kingoddball

Oh no oh no oh no oh no!
Stuff went bad.
No snorkel.

DEEEEEP water. Over the motor... Stuck in the water
Merry bloody christmas!
Whats worse - I wasn't driving. I said "Don't go in there, too deep".
So... They went in. Ruined my truck.

Ok. Lovely.

Won't start. Just one CLICK from the starter motor. Pull it off the truck, it was wet inside. Cleaned it and put it back together. CLICK.

I am going to strip the carbi off, see how much water went in. (it's a 2.2Lt 4Y)

I hope its not too much.
It happened about 6 hours ago, just got it home.. Love the tow trucks!

Have you guys got any advice?

I plan on draining all oils now, maybe that could help later. But yes... Whats first!

EVERY problem I have had with this truck, I have found a solution here!

Discombobulated

Who is they? And where's the video?? Pics

kingoddball

I will add more soon. Got one from after we started to reverse then got stuck. Who: brother in law.

I got the truck 2 weeks ago. Why can't I have nice things!

combatcarl

I'd start with pulling spark plugs, WD40-ing them, cranking over with plugs OUT. Then drain oils, it may take a couple drain/refills before all h2o is gone. Then, unless ya were at high throttle, it should start. Dry out cap and rotor too. Then, DON'T LET ANYBODY ELSE DRIVE IT. EVER. That's the best way to avoid swamping, flipping, or explodering yer stuff.

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kingoddball

High throttle. Yep!
Trying to reverse out!!

wyoming9

iTrader: (1)

Best advice don`t let anyone ever drive your truck!!

Ask your wife if she has any good ideas how to punish her brother.

I am thinking make him your maid for a year wearing one of those french maid outfits . I bet your wife would love that!!

In any case pull the plugs after seeing just how much water is in the oil we don`t want to do more damage.

After getting the oil changed at least once to make sure you are getting oil not water where needed.

It should crank over with water shooting out of the cylinders that where full.

If you have not done a tune up in a while might be a good time.

Good Luck

kingoddball

Thanks. Not an uncommon issue? Haha.
I'm burning. Never been so bloody angry.

How come the car won't crank? All I hear is a click when I turn on ignition. Click is from startermotor.

Could the water have destroyed the starter?

Devastated! I hate people!
It was my pride and joy! (for two weeks!)

shaeff

My guess would be that the motor is hydrolocked. (Water does not compress like air/fuel mixture) and as such, will not allow the motor to turn over. Do as someone above stated, drain fluids, refill, pull plugs, and crank the motor with a battery charger hooked up to it and the plugs out. You should see lots of water being evacuated from the cylinders, assuming that water in the motor is what's stopping it from cranking.

kingoddball

Motor oil is like mud - lovely.
Starter motor just clicks, no crank whatsoever.
Water everywhere. Not sure if the electrics are ruined. My anger has continued to rise! You think food and sleep would be calming.

I don't know where to start. :'(

kingoddball

Carbi has been drained. Motor oil draining now. Gear box will have to be done. There was a LOT of water in the starter, would have probably gone through.

combatcarl

How did it stall? As in high throttle, and a sudden stop, or just kinda ran crappy, sputtered and died? That will tell a lot about how much harm may have been done. If it just bogged down and died out, new oil, and clearing the cylinders out may be all that's needed. If it was wound up, and just quit suddenly, like a sudden stop, there could be some damage.

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kingoddball

Ok:
First stage: high throttle 1st and reverse.
Then jumped out, it was idling away for about 15 minutes. For back in, tried to reverse out, stalled.

combatcarl

Ok. It is probably still ok, just full of water. Should come back to life. Probably got distributor wet, and that's what shut it off. You'd have known instantly if it gulped in a lot of water suddenly.

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crawler85

I have a snorkel on my rig, but was wondering....

Won't the vehicle die prior to hydrolock because the

Alternator, battery, distributor, coil, efi, fuse boxes

Are all below the snorkel and they will likely short out or fail shortly after being submerged?

combatcarl

Not really. The electricity will generally follow the path of least resistance and highest conductivity (copper). But it can mess with things like ignition. (Spark related). Ever wash off the top of your battery and terminals with water? Doesn't short that out. Now it could DEFINITELY mess with ECU and related "delicate" electronics.

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Co_94_PU

iTrader: (-1)

It might cut out sooner, but don't count on it. That was the purpose of the "How did it act? What did it do? What were you doing?" questions. If you're reving 3000 rpm and someone throws a kill switch for instance, all those moving parts don't just stop where they are..

Most of those are well sealed. If the alternator gets drenched you still have all the battery power to go thru first. And even under water the battery is more likely to conduct (more so) thru the copper wiring than the water unless you drove into say the dead sea. The distibutor has an O ring (usually), and the boots. The coil pack is a sealed unit, unless damaged with boots on the trigger wires and such. Injectors are booted. Fuse boxes lightly sealed and raised.

If you're bogging it's highly recommended to make sure you have https://www.google.com/search?q=defi...lectric+grease in all the proper locations. Like the fuse boxes, regulator on the alternator, all electrical boots/connections.

I drive around puddles, but still have the insulating grease to prevent shorts..

kingoddball

Is there any way to test a starter motor when it's removed? Pos+Neg direct to a battery?

brianh699

This is for the 22re and 3vze but starter testing should be the same. http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b.../starting.html

kingoddball

Thanks!
I ended up stripping it down. Cleaning everything out of it, cleaned and sanded all the copper pads and put it back together. Got the starter to fire up!
Going to buy a starter rebuild kit (4crawler guide!) online soon.

Although, no water came out of the pistons. I had the sparks removed all day (12 hours) and it's a hot summer day here. Dried out.

Next I need to remove the carbi and try clean out all of the dirt. The way dirty water in the top of the carbi.

Closer!! Got it cranking!

Anything else I should clean and make sure is right?
I did notice the rear diff is leaking. It was not the day before.

Gear box flush tomorrow.

Thanks!

combatcarl

All fluids and oils should be drained, at least once. Pull distributor cap, leave off to dry, check rear drums, make sure there isn't a bunch of crud in there. Uh...might pull fuel tank drain, make sure there isn't water in the bottom, if fuel runs clear, you're good there. Uhh... That's it for now. Bedtime!

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