burned up 85 pu with sold axle what do you think

toy89yota · 10-30-2007, 03:50 PM

So I have been looking for a while for a solid front axle and i found this truck for sale, the guy said the engine started on fire and the whole truck burned. Do you guys think that the axles are salvageable. what do you guys think? whats it worth?

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fillsrunner4 · 10-30-2007, 03:51 PM

check it out. with the heat it may have warped the axle

toy89yota · 10-30-2007, 03:53 PM

how would i know if it is warped

Tacoma750 · 10-30-2007, 03:55 PM

I woudlnt touch it..fire is serious business. Your look at ATLEAST all new seals and who knows what. That fire was HOT, just look at the truck. You know it burned for a while. Those axles were deffinatley in the fire. Ide skip it man

**waskillywabbit** · 10-30-2007, 04:14 PM

Pass.

isaac338 · 10-30-2007, 04:26 PM

who the hell tries to sell a burnt out truck?!?!

tell him to have it hauled to the scrap yard.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 10-30-2007, 04:28 PM

pass. the axles were def. messed up.

toy89yota · 10-30-2007, 04:29 PM

theres just not alot of sfa to be had in ND

YodaPala · 10-30-2007, 04:43 PM

Its scrap metal, hey at least you can get $120.00 a ton right now.

ocdropzone · 10-30-2007, 04:44 PM

I know a lot of people are telling you to pass, but I drove a '67 bug for 3 years that I bought for $25 after an engine fire. I put an another engine and transmission in it, replaced the glass and rattle canned it. The metal wouldn't hold the paint for sh** and I used a lot of caulking to get the windows to seal as the openings were warped.
Offer to haul the truck away for free and inspect it very thoroughly.
It would be quite the project to bring this one back from the dead.....basically just the shell and frame but who knows....

toy89yota · 10-30-2007, 04:49 PM

yeah i just want the axles off of it though

88-surf · 10-30-2007, 04:50 PM

^^^^Im with him ^^^^

fastkevman · 10-30-2007, 05:06 PM

I know of some excellent driveline shops near me so for myself I'd take the chance on the front axle if I could get it really cheap or free and have it thoroughly checked and/or rebuilt.
If you have the same options I say "Go For It".

Victor · 10-30-2007, 05:09 PM

The body is shot. The heat damages the metal - it will always rust easily. You may be able to salvage the axles but I would have a pro check them for straightness before I threw down any money on them.

paxil4x4 · 10-30-2007, 05:12 PM

I would have no issues buying it if the price is right. I doubt the axle is warped as there is really nothing for fire to consume for an extended period of time near the axle except the tires and the one side is not even burnt

thook · 10-30-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxil4x4

I would have no issues buying it if the price is right. I doubt the axle is warped as there is really nothing for fire to consume for an extended period of time near the axle except the tires and the one side is not even burnt

X2

Yeah, the steel the axles and housing are made of are a lot harder steel than the body. It would take a long hot, hot fire to warp 'em. The gear oil isn't as flammable as gasoline and wouldn't burn nearly as hot. Get them checked, but I'll bet they're fine....except the seals and bearings. (Just my 1 penny worth)

Luvmeye22re · 10-30-2007, 07:55 PM

I wouldn't pay more than $100 for it, in fact I just sold a running 84 runner for $250 with a totalled body, there are better ways to secure a solid axle.

**DeathCougar** · 10-30-2007, 07:57 PM

Given the amount of paint left, i'd say it didn't get TOO incredibly hot. If you can get it for free/$50 or so, DO IT. You could sell the birfs out of it if nothing else and make your $$ back, plus with what scrap is worth these days, you could just take the truck straight to scrap and make a profit on it.

fillsrunner4 · 10-30-2007, 07:58 PM

what do you mean how may it be warped. Heat heat heat... keep in mind what if you trussed the axle you have to be very carfull to not warp the axle and weld slowly. Fire could easly do that if it was a big enough fire. the truck looks ok but still im sure you can find an axle close enough to you. I would not go for it regardles of price.

The truck was on fire!

**DeathCougar** · 10-30-2007, 08:00 PM

YOu'd be suprised the number of parts that are salvagable from total burn vehicles.

fillsrunner4 · 10-30-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

YOu'd be suprised the number of parts that are salvagable from total burn vehicles.

thats true and yes you could make money off it easy...
But, would you run that axel?

thook · 10-30-2007, 08:06 PM

Not only that, a welder burns very frickin' hot...hotter than that fire was. After all, the body did not melt....which is what a welder does. Melt.

fillsrunner4 · 10-30-2007, 08:08 PM

alright then run that axle i dont care its your choice. all im saying is i wouldnt

thook · 10-30-2007, 08:16 PM

He's not even replied yet, guy. Translation....no decision he's made. Thing is, it is still being suggested he get it checked. If it checks fine, what's the problem?

