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Old 09-21-2007, 07:13 AM
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4WD LOW question

I have an 89 pickup with the 22RE, and a 5-speed manual tranny.
I just bought the thing, and haven't had a chance to do much with it, but for giggles I put it in 4 low in the driveway, and it seemed to have the same gearing that is has in 2-hi. Could I be doing something wrong, or is 4-low not that low on this truck? I was expecting crawling slow LOW, but it just didn't seem any different.

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Old 09-21-2007, 07:27 AM
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i thought i was in 4low turns out in was 4high. my 4runner came with a body lift and i found out that sometimes b/ of bl's you can't get 4low w/o buying a shift kit for a $100. if you havea body lift that might be the prob.
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Go try it in some dirt, where you can actually feel how fast it will go. 3rd gear low top speed, seems to equate to 1st gear high's top speed to me. Just for reference.
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Originally Posted by michalik_piotr
i thought i was in 4low turns out in was 4high. my 4runner came with a body lift and i found out that sometimes b/ of bl's you can't get 4low w/o buying a shift kit for a $100. if you havea body lift that might be the prob.
I don't think I have a Body Lift. Is there an easy way to tell? As far as I know it's bone stock, but I don't know for sure.
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Originally Posted by sometoyotaguy
I don't think I have a Body Lift. Is there an easy way to tell? As far as I know it's bone stock, but I don't know for sure.
see if there is space between the body and frame rails.
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mine was bone stock too except it had a 4" bl. see if there are round spacers b/t the body and frame and if you can see the frame rails from the side.
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4Low is 2.28:1 gearing (1:1 in 4High), so you will know/feel the difference.

Make sure you are fulling into 4L. Pull back on the t-case shifter to hit 4H, then over to the right and way forward to get 4L.

It is possible your t-case shifter has been removed and reinstalled improperly at one time. It is possible to stab the end of the shifter into the shift rails in such a way that you can olly get the 2H-4H shifting but not the H-L shifting. To tell, remove the boot and pull the shifter (4 bolts) and see how it was engaged with the shift rails. To get mine installed properly, I put it in 4H and then ensure both notches on the shift rails are aligned (to the front of the hole) and then instert the end of the shifter into the pair of aligned notches. I usually get it wrong about half the time, so I put 2 bolts into the shifter base and make sure it is shifting right before completing the install. Why would the shifter have been reinstalled? Usually it is pulled if doing a clutch replacement or any tranny work or even an engine swap (if the tranny/t-case was pulled with the engine).
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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
4Low is 2.28:1 gearing (1:1 in 4High), so you will know/feel the difference.

Make sure you are fulling into 4L. Pull back on the t-case shifter to hit 4H, then over to the right and way forward to get 4L.

It is possible your t-case shifter has been removed and reinstalled improperly at one time. It is possible to stab the end of the shifter into the shift rails in such a way that you can olly get the 2H-4H shifting but not the H-L shifting. To tell, remove the boot and pull the shifter (4 bolts) and see how it was engaged with the shift rails. To get mine installed properly, I put it in 4H and then ensure both notches on the shift rails are aligned (to the front of the hole) and then instert the end of the shifter into the pair of aligned notches. I usually get it wrong about half the time, so I put 2 bolts into the shifter base and make sure it is shifting right before completing the install. Why would the shifter have been reinstalled? Usually it is pulled if doing a clutch replacement or any tranny work or even an engine swap (if the tranny/t-case was pulled with the engine).

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I'll check that along with the body lift. In some ways, I'm hoping they put it in wrong, because that would mean it has a new clutch. AFAIK it has the origional clutch and 200k on it.
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and don't be testing too much on the driveway, if it's paved. with 200K it may not take much to tear it apart. play in the dirt.
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Just leave the front hubs unlocked (assuming manual hubs) and you can use 4Low (actually 2Low any time you want.
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If it was in 4-low, you'd notice a big difference.
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Originally Posted by javadoody
and don't be testing too much on the driveway, if it's paved. with 200K it may not take much to tear it apart. play in the dirt.

Thanks, but it's a dirt driveway with a bit of an incline. I had the front unlocked anyway, but I just wanted to see what kind of low 4low really was. my 84 chevy was super low in 4low. I'd have it wound right up and it would be hardly moving at all.
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you'd know with your 4runner also. I can put mine in 4low (2low unlocked front) and idle up my driveway, its a pretty good grade...I've just got the 22R also...
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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
Just leave the front hubs unlocked (assuming manual hubs) and you can use 4Low (actually 2Low any time you want.
really awesome tip! I have to maneuver around two cars through a narrow dirt side incline to park furthest back in the driveway because I am always the last one home and the last one to leave ... it's great because I get to do a little off-roading every time I come home ... but I was burning my clutch to keep from moving too fast through the narrow space ... this is the best tip ever!
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Tcases can be tempermental sometimes, try switching it to 4 low and locking the hubs and moving it back and forward a few times
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