Broken Water Pump Bolt
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Broken Water Pump Bolt
Even after reading the horror stories of broken water pump bolt/posts, I stubbornly insisting on torquing those tiny little nuts to 27lbs...soooo of course I broke one...the post/bolt sticks out of the timing case (which I just reattached after doing the timing chain...). I'm wondering if I can just drill out the old post and screw another one in, or do I have to get a new timing case and redo the gasket/case job?
btw, I was obsessively careful to keep all the bolts organized (I made a map on a piece of cardboard and poked em through it) so I know that it had nothing to do with the wrong bolt in the wrong place. plus it was a nut anyway so that's not possible to get it mixed up!
so DO NOT tighten those little nuts to 27lbs...
btw, I was obsessively careful to keep all the bolts organized (I made a map on a piece of cardboard and poked em through it) so I know that it had nothing to do with the wrong bolt in the wrong place. plus it was a nut anyway so that's not possible to get it mixed up!
so DO NOT tighten those little nuts to 27lbs...
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Did you use anti-seeze? Cause if you didn't I'm going to say you learned the same lesson I did. I had to replace cover, I was lucky got a cheapo e-bay jobby. Use cuation though as I've heard horror stories about buying such parts on e-bay. check out engine builder.
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lol, u made a map?
on my water pump, there were like 3 screws, 3 nuts, and a long screw.
if you snapped a screw and its not flush, either use vice grips or pliers to pull it out, or cut the top of the remaining piece with a little slash to fit a flatblade screwdriver. If its flush...you could try using a screw extractor, but i would recommend against it, as i snapped my Dewalt screw extractor in the screw....
on my water pump, there were like 3 screws, 3 nuts, and a long screw.
if you snapped a screw and its not flush, either use vice grips or pliers to pull it out, or cut the top of the remaining piece with a little slash to fit a flatblade screwdriver. If its flush...you could try using a screw extractor, but i would recommend against it, as i snapped my Dewalt screw extractor in the screw....
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I'm still running minus one bolt in mine... have been for over a year now... no leaks...
I know, not good, and I'm not suppose to, I'm just say'n
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plus I was in a tight spot, and it absolutely HAD to get done, then!
I know, not good, and I'm not suppose to, I'm just say'n
lol
plus I was in a tight spot, and it absolutely HAD to get done, then!
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I didn't use anti sieze, but the part that broke was already attached. it's a post that comes out of the timing case...I'm just not sure if it's press fit or if it is threaded in on that end too (like the posts are that hold the fan on). if they are threaded, then I can flatten the sides or cut a slice in the end and unscrew the post, put a new one in and call it good. otherwise i have to take of my timing case, buy a new one plus gaskets, scrape scrape scrape, etc...so I am trying to avoid that.
or maybe i can drill it out and heli coil??
I'm taking a break today and going skiing. it just dumped 15" last night.
and about the map...it was for all the timing case bolts too...just because some of them are different lengths!
thanks for all the replies!
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or maybe i can drill it out and heli coil??
I'm taking a break today and going skiing. it just dumped 15" last night.
and about the map...it was for all the timing case bolts too...just because some of them are different lengths!
thanks for all the replies!
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If its what I did and what this sounds like. Theres no notching it, vise grips, or easy outs, guess how I know. There no pressed in steel post in the Aluminum timing chain cover, is a stud or two. I'm kinda confused how you got to where your at with the broken.
Anytime you use steel bolts in Aluminum use anti-seize the name says why. I broke a bolt placing it in, when the resistance told me something was wrong I tried to back it out and it froze nada mas. Vise grips no, center drilled the bolt after cutting off. The hardened steel easy out broke too. Used tons of penetrating oil. I did feel comfortable leaving it as was so I replace cover.
If its a stud, put two nuts on, tighten them against each other they'll let you take it out. like a bolt.
Good luck, and gossshhh wish I could ski.
Anytime you use steel bolts in Aluminum use anti-seize the name says why. I broke a bolt placing it in, when the resistance told me something was wrong I tried to back it out and it froze nada mas. Vise grips no, center drilled the bolt after cutting off. The hardened steel easy out broke too. Used tons of penetrating oil. I did feel comfortable leaving it as was so I replace cover.
If its a stud, put two nuts on, tighten them against each other they'll let you take it out. like a bolt.
Good luck, and gossshhh wish I could ski.
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Yeah , I've never seen A card board bolt map .. ,but I guess it's a good way to keep track of everthing . If you still have trouble getting the bolt out , Post a picture if you can It always help to see the problem . . You probably have to drill A hole in it and use one of those ,"easy outs" like Muddpigg stated above.
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If its what I did and what this sounds like. Theres no notching it, vise grips, or easy outs, guess how I know. There no pressed in steel post in the Aluminum timing chain cover, is a stud or two. I'm kinda confused how you got to where your at with the broken.
Anytime you use steel bolts in Aluminum use anti-seize the name says why. I broke a bolt placing it in, when the resistance told me something was wrong I tried to back it out and it froze nada mas. Vise grips no, center drilled the bolt after cutting off. The hardened steel easy out broke too. Used tons of penetrating oil. I did feel comfortable leaving it as was so I replace cover.
If its a stud, put two nuts on, tighten them against each other they'll let you take it out. like a bolt.
Good luck, and gossshhh wish I could ski.
Anytime you use steel bolts in Aluminum use anti-seize the name says why. I broke a bolt placing it in, when the resistance told me something was wrong I tried to back it out and it froze nada mas. Vise grips no, center drilled the bolt after cutting off. The hardened steel easy out broke too. Used tons of penetrating oil. I did feel comfortable leaving it as was so I replace cover.
If its a stud, put two nuts on, tighten them against each other they'll let you take it out. like a bolt.
Good luck, and gossshhh wish I could ski.
Edit... Jk, that didn't work for me
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