Tacoma750 · 10-30-2007, 08:25 PM

THOOK...you can't compare fire to welding...Sure welding is SUPER hot,but when welding sheet metal or on an axle you do spot welds or stich welds. Its not a constant heat. You do a little hear, go to the other side and do a little...go back to the other side, so on and so forth. This keeps the metal from warping, buy only heating a small section and letting it cool before you weld near that section again. Welding/fire are diffeant all together

10-30-2007, 03:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10-30-2007, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
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10-30-2007, 03:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I woudlnt touch it..fire is serious business. Your look at ATLEAST all new seals and who knows what. That fire was HOT, just look at the truck. You know it burned for a while. Those axles were deffinatley in the fire. Ide skip it man __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,643	pass. the axles were def. messed up. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

10-30-2007, 04:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
toy89yota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 270	theres just not alot of sfa to be had in ND __________________ Iverson 89 reg cab pickup, 31x10.50 Treadwright MTR's, 22RE stock,new roll on paint job, bed liner interior, My DD http://www.yotatech.com/f116/150-paint-job-152760/ Future mods: SAS, OBA, new front, rear bumpers and sliders. 75 jeep CJ-5 only paid $.88 for it 04 jeep grand Cherokee, wifes DD 97 Chevrolet K1500 Z71

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ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,642	I know a lot of people are telling you to pass, but I drove a '67 bug for 3 years that I bought for $25 after an engine fire. I put an another engine and transmission in it, replaced the glass and rattle canned it. The metal wouldn't hold the paint for sh and I used a lot of caulking to get the windows to seal as the openings were warped. Offer to haul the truck away for free and inspect it very thoroughly. It would be quite the project to bring this one back from the dead.....basically just the shell and frame but who knows.... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS** Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

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toy89yota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 270	yeah i just want the axles off of it though __________________ Iverson 89 reg cab pickup, 31x10.50 Treadwright MTR's, 22RE stock,new roll on paint job, bed liner interior, My DD http://www.yotatech.com/f116/150-paint-job-152760/ Future mods: SAS, OBA, new front, rear bumpers and sliders. 75 jeep CJ-5 only paid $.88 for it 04 jeep grand Cherokee, wifes DD 97 Chevrolet K1500 Z71

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fastkevman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 708	I know of some excellent driveline shops near me so for myself I'd take the chance on the front axle if I could get it really cheap or free and have it thoroughly checked and/or rebuilt. If you have the same options I say "Go For It".

10-30-2007, 05:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Victor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 1,711	The body is shot. The heat damages the metal - it will always rust easily. You may be able to salvage the axles but I would have a pro check them for straightness before I threw down any money on them. __________________ "Turtle" - Green 94 4Runner Looks like one and about as fast JDM altimeter/clinometer, 2002 Sport wheels, 265/75r16 MT/R, , OME stabilizer, BJ Spacers, Cruiser Coils, removed sway bars, rattle can paint for all that peeling clearcoat! Lockright front and rear.

10-30-2007, 05:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
paxil4x4 Drama Queen/Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 816	I would have no issues buying it if the price is right. I doubt the axle is warped as there is really nothing for fire to consume for an extended period of time near the axle except the tires and the one side is not even burnt

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Luvmeye22re Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ski town Colorado Posts: 455	I wouldn't pay more than $100 for it, in fact I just sold a running 84 runner for $250 with a totalled body, there are better ways to secure a solid axle. __________________ 86 Runner with rebuilt 22re and 5 speed swap

10-30-2007, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,687	what do you mean how may it be warped. Heat heat heat... keep in mind what if you trussed the axle you have to be very carfull to not warp the axle and weld slowly. Fire could easly do that if it was a big enough fire. the truck looks ok but still im sure you can find an axle close enough to you. I would not go for it regardles of price. The truck was on fire! __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

10-30-2007, 08:08 PM	#23 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,687	alright then run that axle i dont care its your choice. all im saying is i wouldnt __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

10-30-2007, 08:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	THOOK...you can't compare fire to welding...Sure welding is SUPER hot,but when welding sheet metal or on an axle you do spot welds or stich welds. Its not a constant heat. You do a little hear, go to the other side and do a little...go back to the other side, so on and so forth. This keeps the metal from warping, buy only heating a small section and letting it cool before you weld near that section again. Welding/fire are diffeant all together __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

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