Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

Check Engine Light Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-14-2010, 08:15 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
XspazmonkeyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Check Engine Light Question

Hey Guys, I've been lurking around here for about a month or so, and finally decided to post something.

I just bought a 92 4Runner SR5 V6 5-speed 4x4 with 197,xxx miles on it (for $1200, SCORE!). Had a mechanic buddy check it out, didn't need a whole hell of a lot of work, just some new axles, clutch, and tranny mount. Everything else checked out okay. My only concern is my check engine light came on. The first time it threw codes 14 (ECU not getting signal from ingniter)and 25(air/fuel mixture running lean). I figured maybe some distributor wires got knocked loose or something, so I reseated all the cables and reset the light. About 200 miles later, CEL came back on. This time, it only threw code 25. Reset it again and it stayed off for about another 200-250 miles.

My questions are these. I know that a code 25 can be caused by a number of problems, but is there a "common" (hopefully cheap and simple) problem that would cause it. Secondly, if I reset the light, and it takes that long to come back, does that mean it's an intermittent problem, or does it take the ECU that long to register the code?

Thanks guys. I've already learned a crap-load from the forums, and am looking forward to learning a lot more!

-Tommy

Old 01-14-2010, 08:44 PM
  #2  
Donny, you're out of your element
Staff
iTrader: (23)
 
DeathCougar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 17,689
Received 54 Likes on 34 Posts
It takes that long for the computer to learn the fuel mapping. Sounds like you might have an AFM going bad.
Old 01-14-2010, 09:27 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
XspazmonkeyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I guess I should have specified that I have the 3.slow
Old 01-14-2010, 09:33 PM
  #4  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
XspazmonkeyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is AFM the same as the MAF? Please don't flame me if that's a dumb question... be gentle, I'm a noob... Thanks!
Old 01-14-2010, 09:40 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
JShaffer0525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Winston Salem
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im sorry this doesnt help at all but man is that a beautiful 4runner. i swear im moving to cali just so i can find a jewel like that. what type and size tires are those?
Old 01-15-2010, 07:59 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
abecedarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Generally speaking the AFM (or more accurately VAFM- volume[tric] air flow meter) does the same thing as a MAF sensor (mass air flow), however the two operate on very different principles with the former being mechanical and a latter being electrical/electronic with no moving parts.

Other things that could cause a lean trouble code could be the O2 sensor, the fuel pressure regulator not raising fuel pressure off idle, vacuum leaks, leaks in the intake duct between the throttle body and VAFM, exhaust leaks, fuel injector(s) clogged, coolant temperature sender... lot's of things.

First I'd check is the duct and boots between the throttle to the VAFM- any cracks there could allow air to bypass the VAFM. Then check the PCV hoses for cracks.
Old 01-15-2010, 08:36 AM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
XspazmonkeyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool. I 'll check that out. Thanks abecedarian.

jschaffer0525 - In that picture they were BFG Mud Terrains 33x10.5. They were pretty worn out when I bought it, and noisy as hell on the freeway, so I replaced them with BFG All Terrains 32x11.5. much better ride...
Old 01-15-2010, 08:54 AM
  #8  
Banned
 
2DoorRunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Brier, Washington
Posts: 3,743
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I have a screwy o2 sensor, it throws a 25 and 26 (lean and rich).
so x2 on the o2 sensor.
Old 01-20-2010, 09:02 PM
  #9  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
XspazmonkeyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Was waiting for tomorrow to get in there and check out vacuum lines and whatnot, but my check engine light turned off all on it's own. Lets hope that the problem just fixed itself (crossing fingers)

Either that, or the check engine light burned out. Either way, I'm okay... j/k
Old 01-21-2010, 09:21 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
AVDrvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi Everyone,

I'm newbie in Toyota and on this site too. I hope this is not off topic.

I've got an error code p1228! [Wastegate Failed Open (Under Pressure)] What does it mean really and what part to be changed?
Symptom is that the engine suffocates of power. 0-70km/h is about 1 minute sometimes more, sometimes less. After an hour driving the power comes back and works properly until next cold start.

My mechanic is not sure what to do, so I don't want him screw up something!
Can anyone help?



Thanks

This is a great site!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just an Avensis driver! :-(
This is my first Toyota and I really like it!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sonic concepts
Newbie Tech Section
0
07-01-2015 02:33 PM
rbravo1
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
4
06-29-2015 01:34 PM
Alex Bessinger
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
4
06-28-2015 10:05 AM
94hiluxZE
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
0
06-22-2015 10:42 AM
Mutinebullfrog
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
1
06-18-2015 01:36 PM



Quick Reply: Check Engine Light Question



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:00 AM.