91 toyota pick up leans to passenger side

justin.boone21 · 11-06-2009, 08:45 PM

my 91 toyota pick up leans to the right side more than usual. i know that there is a displacement for a driver about 185 lbs but its ridiculous. i replaced all the shocks and i think its the leaf springs. is therer somthing i can do to fix it myself?

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annoyingrob · 11-07-2009, 01:54 AM

Mine leans to the driver's. Maybe we can get together, and level out our trucks

The springs wear unevenly, usually due to things like a whold load of gas weighing one side down for 18 years. A new set of springs usually fixes it.

aerocorey · 11-07-2009, 05:05 AM

Tighten the torsion bar adjustment on the low side. My truck leaned to the left when I bought it. Adjusted the torsion bars to level it out, now it's good. Be warned, running up one side brings the other side up just a little too. You've gotta adjust, then drive it a bet to let it settle. Measure. Bang head. Re-adjust. Repeat as nessecary.

justin.boone21 · 11-07-2009, 01:14 PM

haha yeah fat chicks right... where are the torsion bars?? i dont really know alot about my truck...first time toyota.

justin.boone21 · 11-07-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aerocorey

Tighten the torsion bar adjustment on the low side. My truck leaned to the left when I bought it. Adjusted the torsion bars to level it out, now it's good. Be warned, running up one side brings the other side up just a little too. You've gotta adjust, then drive it a bet to let it settle. Measure. Bang head. Re-adjust. Repeat as nessecary.

i dont know much about it but is that in the front or rear of vehicle? can i do that with out a jack or do i need to take it to a shop? can i do it myself with the truck on the ground

peapicker · 11-07-2009, 01:48 PM

ok ok! If you look about 3 feet behind the front tires inside the frame rails you will see an adjustment bolt on the end of your torsion bar. there is one on each side. tighten to raise, loosen to lower. jacking the truck up would make them turn easier.

PCE91V64x4 · 11-07-2009, 02:17 PM

Any idea how much adjustment you get for each turn? To level it out are we talking about 1/2 turn or 15 turns? And I would guess there is also the option of loosening the high side to lower it?

peapicker · 11-07-2009, 05:43 PM

no way to tell, just play with it.

justin.boone21 · 11-07-2009, 05:58 PM

i dont know but i just tightened it till it was screeching and now its level! lol its awesome.

aerocorey · 11-08-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by justin.boone21

i dont know but i just tightened it till it was screeching and now its level! lol its awesome.

Glad it worked for you. When I leveled mine I realized that an idiot must have had it apart at some point because I had to tighten the left side until the bolt was out of threads and the right side was sitting up at like a 45* angle. I got the screeching out of the left side when I was finishing it up. I went back to it a few weeks later to take the left side apart and re-align the bellcrank (or whetever you want to call it...I'm an aircraft mechanic, it's a bellcrank to me) and the bolt broke. It's even now, but it's held together by an 8" long length of 12mm threaded rod, like 8 nuts, and about 6 washers. Looks like Dr Seuss did it.

91_TOYOTA_4x4 · 11-08-2009, 06:40 PM

man my 91 leans to the right too. its not bad by myself but once i get a passenger its down bad lol. i mean to crank my torsion bar but have never done it and dont have a torque wrench. you guys have any tips to not breaking anything when i tighten mine?

peow130 · 11-08-2009, 06:49 PM

PB blaster..
You don't need a torque wrench to tighten it..
Just tighten (or loosen) and check your ride height.
1-2 turns won't raise it an inch.. the threads are VERY fine, so you'll have to turn it ALOT.

boxer.fan · 11-08-2009, 08:11 PM

Can anyone provide a pic of what the nuts and bolt look like at this torsion bar? Possibly a before and after pic.

justin.boone21 · 11-08-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxer.fan

Can anyone provide a pic of what the nuts and bolt look like at this torsion bar? Possibly a before and after pic.

this is what mine looks like, its on the inside of the frame but i have a 91 toyota.

justin.boone21 · 11-08-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by justin.boone21

this is what mine looks like, its on the inside of the frame but i have a 91 toyota.

that was taken from a rear looking front angle.

boxer.fan · 11-11-2009, 05:52 PM

OK I have located this part, but do I need to hold to nut at the top while I turn the bottum with the ratchet or should I loosen the nuts then turn? Which way do I need to turn this bolt to raise this side of the truck?

