$532 = 4"

SR5 · 08-29-2008, 08:00 PM

Front OME Shock
Rear OME Shock
Rear OME Lift Coil Spring
Front OME Steering Dampener

provides 2"

http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html

1 Pair 2"/50mm Coil Spring Spacers and
1 Pair 1.5"/38mm Ball Joint Spacers

provides the other 2"

also
Panhard Rod Drop Bracket

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...anhardDropBrkt

What do you guys think?
good combo?
anybody running this?

Matt16 · 08-29-2008, 08:21 PM

You cannot lift the front 4.5" without a bracket lift. The front is actually best left stock height for durability. Buy lockers and forget the lift, 4Runners already have more ground clearance than just about any other 4x4 stock.

SR5 · 08-29-2008, 10:29 PM

Well when i first bought the truck i would have agreed with you, i couldn't find a place to get stuck, but as time moved and as i got more serious into wealing well the need for a lift become clear

SR5 · 08-29-2008, 10:54 PM

wait is the reason that you cant lift the front 4.5 inches because the A arms would be to over extended??

abecedarian · 08-29-2008, 11:22 PM

I'm stuck with the math...
nothing other than the BJ spacers changes the front lift.
so... BJ spacers= 1.5" lift up front....
someone want to explain how we end up with 4.5"?
even with 1" from a torsion bar (not listed in the OP, but is on the webpage about the lift)...
we're still at 2.5, not 4.5

even when combining the best of components from the original post,
I still can't get any more than 3" no matter how I try to stretch it.

abecedarian · 08-29-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR5

wait is the reason that you cant lift the front 4.5 inches because the A arms would be to over extended??

how about this: you can't lift it 4.5" because it's not in the kit(s) you're looking at.
and going 4.5" lift with an IFS suspension would bind the CV joints unless the differential was lowered, and that's not in your 'kit' either.

SR5 · 08-30-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abecedarian

I'm stuck with the math...
nothing other than the BJ spacers changes the front lift.
so... BJ spacers= 1.5" lift up front....
someone want to explain how we end up with 4.5"?
even with 1" from a torsion bar (not listed in the OP, but is on the webpage about the lift)...
we're still at 2.5, not 4.5

even when combining the best of components from the original post,
I still can't get any more than 3" no matter how I try to stretch it.

well the new shocks up front raise it 2"
at least thats what OME site said

CC_yota · 08-30-2008, 12:12 AM

Jeenyus04 · 08-30-2008, 12:51 AM

shocks them selves cannot raise a vehicle
if your starting to do some serious wheeling thinking about an sas may be a better idea than fighting with your ifs for a while then giving in and doing it.

FredTJ · 08-30-2008, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR5

Well when i first bought the truck i would have agreed with you, i couldn't find a place to get stuck, but as time moved and as i got more serious into wealing well the need for a lift become clear

Ok, let's start way at the beginning.
Why or what, specifically is causing "the need for a lift become clear" ??

To provide meaningful help, we need to know what the specific problem(s) is(are).

Fred

FredTJ · 08-30-2008, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR5

well the new shocks up front raise it 2"
at least thats what OME site said

No, that's not what the site says.
You didn't read it close enough

Fred

SR5 · 09-01-2008, 05:33 PM

Fred
the site said 2" and all that came on the front was shocks so i assumed that whats lifted it

the need for a lift comes from
A) Height clearance of the belly
B) the need to fit 33 and still have flex
C) to have more range of motion of my sespention

abecedarian · 09-01-2008, 06:04 PM

I think I know where the confusion lies. The site says that if you're not installing the oversize torsion bars that you'll have to adjust the stock bars for the lift. Either option is not the smartest thing to do if you're planning on using 4wd- cranking the stock bars for lift will put your CV's in a position to bind and also give you a more harsh ride since you'll have almost full suspension travel for compression and almost none for extension and the installing the uprated bars may give you a stiffer ride and will also require you crank them for lift so you'll have the same problems as using the stock bars.

