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Old 11-29-2010, 08:39 AM
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Question blown 22re/22rte swap

driving my 87 4runner (22re) 2 days ago it lost all power and wouldnt idle. i limped to my friends house with it and it started pouring bluish smoke out the exhaust and making a click when giving it throttle while the clutch was out. im thinking i blew a head gasket. hopefully thats it but im not sure. i may be able to trade my dirtbike for an 86 22rte. would this bolt up to my w56 trans no problem? i recently did a marlin crawler heavy duty clutch kit so i dont think the clutch will be a problem. would it even be worth it to get the 22rte since i dont actually know if it will run? it comes with everything like the ecu harness ps pump alternator starter etc.

any advice on the motor swap or on what happened to my motor would be appreciated as i am driving my brothers audi around right now and i feel like a tool in it.
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blueish smoke is oil. could be head gasket could be rings, but with a click (do you mean maybe a tap or a knock?) I would lean towards a ring and that tap or click that you describe being a piston slap sound. Only way to tell is to do a compression and leakdown check.

could be a few other things as well. But without seeing or hearing what your describing then.....

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yea, i could smell the oil burning. it could definitly be a knock, i just didnt wanna say it haha. i could only hear it when the clutch was out though. when i depressed the clutch or put it in neutral and revved it a bit it didnt make it.
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so basically saying you got a knock when the engine is under load, typical of a piston slap or slight rod knock. Don't think it's a rod knock though since it's burning oil.

I've been wrong before, but in either case, I think the motor would have to come apart. Personally I would stay away from the rte. But that's just me.

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ahh, i figured it had something to do with it being under load but i didnt know that would make the piston slap louder. thanks for the help. if you know anyone one here whos dropped the 22-rte in place of the 22-re send them my way. i could use some advice.
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heh don't know of any, but, if your close enough in NY I might be able to help ya yank the motor.
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where are you at? i have a good friend who ive done chevy motors with and hed probly give me a hand pulling it and either rebiulding or dropping in the ew one depending on what i decide to do. he doesnt know as much about toyotas/4cylinders and honestly i dont either so if you have any experience with troubleshooting or fine tuning these engines which im sure i'll have to do once i get it in thats where i could use some help
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ahh, your in wilkes barre didnt see that. im near poughkeepsie. thats pretty far. thanks for the offer though
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heh, I know where Poughkeepsie is, it's about 3 and a half hours from me, ex wife lives in Hopewell Jct. I had to go to Poughkeepsie for my child support hearings haha.
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An RTE is just a de-compressed RE with different electronics and computers.

It has a junk stock turbo, the CT20, that you're immediately better off just throwing in the junk pile.

You have NO idea what you're in for.

It's not particularly even a good engine.
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haha, i live a couple of miles from hopewell. still cant decide what i wanna do. i might just sell the dirtbike so i can rebuild the 22-re and do some aftermarket work to it. the turbo motor would be cool but i dont really wanna deal with it. where can i get a good rebuild kit? i'll probly do a cam too. any advice there?
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engnbldr kit seems to be what everyone recomends. how are the camshafts that he sells?
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I got the 268 no complaints so far with mine.
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how much of a difference did it make?
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Originally Posted by Tamadrmr26
how much of a difference did it make?
couldn't say it was done during a full rebuild.
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Originally Posted by Tamadrmr26
engnbldr kit seems to be what everyone recomends. how are the camshafts that he sells?
Whoa there... Cams don't work too well with EFI's.

Unless its specifically a cam for EFI.

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I got the 268 no complaints so far with mine.
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Whoa there... Cams don't work too well with EFI's.

Unless its specifically a cam for EFI.
EB advertises his cams for both EFI and carb'd doesn't he?
I know the stock grinds won't work well with each other though.
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yea the EB cams are good with carb or EFI motors, i want the 261, but i gotta save up! lol
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this is because the higher the overlap the lower the vacuum tends to become correct? Also typically what causes a loping idle.

kinda like these beasts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--MM4uUrfSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93H00gilGSs
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
EB advertises his cams for both EFI and carb'd doesn't he?
I know the stock grinds won't work well with each other though.

Not that I looked, but all I saw was "85-95".

Coincidentally the deck heights, not specifically EFI.


And good posting on the vids. If you can live with that lope, more power to ya


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