3vze performance

killa b · 12-16-2006, 08:04 PM

wat can i do to get more power out of my 3.slow or who makes performance products for the 3.slow thanks

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MonsterMaxx · 12-16-2006, 08:08 PM

Swap in an engine with some real potential.

Any money you spend on the 3.slow is just polishing a turd, and I have one of the shinyiest turds around.

Elton · 12-16-2006, 08:09 PM

awesome made a 2nd thread for what reason ?

killa b · 12-16-2006, 08:13 PM

couldnt find my last post about it sorry about that and cant afford to do a swap right now just looking for a little more torque

Elton · 12-16-2006, 08:15 PM

hmm /f116/3-slow-101920/ still there

4runnermax · 12-16-2006, 08:15 PM

If ya wanna keep it real cheap(and simple) and can do it your self...

From what i've read (I'm about to venture into this my self)
Downey headers and over sized valves, and be done with it.Any thing else to me seems to be too much trouble

with little gain...
K&N filter replacment seems to have helped me a little currently though

killa b · 12-16-2006, 08:28 PM

what about cams do those help at all or maby port and polish or does an exhaust system work

4runnermax · 12-16-2006, 08:35 PM

I've read a couple things about cams. Dont really know cost's though i'm going to look into that before i do the rebuild... Porting and polishing is a PITA and if its not done right is totaly worthless (from what I heard in school T-TEN) but then again you could do it right and get a little gain (My question though is would it be worthless over time as dirt surly will get in and ruin your smooth surface... hmm....

The main point of the downey headers is to get rid of the stock exhaust burning up the valves and head gasket, (the central weak point of the 3.0)
It just has the added bonous of more power

91_4x4runner · 12-16-2006, 08:39 PM

#1 way to get power out of the 3.0 is to

1) Drive downhill
2) Drive with a tailwind
3) Drive downhill while drafting a big rig.
4) Put a hole in the floorboard and use the Fred Flinstone technique.

ChickenLover · 12-16-2006, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killa b

what about cams do those help at all or maby port and polish or does an exhaust system work

Search, noob.

killa b · 12-16-2006, 08:45 PM

i have and cant find nothin and im just lookin for companys mainly to see wats out there and figure out what works and wat doesnt

Bumpin' Yota · 12-16-2006, 08:46 PM

the other thread is gone for whatever reason...mods yall need to read before ya delete...

Ok the 3vze gets a bad rap imo. It is limited to only about 190-195hp whne normally aspirated with every bolt on in the book. When linked to an auto, 90% of the driving public is afriad to rev the engine, and the torque converter doesnt flash till about 2500rpm so of course its not goign to have a lot of guts down low... And lastly its linked to a truck that tips the scales at over 4400lbs most of the time.

So with every NA bolt on in the book the 3vze might equal or marginally beat out a bone stock 5vzfe. An engine many think itself is under powered.

As far as mods to get that extra 30-40hp are going to run you about 1500 to 2000 pending on what and where you get it.

1. Cams - Contact weasy on this board for AWOSOME cams. 400 bux gets you 2x the hp headers will AND 10% better fuel economy. Dyno proven.

2. Oversized Valves from engine builder - These + PNP + headers = 30hp! Add cams and you are at least 15hp higher still.

3. FIPK. On a stock truck will help marginally if in hot weather at sea level. (hot = 95*F+ with 90+% humidity)

4. Jacobs ignition. (The full setup NOT just a coil) This has been dyno proven for 10+ rwhp as well on the top end.

5. 2.25" exhaust, free flowing cat

6. regear

4runnermax · 12-16-2006, 08:48 PM

My stock v-6 runs pritty hard i'm pritty content (I used to have a 4.6 V-8, I had no prob when I swaped to my 3."Slow" yota) The main diff i noticed was that I didnt get sucked to the back of my seat anymore when i take off.... But what can I say its not a sports car with a huge v-8... It seems to me that way to many people are whiney... You want a 4wd get a 4wd you want lots of power get a sports car not a 4wd

killa b · 12-16-2006, 08:55 PM

thanks for the help and i just need that little more power to get up a hill and be able to keep up with a honda

4runnermax · 12-16-2006, 09:08 PM

Sry if i sounded offensive to you it was supposed to be focused at 91_4x4runner.
Thats so stupid

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91_4x4runner

#1 way to get power out of the 3.0 is to

1) Drive downhill
2) Drive with a tailwind
3) Drive downhill while drafting a big rig.
4) Put a hole in the floorboard and use the Fred Flinstone technique.

