Blown Headgasket- It CAN happen to you

stormin94 · 06-12-2009, 07:53 PM

It can happen to you just like it happened to me. I've somehow managed to blow the headgasket on my 4runner. It chugs, and goes through coolant, and even has coolant in the oil. This may have been brought on by a failing water pump, which I noticed was leaking a day before the HG blew. I added, and checked the coolant, and made sure the pump was working, and it was. But I guess it was just time for the HG to fail. My temp guage doesn't work reliably, so I had no real way of knowing if the engine was running hot, other than the fact that I would be able to smell a hot engine, which I didn't smell.

For now, I'm driving a 1990 Suburban, which is very economical (13MPG lol ), but is quite comfortable. I am also in the process of replacing the head gasket on my 4Runner.

On a side note, I know I haven't been around much in a while, so I guess my 4Runner gave me an excuse to get on here again.

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Tubbyfatty · 06-12-2009, 07:57 PM

Wow, that suck man. Were you easy on her?

Im trying to keep mine from blowing, i never go over 2500, except when in 5th. Good thing you have a vehical to drive while its down.

stormin94 · 06-12-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubbyfatty

Wow, that suck man. Were you easy on her?

Im trying to keep mine from blowing, i never go over 2500, except when in 5th. Good thing you have a vehical to drive while its down.

I was easy on her. At least I think so. I never met the rev limiter, but I have to drive on hills, so keeping it under 2500 isn't practical for me. I rarely ever go above 4000.

toyota4x4907 · 06-12-2009, 08:06 PM

Psht. Newbs. Shoulda bought a 22re

kinda.

I like me some 5K rpm in muh 22res

toylocost · 06-12-2009, 08:18 PM

I redline my 22re 1st through 3rd everyday. Still get 22mpg. But I bought my 4runner with a blown gead gasket so hopefully it wont happen to me. lol

Tubbyfatty · 06-12-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stormin94

I was easy on her. At least I think so. I never met the rev limiter, but I have to drive on hills, so keeping it under 2500 isn't practical for me. I rarely ever go above 4000.

Well i just mean while shifting.

70mph = 3k, but i never go over that, only if i have to.

skyman · 06-12-2009, 09:19 PM

The 3vz-e is known for blowing head gaskets. There was even a free dealer replacement offered a while back. I already blew two, but I tend to use the gas pedal more like an on-off switch.

turborich · 06-12-2009, 09:22 PM

22re or 3vze?

stormin94 · 06-13-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by turborich

22re or 3vze?

3vze. The recall has been done. This one's on me.

TNRabbit · 06-13-2009, 03:58 AM

I drove mine like it was rented (5k rpm all the time) for over 120,000 miles (on top of the 92k it had on it when I bought it in 2000) & never had an issue UNTIL I overheated it. It ran great during that time.

After I had the dealer install a timing belt back in 2003, it never ran the same again...

AuRunner93 · 06-13-2009, 03:11 PM

So I joined the blown head gasket club last week and I need some expert advice. I built the engine (3vze) about 2 years and 15,000 miles ago. The heads had to have a bunch of metal shaved off to get them back true and smooth, so the compression in each cylinder is now up around 170 psi. I'm thinking that this is what caused the gasket to blow. So, I need to find out if anyone makes a reinforced head gasket for the 3vze engine that can handle the higher compression. Any suggestions? Thanks.

annoyingrob · 06-13-2009, 03:15 PM

I usually just throw metal head gaskets on whenever I di a HG job. Kind of hard to blow those

In all seriousness though, my 83 22R-E (Yes, early EFI motor. Was in a Celica) blew the head gasket with about 300k km on it (180k mi). The head bolt stretched.

Dirt Driver · 06-13-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stormin94

It can happen to you just like it happened to me. I've somehow managed to blow the headgasket on my 4runner.

3VZE statistics seem to indicate that it isn't so much that it can happen, but more like it will happen.

TNRabbit · 06-13-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AuRunner93

So I joined the blown head gasket club last week and I need some expert advice. I built the engine (3vze) about 2 years and 15,000 miles ago. The heads had to have a bunch of metal shaved off to get them back true and smooth, so the compression in each cylinder is now up around 170 psi. I'm thinking that this is what caused the gasket to blow. So, I need to find out if anyone makes a reinforced head gasket for the 3vze engine that can handle the higher compression. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Stock on the 3vze is 173 psi, mine is running 210 psi, so I wouldn't call your 170 psi "high"....

