REALLY excited, but decided to ask the seller where it was made. China.

Worried. Anyone have any experience with Chinese motors?

Local mechanic said I could have more problems with that than with my 360,000KM original motor.

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schwyter · 01-19-2013, 05:45 AM

that engine is ˟˟˟˟ing ˟˟˟˟, why would you want it? if money is no object, and i'm assuming you already have the 22re since you're looking for a replacement 4cyl, just do a 3rz swap. buy a totalled donor truck, shouldn't cost any more than 1500 bucks

bone collector · 01-19-2013, 06:22 AM

x2 ^^^ why put a van motor in a truck that your gonna off road?? if your gonna do custom work go with a 3rz. buy the whole truck thats wrecked then scrap what you dont need. several people have done 3rz swaps and are getting mid 20 mpgs and more power then a 22re. take a serious look at it

combatcarl · 01-19-2013, 08:34 AM

Ew. Gross. Chinese motor? No. Just rebuild your 22RE, get another 360,000km out of it. And how long did you run it? My brother didn't swamp it, but his land rover slept upside down overnight, thing smoked for a day after, and intermittently after that.

vikkz · 01-19-2013, 09:56 AM

3rz or 5vz swap is what you need instead. Only problem is that a 3rz is a bit hard to find now a days, i got a buddy here that has been looking for one for a while but the junk yards that get a hold of one it already gots a waiting list for it.

donomite49 · 01-19-2013, 10:26 AM

i love my 5vz, but if i was going 4 cyl i would have to go 3rz.

heres a good 3rz info thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19275.0

kingoddball · 01-19-2013, 02:55 PM

Wouldn't I need a new gearbox as well?
It's a good idea about upgrading the engine.
Seems very costly to do it.

ThatGuy1295 · 01-19-2013, 03:49 PM

A chinese motor?? Its one thing if its a harbor freight genset. But putting one in your vehicle. No, horrible idea. You ask me, nothing good ever has or will come out of china with the exception of Jackie Chan. And he always drove Japanese cars and trucks.

timothy47129 · 01-19-2013, 08:36 PM

oh boy someone struck a china nerve with you again like i did in my carb thread.(lmfao)You know i had to say that.I would have to 2nd that though I might buy a carb from china but an engine prob not. I would just rebuild mine beforeI would go the china route.

B-Fake · 01-19-2013, 08:49 PM

You can rebuild for well under a grand. If you're gonna swap, I agree with what everyone else will tell you; 3RZ or 5VZ period. China hasn't caught up yet in quality so I would stay the hell away from any Chinese motor.

ThatGuy1295 · 01-20-2013, 07:52 AM

I heard they last longer if you use a mixture of paper, rice, glue, and sea-weed instead of oil.

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You can rebuild for well under a grand. If you're gonna swap, I agree with what everyone else will tell you; 3RZ or 5VZ period. China hasn't caught up yet in quality so I would stay the hell away from any Chinese motor.
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Ya and it will be a long time if they ever do. Crapy machine work and the fact that they use cheezy cast metal in place of actual steel.

01-19-2013, 05:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
schwyter Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Telford, PA Posts: 75	that engine is ˟˟˟˟ing ˟˟˟˟, why would you want it? if money is no object, and i'm assuming you already have the 22re since you're looking for a replacement 4cyl, just do a 3rz swap. buy a totalled donor truck, shouldn't cost any more than 1500 bucks __________________ 1991 Pickup DLX - 3.0, SAS, 35x12.5's..... sitting and waiting 1987 Pickup SR5 - 22RE, .020 over, 261* cam, thorley header, 2.25" exhaust, Supra AFM, late TB and plenum, 31x9.5's.... my DD 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Wife's DD 2001 Pontiac Grand Am - eaten by the crusher 1978 Pontiac Trans Am - becoming one with the earth

01-19-2013, 06:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
bone collector Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northen Indiana Posts: 761	x2 ^^^ why put a van motor in a truck that your gonna off road?? if your gonna do custom work go with a 3rz. buy the whole truck thats wrecked then scrap what you dont need. several people have done 3rz swaps and are getting mid 20 mpgs and more power then a 22re. take a serious look at it __________________ 79 - 224 4x4 4 sp--scrapped 87 - 22r 4x4 31" bf goodrich MT - sold 94 - 3vze ext cab 32" goodyear wranglers 7mge coil, 7mge afm, 2.5 inch ISR, 8 mm wires 1200lb marlin crawler HD clutch, EGR/Pair Delete 93- parts truck. hole in the block 3.0. 91 fj80 land cruiser - 4.0L inline 6, grocery getter weekend camper, 4x4 Build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f199/bone-co...thread-258959/ Proud owner of the PHAT farm ......

01-19-2013, 08:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
combatcarl Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Springfield, Orygun Posts: 651	Ew. Gross. Chinese motor? No. Just rebuild your 22RE, get another 360,000km out of it. And how long did you run it? My brother didn't swamp it, but his land rover slept upside down overnight, thing smoked for a day after, and intermittently after that. __________________ '89 22RE 5spd Longbed Deluxe 4x4... FSM'S AVAILABLE HERE STILL... http://web.archive.org/web/20080731033603/http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/

01-19-2013, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
donomite49 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: monroe nc Posts: 657	i love my 5vz, but if i was going 4 cyl i would have to go 3rz. heres a good 3rz info thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19275.0 __________________ 88 xtra cab 4x4. 22re to 3.4 auto swap. cold air intake. obx headers, downey 2.5" exh. and frame brace. 3 core radiator. hayden trans cooler. chaos idler arm. v6 front brakes, trail gear rear disc's. kelly safari tsr 31x10:50's. to be charged after suspension http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbDqM9moOIg

01-19-2013, 03:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
ThatGuy1295 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 46 50' 36.82'' N 122 19' 41.01'' W Posts: 1,572	A chinese motor?? Its one thing if its a harbor freight genset. But putting one in your vehicle. No, horrible idea. You ask me, nothing good ever has or will come out of china with the exception of Jackie Chan. And he always drove Japanese cars and trucks. __________________ . . . Wheeler 89 3.0 http://www.yotatech.com/f199/thatguy1295s-89-a-247953/ DD 01 Taco 3.4 http://www.yotatech.com/f200/thatguy.../#post51885770

01-19-2013, 09:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
vikkz Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 102	3rz or 5vz swap is what you need instead. Only problem is that a 3rz is a bit hard to find now a days, i got a buddy here that has been looking for one for a while but the junk yards that get a hold of one it already gots a waiting list for it.

01-19-2013, 02:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
kingoddball Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 34	Wouldn't I need a new gearbox as well? It's a good idea about upgrading the engine. Seems very costly to do it.

01-19-2013, 08:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
timothy47129 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 180	oh boy someone struck a china nerve with you again like i did in my carb thread.(lmfao)You know i had to say that.I would have to 2nd that though I might buy a carb from china but an engine prob not. I would just rebuild mine beforeI would go the china route.

01-19-2013, 08:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
B-Fake Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 277	You can rebuild for well under a grand. If you're gonna swap, I agree with what everyone else will tell you; 3RZ or 5VZ period. China hasn't caught up yet in quality so I would stay the hell away from any Chinese motor. __________________ '87 4Runner SR5, 22RE, 5 Speed 4" IFS lift Chevy 63" Rears Pacesetter header 2 1/4" pipe w/Flowmaster 33x12.5x15 Maxxis Bighorns Some day, maybe, time and money permitting, SAS

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