peow130 · 11-11-2009, 06:18 PM

righty tighty lefty loosey...
tighter will raise it, looser will lower it..
i put a big pipe wrench on the bolts..
i couldn't get the locking bolt loose so i just muscled both of them tighter.

justin.boone21 · 11-11-2009, 10:02 PM

I just tightened on the bottom one caue i could get to it, and it worked so you dont need to hold the top one. Just tighten the side that leans to raise it.

peow130 · 11-11-2009, 10:12 PM

Well, mine wasn't seized to the bracket that holds it on so i actually had to hold it :/

you should have checked to see if they actually just tightened one side, because you probably could have lowered the too-high side, too.

desertcamper67 · 11-12-2009, 01:52 AM

Those adjusting bolts can break. Tightening the nut side is way easier on that bolt AND you don't have to hold anything.
You will need to have it aligned after you adjust the height.

desertcamper67 · 11-12-2009, 02:10 AM

This post shows where its at and how easily they can break. Just adjust the nut side and this won't happen.
http://www.yotatech.com/f116/help-to.../#post51244231
And don't forget the alignment.

boxer.fan · 11-14-2009, 07:22 AM

Man I havent been able to access the site for a day or so. Everyone else get in ok?
Anyhow, I look at the drivers side torsion bar adjustment side, this is the side that is higher, and the top of the bolt is almost touching the body. The passenger side, which is the lower, still has a ways to reach the body from underneath. Now should I just lower the high side or raise the lower side? If I raise the lower side do I compromise right quality and possibly safety with too much tension on the torsion? Or is it safe?
thanks, this is something I will get on today.

aerocorey · 11-14-2009, 10:55 AM

Tightening that bolt doesn't actually screw it in towards the cab or change the length of the bolt, it pulls the torsion bar down. With my truck the side that needed to be tightened was already pulled down farther than the side that was too high. I ended up having to take it apart to where I could slip the adjusting bellcrank thingie off of the back end of the torsion bar and rotate it a few splines. boxer.fan, you can't really go wrong with yours. If you want it to sit higher, raise the low side. If you want it to sit lower, lower the high side. It depends on how you want your truck to sit. I can tell you that it hasn't raised itself up any since it rolled off of the assembly line, so if you're looking to return it to stock you need to go up.

Lemme say this too...make sure you guys have your trucks on a jackstand when you are adjusting them. I broke my bolt. Realize that if the bolt breaks when the truck is on the ground it will fall down onto the bump stop. I'll say that again...if the bolt breaks and you don't have the truck on a jack it is going to fall.

91_TOYOTA_4x4 · 11-15-2009, 05:41 PM

i tighten mine and my truck drives way better, its level and taller. only think i cant figure out is that with just me driving its level but once i get a passenger its still lower on the pass side. i cant win lol screw torsion bars i cant wait for SAS.

desertcamper67 · 11-15-2009, 07:42 PM

11-07-2009, 01:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
annoyingrob Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 649	Mine leans to the driver's. Maybe we can get together, and level out our trucks The springs wear unevenly, usually due to things like a whold load of gas weighing one side down for 18 years. A new set of springs usually fixes it. __________________ 86 SR5 Turbo pickup Fiberglass bed, Fiberglass Fenders. 91 1.5JZ GT40 Supra. 77 Celica Liftback. (WTB: 20R Carb!)

11-07-2009, 05:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
aerocorey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fanna, Italy / Springfield, VT Posts: 68	Tighten the torsion bar adjustment on the low side. My truck leaned to the left when I bought it. Adjusted the torsion bars to level it out, now it's good. Be warned, running up one side brings the other side up just a little too. You've gotta adjust, then drive it a bet to let it settle. Measure. Bang head. Re-adjust. Repeat as nessecary. __________________ Corey '94 3.0 5 speed

11-07-2009, 02:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
PCE91V64x4 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226	Any idea how much adjustment you get for each turn? To level it out are we talking about 1/2 turn or 15 turns? And I would guess there is also the option of loosening the high side to lower it? __________________ 3.0 V6, 5-speed, 4x4, 200,xxx, Daily Driver

11-08-2009, 06:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
91_TOYOTA_4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 263	man my 91 leans to the right too. its not bad by myself but once i get a passenger its down bad lol. i mean to crank my torsion bar but have never done it and dont have a torque wrench. you guys have any tips to not breaking anything when i tighten mine? __________________ 91 std cab,4wd, 22re, 5spd, 31" Dick Cepek mud country's, dimond plate in box. "open diffs SUCK"

11-08-2009, 06:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 771	PB blaster.. You don't need a torque wrench to tighten it.. Just tighten (or loosen) and check your ride height. 1-2 turns won't raise it an inch.. the threads are VERY fine, so you'll have to turn it ALOT. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

11-07-2009, 01:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
justin.boone21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ft. Richardson, AK Posts: 15	haha yeah fat chicks right... where are the torsion bars?? i dont really know alot about my truck...first time toyota.