You want Multi-Layer Steel (MLS) head gaskets, but that will require special surfacing of the heads & block...

Jay351 · 06-13-2009, 11:42 PM

Aww man!! Thats lame..

damn v6, can't take an overheating

I have had great luck so far, I keep everything in terms of cooling and lubrication in tip top shape. She sees 5,000rpm+ weekly and asks for more

*knock on wood!*

algranger · 06-14-2009, 12:41 AM

Bad temp gauge

That would drive me nuts not knowing whats going on under there

Jay351 · 06-14-2009, 12:42 AM

Well...... its not like we had very accurate temp gauges in the first place.....

algranger · 06-14-2009, 12:49 AM

Thats right but i can see when its overheating and kill it.

yotarover · 06-14-2009, 02:20 AM

in a hurry but the Head gasket set for Toyota 2.4L, 22R engine wont work for the 22re (both are 88-89) flame me for not searching the fourms i've been doing that all night with everything else i jsut found a cheaper place to buy my parts from mizumoauto.com

yotarover · 06-14-2009, 02:21 AM

i meant will it work for the 22re sorry 200 or less for parts and the head job and new timing chain work around 150 at a local old school shop

yotarover · 06-14-2009, 02:31 AM

i must be going through withdraws i miss my truck to much seeing it sit there, cant even think straight all i had to do was google and search I NEED MY TRUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-14-2009, 06:48 AM

stormin, i cant believe it actually gave up the ghost. i thought urs was gonna be one to have no problems... oh well cant win em all. so what u gonna do with it? rebuild the 3.0? or swap in a 3.4....

and rover, are you trying to spam or something? 3 posts within half an hour....

AuRunner93 · 06-17-2009, 05:43 PM

Yeah, you're right TNRabbit. I got my lines crossed in my manual and saw the 142psi minimum as the standard. With the compression in the good cylinders basically normal, what's my most logical conclusion? This is now the 3rd HG to blow on this engine...the original, the recall, and now this one. What could cause chronic HG problems?

stormin94 · 06-17-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

stormin, i cant believe it actually gave up the ghost. i thought urs was gonna be one to have no problems... oh well cant win em all. so what u gonna do with it? rebuild the 3.0? or swap in a 3.4....

Yeah, It sucks, but at least it didn't leave me stranded somewhere. I'm having the headgasket done as we speak. It shouldn't need a rebuild, and I'm lacking the funds to do a swap.

screech · 06-28-2009, 04:53 PM

Along the lines of head gaskets. Anyone changed one then during the inital run up blew it out!? yeah happened to me tonight. Also happened on my 22rte but that was because I followed haynes manual for the part of putting sealent on the block. Most retarded step I have ever seen in a manual.
I know the causes of head gaskets going on the 22re, bolts stretch, over heat. but seriously with all new parts! never even heard of a hg blowing so fast!

06-12-2009, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tubbyfatty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 1,559	Wow, that suck man. Were you easy on her? Im trying to keep mine from blowing, i never go over 2500, except when in 5th. Good thing you have a vehical to drive while its down. __________________ 94 4runner / SR5 / 3vz-e / 5spd / 4x4 (duh) / Mudcat EXT 30x 9.5R15s / Marlin Crawler HD Clutch / ISR / Hella 700FFs 100w bulbs / 2 10'' JBL subs / ported sub box / kicker mono amp / Pioneer DEH-P490IB / sitting 1-1.5'' below factory, thanks butt sag...

06-12-2009, 08:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
toyota4x4907 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 2,271	Psht. Newbs. Shoulda bought a 22re kinda. I like me some 5K rpm in muh 22res __________________ '95 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|130K miles\|ISR\| 2" BL\| 31x10.5 \|two 170mm LightForce\|anti-sway bars removed f/r\|Warn manual hubs\|ADD bypassed\|Diff breather extensions\|XLPerformance muffler '88 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|206K miles\|Sold '93 single cab\|22re\|5spd\|150K miles\|Sold\| Pro IFS

06-12-2009, 08:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
toylocost Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Yotatech, because Pirate is too expensive. Posts: 1,419	I redline my 22re 1st through 3rd everyday. Still get 22mpg. But I bought my 4runner with a blown gead gasket so hopefully it wont happen to me. lol __________________ 1982 2wd Pickup - Custom Interior - Pioneer 8" subs 1990 4runner - Blown Head Gasket Mod (fixed!) - Cruiser Coils - BJ Spacers - Bed Lined Fenders - CB/PA - Alpine HU - H4 Headlights - 2 15s and a Rockford amp. 1996 Camry - 400,000 miles on original engine/transmission. HELL YES!!! All it takes is a quart of oil with every tank of gas. Project: scratch building a modernized Lotus 7 replica using a 22-re Celica drivetrain