Bumpin' Yota · 12-16-2006, 09:09 PM

ha! mine with just a FIPK had no issues taking out my now psycho ex girlfriend's civic ex. Honda sucks, kinda like my ex! LoL

But getcha some cams and some header and a nice exhaust. Youll have no issues at all.

Mister Willie · 12-16-2006, 09:10 PM

You don't need to keep up with no honda. You can climb a mountainside, no problem! I wanna see a civic do that! Most I've ever seen from a civic was when we jumped it

Bumpin' Yota · 12-16-2006, 09:11 PM

oh yeah another problem is that people put bigger tires on when it was undergeared with 225/75r15s to begin with, then wonder why they have no power and no gas mileage with 31s or 32s or 33s.... grrrr!!

killa b · 12-16-2006, 09:15 PM

i have 35 mud terrians and its geared right to and actually ive seen a honda climb a mountainside and its hillarious and its also really hard to reach 65 on a short on ramp

Bumpin' Yota · 12-16-2006, 09:17 PM

What gears you have now?

12-16-2006, 08:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 12,279	awesome made a 2nd thread for what reason ? __________________ 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 was my moms r.i.p 3/19/11 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker sold 10-2-11 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 97 honda civic lx 4dr ls vtec

12-16-2006, 08:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 12,279	hmm /f116/3-slow-101920/ still there __________________ 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 was my moms r.i.p 3/19/11 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker sold 10-2-11 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 97 honda civic lx 4dr ls vtec

12-16-2006, 08:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
4runnermax Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 65	If ya wanna keep it real cheap(and simple) and can do it your self... From what i've read (I'm about to venture into this my self) Downey headers and over sized valves, and be done with it.Any thing else to me seems to be too much trouble with little gain... K&N filter replacment seems to have helped me a little currently though Last edited by 4runnermax; 12-16-2006 at 08:16 PM.

12-16-2006, 08:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
91_4x4runner Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,072	#1 way to get power out of the 3.0 is to 1) Drive downhill 2) Drive with a tailwind 3) Drive downhill while drafting a big rig. 4) Put a hole in the floorboard and use the Fred Flinstone technique. __________________ ~Eric 1991 4Runner 3.0L 4x4 Black, 31" Michelin M/S tires, OME-901's 1992 Lexus SC400 4.0 V8, Green with Tan interior (donor) (PM me for parts) Near Future: FI 1UZ swap. (June) Far Future mods: F/R Lockers, SAS, 35's. UZswap.com - A discussion forum dedicated specifically to swapping UZ engines into Toyota trucks and 4Runners

12-16-2006, 08:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bumpin' Yota Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 3,673	the other thread is gone for whatever reason...mods yall need to read before ya delete... Ok the 3vze gets a bad rap imo. It is limited to only about 190-195hp whne normally aspirated with every bolt on in the book. When linked to an auto, 90% of the driving public is afriad to rev the engine, and the torque converter doesnt flash till about 2500rpm so of course its not goign to have a lot of guts down low... And lastly its linked to a truck that tips the scales at over 4400lbs most of the time. So with every NA bolt on in the book the 3vze might equal or marginally beat out a bone stock 5vzfe. An engine many think itself is under powered. As far as mods to get that extra 30-40hp are going to run you about 1500 to 2000 pending on what and where you get it. 1. Cams - Contact weasy on this board for AWOSOME cams. 400 bux gets you 2x the hp headers will AND 10% better fuel economy. Dyno proven. 2. Oversized Valves from engine builder - These + PNP + headers = 30hp! Add cams and you are at least 15hp higher still. 3. FIPK. On a stock truck will help marginally if in hot weather at sea level. (hot = 95*F+ with 90+% humidity) 4. Jacobs ignition. (The full setup NOT just a coil) This has been dyno proven for 10+ rwhp as well on the top end. 5. 2.25" exhaust, free flowing cat 6. regear __________________ 3vze, 4x4, sr5, 90, auto, LSD 2x dB Drag World Finalist 2003 Nopi Nat. Street B champ 2004 SBN Street C champ 2004 SBN Advncd NW Champ 2004 Former WR Holder in NW. SPL: 159.8db @ 42hz In loving memory of Jamie Riggs 5/15/85 - 10/8/04

12-16-2006, 08:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
MonsterMaxx Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 568	Swap in an engine with some real potential. Any money you spend on the 3.slow is just polishing a turd, and I have one of the shinyiest turds around.

