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Old 10-27-2008, 02:26 PM
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93 Axle in a 87 Pickup?

I need a new rear axle for my 87. I bought a 85 thinking it would work, but didn't do my research. I know the pumpkin is interchangeable but they don't look the same so I'm not sure if they are in my case (looks smaller but haven't measured it). Also when I hooked up the 85 the drive shaft wouldnt reach the third member.

Somone near me is selling a 93 4runner axle assembley with only 107k miles for $100. Thats what I paid for the 85, so I would like to just use that but getting one with lower miles and newer is a big plus.

So, will the 85 work or should I just go with the 93?
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what broke on ur original one?


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I shifted into reverse last year and it started making this horrible clanking sound. It sounds like theres a midget with a hammer banging on the underside of the truck. When you spin the tires you can hear the "clank clank clank" come from the axle.
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not sure how much experience you've had with a Toyota rear end; have you ever removed the 3rd member (pumpkin, if you will) from the axle housing?

you might be able to get away with just replacing the 3rd member, that way you don't even have to remove the axle from the truck.

it's just a matter of jacking the truck up, taking the tires off, removing 4 bolts on each side and some brake lines, then the axle shafts slide out of the axle housing, then you just remove the drive shaft from the 3rd member, take off all the bols around it holding it to the axle housing, and the hole thing falls off, and all the gears to the differential are part of the assymbely.



therefore, it's pretty simple to replace the diff gears; no fumbeling around with gears and lashing and shims and all that mess...

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Well I have already taken out the axle. The too small one is in the truck right now.
That picture you posted, is that the part I need to replace? Its just the front casing, not the rear too?
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between an 85 and 87 model, they should be interchangable assuming they are both 2wd or 4wd. Now if these 2 trucks have transmission differences (one's an auto and one's a manual), then you may have different gear ratios, which would be a problem when you lock it into 4wd; different gear ratios in front and rear diffs make trasfer cases go boom...

4cyl and v6 models will have slightly different 3rd's as well...

I'm by far an expert on Toyota rear ends, but I've done my research. If in doubt, here's an amazing site for figuring out what you have...

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/

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yes that is what you need to replace you could probally ind it in your local scrap yards or just take yours to get it fixed
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Yep, looks like what Ive got will work.

Thanks guys.
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so what do you have?

I'm nosey, I like to know these things...
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Looks like this:

"All pre-'95 4-cylinder 4wd mini-trucks & 4Runners use the Toyota 8" 2-pinion differential front and rear (except turbo models). This is known as the "4cyl diff." This diff is by far the most common diff in older Toyotas.
Ten 10mm ring gear bolts, 27 spline pinion shaft.
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immagine that, the most common one, lol

no seriously, good job man!

are you just going to use the entire 85 assembly, or just swap the 3rds out?
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Im just going to swap out the thirds. The shafts are too narrow by about 2 inches on the 85.
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yeah, the rear axle pre-86 is narrower than 86 up. 86-up are wider to compensate for IFS widening the front track.
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wider is better

haha, remember that old pontiac commercial
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
wider is better

haha, remember that old pontiac commercial
sort of.
I think I do, but I'm scared you are gonna go into a rosie o'donnell moment.
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
sort of.
I think I do, but I'm scared you are gonna go into a rosie o'donnell moment.
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hehehe.

seriously though... wasn't that for the supercharged Bonneville GTP whatever car thing they had in the late 90's?
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
hehehe.

seriously though... wasn't that for the supercharged Bonneville GTP whatever car thing they had in the late 90's?
yeah, were they supposidly widened the wheel-stance apart and said it gave better traction...

after those damn commercials started playing, all that would run through my head every 10 minutes was the freeking commercial announcer's person's voice, "Wider is Better"

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yeah, were they supposidly widened the wheel-stance apart and said it gave better traction...

after those damn commercials started playing, all that would run through my head every 10 minutes was the freeking commercial announcer's person's voice, "Wider is Better"
so where are your 0 backspaced wheels and 4" wheel spacers?
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
so where are your 0 backspaced wheels and 4" wheel spacers?
I am not influenced by trivial marketing strageties



although I did give in and buy one of those wire quick-strip thingy's that one guy sells on TV; ya know, the guys that's always really energetic and sells that mighty putty crap and everything else... I forget his name at the moment...


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