06-13-2009, 03:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
annoyingrob Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 637	I usually just throw metal head gaskets on whenever I di a HG job. Kind of hard to blow those In all seriousness though, my 83 22R-E (Yes, early EFI motor. Was in a Celica) blew the head gasket with about 300k km on it (180k mi). The head bolt stretched. __________________ 86 SR5 Turbo pickup Fiberglass bed, Fiberglass Fenders. 91 1.5JZ GT40 Supra. 77 Celica Liftback. (WTB: 20R Carb!)

06-13-2009, 11:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,540	Aww man!! Thats lame.. damn v6, can't take an overheating I have had great luck so far, I keep everything in terms of cooling and lubrication in tip top shape. She sees 5,000rpm+ weekly and asks for more knock on wood! __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 246,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

06-12-2009, 09:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
skyman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	The 3vz-e is known for blowing head gaskets. There was even a free dealer replacement offered a while back. I already blew two, but I tend to use the gas pedal more like an on-off switch.

06-12-2009, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
turborich Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV. Posts: 281	22re or 3vze?

06-13-2009, 03:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
AuRunner93 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2	So I joined the blown head gasket club last week and I need some expert advice. I built the engine (3vze) about 2 years and 15,000 miles ago. The heads had to have a bunch of metal shaved off to get them back true and smooth, so the compression in each cylinder is now up around 170 psi. I'm thinking that this is what caused the gasket to blow. So, I need to find out if anyone makes a reinforced head gasket for the 3vze engine that can handle the higher compression. Any suggestions? Thanks.

06-14-2009, 12:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
algranger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here in the PNW Posts: 3,253	Bad temp gauge That would drive me nuts not knowing whats going on under there __________________ . . . I said lie, for me lying under a process tree . . . .

06-14-2009, 12:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,540	Well...... its not like we had very accurate temp gauges in the first place..... __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 246,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

06-14-2009, 12:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
algranger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here in the PNW Posts: 3,253	Thats right but i can see when its overheating and kill it. __________________ . . . I said lie, for me lying under a process tree . . . .

06-14-2009, 02:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
yotarover Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Forest City Nc Posts: 48	in a hurry but the Head gasket set for Toyota 2.4L, 22R engine wont work for the 22re (both are 88-89) flame me for not searching the fourms i've been doing that all night with everything else i jsut found a cheaper place to buy my parts from mizumoauto.com

06-14-2009, 02:21 AM	#20 (permalink)
yotarover Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Forest City Nc Posts: 48	i meant will it work for the 22re sorry 200 or less for parts and the head job and new timing chain work around 150 at a local old school shop

06-14-2009, 02:31 AM	#21 (permalink)
yotarover Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Forest City Nc Posts: 48	i must be going through withdraws i miss my truck to much seeing it sit there, cant even think straight all i had to do was google and search I NEED MY TRUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

06-14-2009, 06:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,614	stormin, i cant believe it actually gave up the ghost. i thought urs was gonna be one to have no problems... oh well cant win em all. so what u gonna do with it? rebuild the 3.0? or swap in a 3.4.... and rover, are you trying to spam or something? 3 posts within half an hour.... __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

06-17-2009, 05:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
AuRunner93 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2	Yeah, you're right TNRabbit. I got my lines crossed in my manual and saw the 142psi minimum as the standard. With the compression in the good cylinders basically normal, what's my most logical conclusion? This is now the 3rd HG to blow on this engine...the original, the recall, and now this one. What could cause chronic HG problems?

06-28-2009, 04:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
screech Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 58	Along the lines of head gaskets. Anyone changed one then during the inital run up blew it out!? yeah happened to me tonight. Also happened on my 22rte but that was because I followed haynes manual for the part of putting sealent on the block. Most retarded step I have ever seen in a manual. I know the causes of head gaskets going on the 22re, bolts stretch, over heat. but seriously with all new parts! never even heard of a hg blowing so fast! __________________ evo, turbo 4runner, f150, cobra, n/a 4runner, 69 stang. "I am not a slacker, I am a deligater."

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