12-16-2006, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
killa b Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: phoenix az Posts: 303	couldnt find my last post about it sorry about that and cant afford to do a swap right now just looking for a little more torque

12-16-2006, 08:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
killa b Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: phoenix az Posts: 303	what about cams do those help at all or maby port and polish or does an exhaust system work

12-16-2006, 08:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
4runnermax Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 65	I've read a couple things about cams. Dont really know cost's though i'm going to look into that before i do the rebuild... Porting and polishing is a PITA and if its not done right is totaly worthless (from what I heard in school T-TEN) but then again you could do it right and get a little gain (My question though is would it be worthless over time as dirt surly will get in and ruin your smooth surface... hmm.... The main point of the downey headers is to get rid of the stock exhaust burning up the valves and head gasket, (the central weak point of the 3.0) It just has the added bonous of more power

12-16-2006, 08:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
killa b Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: phoenix az Posts: 303	i have and cant find nothin and im just lookin for companys mainly to see wats out there and figure out what works and wat doesnt

12-16-2006, 08:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
4runnermax Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 65	My stock v-6 runs pritty hard i'm pritty content (I used to have a 4.6 V-8, I had no prob when I swaped to my 3."Slow" yota) The main diff i noticed was that I didnt get sucked to the back of my seat anymore when i take off.... But what can I say its not a sports car with a huge v-8... It seems to me that way to many people are whiney... You want a 4wd get a 4wd you want lots of power get a sports car not a 4wd

12-16-2006, 08:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
killa b Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: phoenix az Posts: 303	thanks for the help and i just need that little more power to get up a hill and be able to keep up with a honda

12-16-2006, 09:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
Bumpin' Yota Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 3,673	ha! mine with just a FIPK had no issues taking out my now psycho ex girlfriend's civic ex. Honda sucks, kinda like my ex! LoL But getcha some cams and some header and a nice exhaust. Youll have no issues at all. __________________ 3vze, 4x4, sr5, 90, auto, LSD 2x dB Drag World Finalist 2003 Nopi Nat. Street B champ 2004 SBN Street C champ 2004 SBN Advncd NW Champ 2004 Former WR Holder in NW. SPL: 159.8db @ 42hz In loving memory of Jamie Riggs 5/15/85 - 10/8/04

12-16-2006, 09:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mister Willie Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,151	You don't need to keep up with no honda. You can climb a mountainside, no problem! I wanna see a civic do that! Most I've ever seen from a civic was when we jumped it

12-16-2006, 09:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bumpin' Yota Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 3,673	oh yeah another problem is that people put bigger tires on when it was undergeared with 225/75r15s to begin with, then wonder why they have no power and no gas mileage with 31s or 32s or 33s.... grrrr!! __________________ 3vze, 4x4, sr5, 90, auto, LSD 2x dB Drag World Finalist 2003 Nopi Nat. Street B champ 2004 SBN Street C champ 2004 SBN Advncd NW Champ 2004 Former WR Holder in NW. SPL: 159.8db @ 42hz In loving memory of Jamie Riggs 5/15/85 - 10/8/04

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12-16-2006, 09:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
killa b Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: phoenix az Posts: 303	i have 35 mud terrians and its geared right to and actually ive seen a honda climb a mountainside and its hillarious and its also really hard to reach 65 on a short on ramp

12-16-2006, 09:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bumpin' Yota Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 3,673	What gears you have now? __________________ 3vze, 4x4, sr5, 90, auto, LSD 2x dB Drag World Finalist 2003 Nopi Nat. Street B champ 2004 SBN Street C champ 2004 SBN Advncd NW Champ 2004 Former WR Holder in NW. SPL: 159.8db @ 42hz In loving memory of Jamie Riggs 5/15/85 - 10/8/04

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