3vze complete exhaust - Page 5

MKtaco_98 · 11-01-2009, 08:32 PM

Haha Great Videos Mike the vid of the revs outside sounds great

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93yotaSR5 · 11-01-2009, 08:38 PM

heard it up close and personal tonight. sounds damn good! i was driving behind him afterwords and did not sound like a v6!

MaK92-4RnR · 11-02-2009, 11:48 PM

It had a nice tone to it when we were 4 wheeling today... I loved it. hah feel bad for my bumper, even though I just fixed it...

needs paint again.

camo31"10.50" · 11-03-2009, 12:05 AM

i think i just creamed my pants at your videos...................

prreeeetttyyy sure..im gonna drop the $400-$600 for the 3.0 headers sometime....holy cow..

or i might just forget about that..and get some 3.4 headers for when that swap gets started

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 09:03 AM

haha thanks camo. some people love it, some people hate it.

my dad cant stand it because its too "loud" in the cab... but It doesn't bother me.

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 09:23 AM

You make me wanna go out and get my exhaust fixed, I did it on the cheap, so no good sounding one for me. The shop that welded it did a band job, its leaky, and sounds horrible. I know what my next muffler will be though, yours! It sounds really nice.

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 09:30 AM

Thanks, I put alot of money into it, but like I said. Im very proud of it due to the fact I did it myself... i wouldn't spent hundreds more if I had a shop do it, but now I can appreciate it

I did some cheap exhaust to upgrade from stock. but I knew that doing that I wasn't statisfied with the noise. I wanted it louder... this system is very loud... if you HATE in cab noise, I recommend not getting this system. theres nothing you can do about it unless you get a quieter muffler.

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR

Thanks, I put alot of money into it, but like I said. Im very proud of it due to the fact I did it myself... i wouldn't spent hundreds more if I had a shop do it, but now I can appreciate it

I did some cheap exhaust to upgrade from stock. but I knew that doing that I wasn't statisfied with the noise. I wanted it louder... this system is very loud... if you HATE in cab noise, I recommend not getting this system. theres nothing you can do about it unless you get a quieter muffler.

Yea I hear you about the money part, I couldn't afford to go all out, and I HAD to put an exhaust in, because I put headers in when i put a rebuilt engine in. I think the total was like $230 including the crossover from downey. But I got what I paid for, a leaky, farty exhaust. From the vids the in cab noise is pleasant, much better than mine sounds. But a Borla exhaust like yours is def in my future.

Oh and did the headers have the fittings for the EGR and PAIR? If they did, did you not put the systems in and just patch the holes?

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 11:21 AM

they had fittings for the EGR and PAIR. It came with the new tubes that attached to it. and all I had to do was put them on and seal them. simple as that

Downey's exhaust leaks? I heard they were better than Doug thorley... lol weird... maybe if you just threw the borla on there, it'll sound better. Im actually about to swap the stock cat back onto my truck... you think the bigger piping will ruin the stocker?

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 11:26 AM

Well it leaks because I have no PAIR or EGR. They are fixed using pennies and dimes though. I used to use pennies but they meleted. haha. It leaks where the shop welded everything together (joints on the crossover), and I don't use a cat, but you're from cali so you HAVE to have a cat. Why are you thinking of switching it out?

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 11:30 AM

the high flow cat makes it sound reallllllly ricey before the pipes warm up... it just bugs me. for 10-15 minutes of driving I have to listen to that.... after that it sounds amazing. Your headers should've come with the PAIR and EGR... downey's are carb legal and are supposed to have it. and yeah, I have to use a cat. you think swapping the cat out to the stock cat will change the noise much?

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 11:42 AM

I'm sure they did, but the rebuilt engine I bought came with them (a few years old), and no fittings, I had to buy gaskets, bolts and nuts, crossover, and the part that holds the tubes in. I just removed the EGR and didn't bother with the PAIR anyway haha, I mean I would have, but I was running out of money and still had to get an exhaust, and I'm sure you know what open headers sound like, I lived with that for a month, then another month with the crossover only. I got a few headaches from that, and a warning, haha.

The stock cat will put a bit of restriction, but it doesn't hurt to try does it, and as for sound, i think it will make it a bit quieter (teensy)

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 12:15 PM

eh... how much restriction though? and how much quieter? lol its pretty damn loud as it is.

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 12:32 PM

Um, I'm not really too sure, but it shouldn't cause a noticeable difference as far as restriction, and noise is just a little bit quieter, but not that noticeable.

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 02:27 PM

and it'll also get rid of the rice noise... lol

sounds like a win win for me

My CEL turned back on again on the way home from work... hah my truck is possessed.

24Runna · 11-03-2009, 03:51 PM

Haha I also didn't have a o2 sensor for a few thousand miles.... Constant CEL, my friends were like "isn't that bad?, should we take my car? No it means nothing."

MaK92-4RnR · 11-03-2009, 03:53 PM

lmao yeah. I think my o2 censor is done for... could it be because I added bigger pipes, and a high flow cat that the o2 censor is burning up? what could be the possbilities?

snowshredder555 · 11-03-2009, 08:59 PM

Thanks for posting the video..great sound in cab and out.