Also, you won't get any extra flex at all in the front unless you install the BJ spacers.

Mic09dcsm · 09-01-2008, 07:02 PM

The 2" should mean for 2" of lift with regard to the shocks, as in what they can accomodate. I would get the coil spacers, bj spacers and a 2" Body lift if I were you.

ovrrdrive · 09-01-2008, 08:06 PM

Going with oversized tbars and cranking them up and adding bj spacers both give the same type of lift and both are going to put your cv's in a bad angle. Trying to do both at the same time will make the truck all but un-drivable. If you want/need 4" you need to go with a bracket lift. You can get a 4" Rough Country bracket lift for $599 shipped direct and it is the same lift as a Superlift but with different coatings on the parts.

Thinking that you have to somehow justify why you want to lift the truck on here before you get any advice is just plain silly...

Jay351 · 09-01-2008, 08:21 PM

Well, cranking the torsion bars usually causes you to ride on the upper bumpstops = very little down travel. This usually causes a rough ride. BJ spacers allow for the lift but also increase your up travel while keeping your downtravel stock. Verrr nice!

Yes, incase you have not got the just of it yet - shocks do NOT provide lift. When they say they are good for 2" of lift, that means they will fit a truck lifted 2".

You cannot do any lifting beyond around 2" without droping the differential. Without a diff drop your cv joints are not able to cope with the angle.

Do some research

SR5 · 09-01-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovrrdrive

If you want/need 4" you need to go with a bracket lift. You can get a 4" Rough Country bracket lift for $599 shipped direct and it is the same lift as a Superlift but with different coatings on the parts.

i checked but they dont have one available for my year

Fizboy · 09-01-2008, 10:07 PM

If you are wanting to put your rig on 33's you should be able to do it with little to no lift at all in the front with minimal rubbing. I run 33X10.50 on mine with little rub on the sway bars. I do have the thicker torsion bars but that is because I plan on putting on a heavy bumper.

abecedarian · 09-01-2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR5

i checked but they dont have one available for my year

huh? who doesn't have it? rocky road?
they are made you just have to find em.

08-29-2008, 08:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 397	$532 = 4" Front OME Shock Rear OME Shock Rear OME Lift Coil Spring Front OME Steering Dampener provides 2" http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html 1 Pair 2"/50mm Coil Spring Spacers and 1 Pair 1.5"/38mm Ball Joint Spacers provides the other 2" also Panhard Rod Drop Bracket http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...anhardDropBrkt What do you guys think? good combo? anybody running this? __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile \|31x10.50 BFG All Terrain\|Diff Breather Front, Rear\|Low Profile bump stops\|Blue LED Dash\|Japan Running Lights\|Alpine Deck\|Custom 6.25 Sony 4 Way Rear Speakers\|4" Alpine Front Speakers\|

08-29-2008, 10:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 397	Well when i first bought the truck i would have agreed with you, i couldn't find a place to get stuck, but as time moved and as i got more serious into wealing well the need for a lift become clear __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile \|31x10.50 BFG All Terrain\|Diff Breather Front, Rear\|Low Profile bump stops\|Blue LED Dash\|Japan Running Lights\|Alpine Deck\|Custom 6.25 Sony 4 Way Rear Speakers\|4" Alpine Front Speakers\|

08-29-2008, 10:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 397	wait is the reason that you cant lift the front 4.5 inches because the A arms would be to over extended?? __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile \|31x10.50 BFG All Terrain\|Diff Breather Front, Rear\|Low Profile bump stops\|Blue LED Dash\|Japan Running Lights\|Alpine Deck\|Custom 6.25 Sony 4 Way Rear Speakers\|4" Alpine Front Speakers\|

08-30-2008, 12:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
CC_yota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ATX/ Waco Posts: 374	__________________ 95 4Runner- 3vze- A/T- 4.88's Currently LC Coils BJ Spacers SAW T-Bars 32x11.50 BFG A/T's 15x8 black Rockcrawlers Marlin Crawler rear bumper

