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Old 05-26-2011, 07:40 PM
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92 4runner auto to manual swap....

yeeeah by the way it's a auto to manual....


So I got everything else done on this thing.

but for some reason can't get it to shift into gear....

no air in line and all new parts. I have taken things on and off again enough to make it quick and easy.

I ended up making a longer slave cylinder shaft just to see wtf is going on and it will shift but just not enough clutch pressure to grab tight. (to short, to long)

so im guessing my master isnt pushing the slave all the way, but.

I thought it was only supposed to move the clutch fork 1 inch and it does.

so what other things could be wrong?


when I use the extended push rod on the slave cylinder it barely lifts the clutch at the bottom of the stroke.

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so you can get it into gear but it wont go anywhere? or you cant get it into gear cuz the clutch isnt disengaging? maybe set the clutch pedal freeplay to spec and measure your clutch pedal stroke...might help..
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clutch will not disengage at normal oem position

the only way I can get it to disengage is to put in a 3/4 inch longer slave cylinder extension
then it releases at the very end of the pedal stroke.

but then it slips when driven like that...
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nobody?

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I know I screed up th title but, come people think?

what else could be cause the issue?
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it sounds like u dont have all the air out of the peddle or have the master adjusted right. when u push on the peddle how far down before the slave starts to move? it might not be building up enough pressure to move the fork.
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is the push rod at the pedal adjusted properly? there's a free play spec... check and make sure that's good, if it is then the issue is the hydraulic system somewhere
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Just curious what year vehicle and is the transmission out of the same year??

What kind of clutch kit did you go with?? For what year vehicle??

I have seen all kinds of screw ups wrong throw out bearing!! even so far as the whole clutch kit being wrong in the correct box!!

There are different slave cylinders out there.

I think this is more mechanical then hydraulic .

Good Luck!!
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Just curious what year vehicle and is the transmission out of the same year??

What kind of clutch kit did you go with?? For what year vehicle??

I have seen all kinds of screw ups wrong throw out bearing!! even so far as the whole clutch kit being wrong in the correct box!!

There are different slave cylinders out there.

I think this is more mechanical then hydraulic .

Good Luck!!
yeah the first clutch kit was the wrong one they gave me then another shop gave me the wrong master cylinder

ill check the slave cylinder again and see if its the right one

the tranny is from a 92, my 4runner is a 92
the clutch has been adj and readjusted
no air in the line
slave cylinder moves after 1/4 pedal stroke
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was the master cylinder bench bled?
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nope

but I did crack the fitting loose a bit just to check for air

I ran a hose from the slave to the master and pumped it with clear fluid no air for a long time

ill pull off the master tonight bench bleed it and throw it back on (doubt thats the problem but hey why not)
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Originally Posted by Aaron d
slave cylinder moves after 1/4 pedal stroke
As 'The MAN' suggested, adjust your pedal freeplay.
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Originally Posted by Aaron d
nope

but I did crack the fitting loose a bit just to check for air

I ran a hose from the slave to the master and pumped it with clear fluid no air for a long time

ill pull off the master tonight bench bleed it and throw it back on (doubt thats the problem but hey why not)
Get someone to pump the pedal and you bleed the slave. Do not run a hose back to the master.
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Originally Posted by vital22re
Get someone to pump the pedal and you bleed the slave. Do not run a hose back to the master.

I know I don't need to run a hose but it saves fluid and does a good job in the bleeding process.

Im going to pull the slave and get it double checked

so far everything the parts house has given me has been wrong and has had to be returned multiple times.... the slave is the last thing that hasn't been replaced yet.



thanks for the help.
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have you checked to make sure your pedal bracket isnt cracked, if it is it will work but not all the way and wont allow the clutch to disengage. see if you can pull the pedal side to side, if you can you need to weld er up or get a new one. happened to me and withh the pedal rod adjusted and a longer rod on the slave it still wouldnt disengage and drobve me nuts trying to figure out what was wrong when everything apeared to be normal
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well Ive checked it the best I can underneath the console

but I may have to pull it to get a better look

I didnt know about the crack problems till after I put it in so I didnt take a very good look

I'll check it out.

I hope I can just burn over a crack and get this thing rolling again...

thanks
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sometimes its just weak and hasnt cracked yet but will flex enough to not allow full stroke of tyhe master. if you do weld it, when i did mine i plated it and added an internal truss to avoid having to re do it in the future. good luck keep us posted. if there is ANY flex in that pedal take it out and weld er up
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yup theres flex

alot more than I thought...

well headed to Oregon today will pull it out and weld it up sunday.

will post up soon as i get it done
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when you pull it out look at the corner where the stud is that goes through the fire wall that is usually the culprit
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will do

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