11-07-2009, 01:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
peapicker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 181	ok ok! If you look about 3 feet behind the front tires inside the frame rails you will see an adjustment bolt on the end of your torsion bar. there is one on each side. tighten to raise, loosen to lower. jacking the truck up would make them turn easier.

11-07-2009, 05:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
peapicker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 181	no way to tell, just play with it.

11-07-2009, 05:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
justin.boone21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ft. Richardson, AK Posts: 15	i dont know but i just tightened it till it was screeching and now its level! lol its awesome.

11-08-2009, 08:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
boxer.fan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 16	Can anyone provide a pic of what the nuts and bolt look like at this torsion bar? Possibly a before and after pic. __________________ 86 Toyota 22re stock 4x4 IFS 31/10.5-15 01 Ford Expedition 4.6 75 Ford F-250 4x4 HiBoy

11-11-2009, 05:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
boxer.fan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 16	OK I have located this part, but do I need to hold to nut at the top while I turn the bottum with the ratchet or should I loosen the nuts then turn? Which way do I need to turn this bolt to raise this side of the truck? __________________ 86 Toyota 22re stock 4x4 IFS 31/10.5-15 01 Ford Expedition 4.6 75 Ford F-250 4x4 HiBoy

11-11-2009, 06:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 771	righty tighty lefty loosey... tighter will raise it, looser will lower it.. i put a big pipe wrench on the bolts.. i couldn't get the locking bolt loose so i just muscled both of them tighter. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

11-11-2009, 10:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
justin.boone21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ft. Richardson, AK Posts: 15	I just tightened on the bottom one caue i could get to it, and it worked so you dont need to hold the top one. Just tighten the side that leans to raise it.

11-11-2009, 10:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 771	Well, mine wasn't seized to the bracket that holds it on so i actually had to hold it :/ you should have checked to see if they actually just tightened one side, because you probably could have lowered the too-high side, too. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

11-14-2009, 07:22 AM	#22 (permalink)
boxer.fan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 16	Man I havent been able to access the site for a day or so. Everyone else get in ok? Anyhow, I look at the drivers side torsion bar adjustment side, this is the side that is higher, and the top of the bolt is almost touching the body. The passenger side, which is the lower, still has a ways to reach the body from underneath. Now should I just lower the high side or raise the lower side? If I raise the lower side do I compromise right quality and possibly safety with too much tension on the torsion? Or is it safe? thanks, this is something I will get on today. __________________ 86 Toyota 22re stock 4x4 IFS 31/10.5-15 01 Ford Expedition 4.6 75 Ford F-250 4x4 HiBoy

11-14-2009, 10:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
aerocorey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fanna, Italy / Springfield, VT Posts: 68	Tightening that bolt doesn't actually screw it in towards the cab or change the length of the bolt, it pulls the torsion bar down. With my truck the side that needed to be tightened was already pulled down farther than the side that was too high. I ended up having to take it apart to where I could slip the adjusting bellcrank thingie off of the back end of the torsion bar and rotate it a few splines. boxer.fan, you can't really go wrong with yours. If you want it to sit higher, raise the low side. If you want it to sit lower, lower the high side. It depends on how you want your truck to sit. I can tell you that it hasn't raised itself up any since it rolled off of the assembly line, so if you're looking to return it to stock you need to go up. Lemme say this too...make sure you guys have your trucks on a jackstand when you are adjusting them. I broke my bolt. Realize that if the bolt breaks when the truck is on the ground it will fall down onto the bump stop. I'll say that again...if the bolt breaks and you don't have the truck on a jack it is going to fall. __________________ Corey '94 3.0 5 speed Last edited by aerocorey; 11-14-2009 at 10:57 AM.

11-15-2009, 05:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
91_TOYOTA_4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 263	i tighten mine and my truck drives way better, its level and taller. only think i cant figure out is that with just me driving its level but once i get a passenger its still lower on the pass side. i cant win lol screw torsion bars i cant wait for SAS. __________________ 91 std cab,4wd, 22re, 5spd, 31" Dick Cepek mud country's, dimond plate in box. "open diffs SUCK"

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