08-30-2008, 12:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jeenyus04 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: washington Posts: 158	shocks them selves cannot raise a vehicle if your starting to do some serious wheeling thinking about an sas may be a better idea than fighting with your ifs for a while then giving in and doing it. __________________ 85 reg cab s/b, rebuilt 22r, .040 over bore, engnbldr's crawler cam, no cat w/ flo-pro (was on it). tg 5 inch lift. 35 baja claws bright green paint, sliders, custom front bumper, miller rear locker --project-- 02 dodge extended cab s/b, black sport, 24 vavle cummins, 35's, 4 inch exhaust, edge ez

09-01-2008, 05:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 397	Fred the site said 2" and all that came on the front was shocks so i assumed that whats lifted it the need for a lift comes from A) Height clearance of the belly B) the need to fit 33 and still have flex C) to have more range of motion of my sespention __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile \|31x10.50 BFG All Terrain\|Diff Breather Front, Rear\|Low Profile bump stops\|Blue LED Dash\|Japan Running Lights\|Alpine Deck\|Custom 6.25 Sony 4 Way Rear Speakers\|4" Alpine Front Speakers\|

09-01-2008, 07:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 224	The 2" should mean for 2" of lift with regard to the shocks, as in what they can accomodate. I would get the coil spacers, bj spacers and a 2" Body lift if I were you. Last edited by Mic09dcsm : 09-01-2008 at 07:40 PM.

09-01-2008, 08:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,540	Going with oversized tbars and cranking them up and adding bj spacers both give the same type of lift and both are going to put your cv's in a bad angle. Trying to do both at the same time will make the truck all but un-drivable. If you want/need 4" you need to go with a bracket lift. You can get a 4" Rough Country bracket lift for $599 shipped direct and it is the same lift as a Superlift but with different coatings on the parts. Thinking that you have to somehow justify why you want to lift the truck on here before you get any advice is just plain silly... __________________ '95 xcab 4x4 22re,3" BL, 4" Superlift, 1.5" BJ Spacers, 36x13.5 Iroks, M/T Classic Locks, 5.29's, Rear Lockright, J and C head with engnbldr O/S SS valves, RV springs, and Crane Stage 2 cam, Magnaflow 14" with 2.25" in and 2.5" out, NGK V-Power BPR6EY's, OBA with Viair 380C and a 3 gallon tank @ 180psi, Siege Engineering Train horns - Truck bought new in Dec. '94... My buildup thread: link '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

09-01-2008, 08:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 5,951	Well, cranking the torsion bars usually causes you to ride on the upper bumpstops = very little down travel. This usually causes a rough ride. BJ spacers allow for the lift but also increase your up travel while keeping your downtravel stock. Verrr nice! Yes, incase you have not got the just of it yet - shocks do NOT provide lift. When they say they are good for 2" of lift, that means they will fit a truck lifted 2". You cannot do any lifting beyond around 2" without droping the differential. Without a diff drop your cv joints are not able to cope with the angle. Do some research __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - sr5 - 4x4 - 230,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \|Diff breather mod \| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

09-01-2008, 10:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Fizboy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 84	If you are wanting to put your rig on 33's you should be able to do it with little to no lift at all in the front with minimal rubbing. I run 33X10.50 on mine with little rub on the sway bars. I do have the thicker torsion bars but that is because I plan on putting on a heavy bumper. __________________ 92 4-RUNNER AKA: "THE MEXICAN TAXI" 33x10.50-15, Downey 26mm torsion bars, Downey 3" kit sitting on All Pro 1 1/2" coils, HyperFlex suspension bushing kit, flex-a-lite electric fan, NWOR hedders, Flowmaster, K&N, silencer mod, Yakima roof rack w/ Surco safari basket, Midland 75-822 hand held CB, and a bunch of other mods. 84 PU THE EXTREME BUDGET VEHICLE Project Seven Rocks 63" Chevy swap, 4X innovations horse collar, 31X10.5 Interco TrXus MT. Slow go cause I am broke.

09-02-2008, 05:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
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