As for the CAT...there'll will be an increase in the restriction of spent gases, and performance will suffer. Though when you added the headers you increased the volumetric efficency and speed of the exhaust. So the lost power will be minimal. However, if you look into both of the converters side by side, you'll see that the only real difference should be the openings/ spaces in the ceramic bricks. I think Magnaflow use's a form of steel...Haven't researched them in a while so I'm kind of shootin' from the hip on research from maybe a year and a half ago.

I guess I'm kind of fortunate with having Doug Thorley in the next couple of cities over...I'm gonna go by their facility some time this week or next and see if I can't work out a deal and get the headers cheaper than what summit sells them for...if not I'll just drop the $$ this weekend and order them.

Another question on your install with the headers, Did/ do you have any leaks coming from the mounting flange (s)? I think you stated you heat cycled them and then retorqued the bolt's...how many times did you do this? Also, did you use any type of sealent on the gaskets? If so, what kind?

My set will look something like this...DT headers, Magnaflow OEM cat (mine sounds like an empty can with rocks<--wont pass smog and I'm close to 3 months past due), at least a 19" length Magnaflow<-- bigger = deeper tone and not so "ricey"...aside from the cost of the headers, my muffler guy is only going to hit me for about $360.00. <--includes the cost of the cat and muffler. He'll custom bend all the pipe back up towards the body to compensate for the 2" BL I'm putting on. Then to the smog man so I can finally drive it..Legaly.

I still have so much more to do.....

Great job though on yours..

-Ted

rhill · 11-03-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by snowshredder555

Another question on your install with the headers, Did/ do you have any leaks coming from the mounting flange (s)? I think you stated you heat cycled them and then retorqued the bolt's...how many times did you do this? Also, did you use any type of sealent on the gaskets? If so, what kind?

x2...

MaK92-4RnR · 11-04-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by snowshredder555

Thanks for posting the video..great sound in cab and out.

As for the CAT...there'll will be an increase in the restriction of spent gases, and performance will suffer. Though when you added the headers you increased the volumetric efficency and speed of the exhaust. So the lost power will be minimal. However, if you look into both of the converters side by side, you'll see that the only real difference should be the openings/ spaces in the ceramic bricks. I think Magnaflow use's a form of steel...Haven't researched them in a while so I'm kind of shootin' from the hip on research from maybe a year and a half ago.

I guess I'm kind of fortunate with having Doug Thorley in the next couple of cities over...I'm gonna go by their facility some time this week or next and see if I can't work out a deal and get the headers cheaper than what summit sells them for...if not I'll just drop the $$ this weekend and order them.

Another question on your install with the headers, Did/ do you have any leaks coming from the mounting flange (s)? I think you stated you heat cycled them and then retorqued the bolt's...how many times did you do this? Also, did you use any type of sealent on the gaskets? If so, what kind?

My set will look something like this...DT headers, Magnaflow OEM cat (mine sounds like an empty can with rocks<--wont pass smog and I'm close to 3 months past due), at least a 19" length Magnaflow<-- bigger = deeper tone and not so "ricey"...aside from the cost of the headers, my muffler guy is only going to hit me for about $360.00. <--includes the cost of the cat and muffler. He'll custom bend all the pipe back up towards the body to compensate for the 2" BL I'm putting on. Then to the smog man so I can finally drive it..Legaly.

I still have so much more to do.....

Great job though on yours..

-Ted

Just to make sure I fully understand the question. I dont have any leaks coming from anywhere in the system. the mounting flanges are completely bolt on. just consists of a bolt, washer and lock washer. worked perfectly. The headers came with such bolts, but you can use the stock ones. as far as sealant. I went out and bought a High temp rated silicone made by locktite. the headers came with full on instructions and a list of "recommended parts" and it was what they suggested.

My muffler is a 12.9" muffler and it has no ricey noise to it... its just ridiculously loud. My 4runner sets off car alarms when I WOT by a car. Parking garages fear me.

Im actually getting a 2" body lift really soon... so i'll probably take my exhaust back in to raise it a little.

snowshredder555 · 11-04-2009, 07:25 PM

Thanks for the info....good to know the instructions have actual recomendations.

I hope I didn't offend you by the ricey comment...

My buddy had an Acura Integra with a Flowmaster on it and I thought that sounded pretty bad a$$... but then he was 19 at the time and it was only his 2nd car. Again, he had to drive it not me.
I prefer a more mellow tone, but something that really comes to life when you romp the throttle...and Magnaflow has met this criteria for my last 5 vehicles.
And the straight flow through design releases all back pressure created by most MFG.'d mufflers.
Currently on my 04' F-150 5.4, I have a 21" Magnaflow and it works perfectly...only took 4 different mufflers before I went back with the tried and true Magnaflow.

By Leaks, I ment...some header flanges become warped if not heat cycled and retorqued properly and even then they still might warp...the JBA's on my F150 are warped...I paid someone else to do the install...now I'm paying the price for it with a really nice exhaust leak. They need to be machined and then reinstalled...correctly.

In the instructions did they DT list the loctite sealent you used? Just curious...

-Ted

MaK92-4RnR · 11-04-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snowshredder555

Thanks for the info....good to know the instructions have actual recomendations.

I hope I didn't offend you by the ricey comment...

My buddy had an Acura Integra with a Flowmaster on it and I thought that sounded pretty bad a$$... but then he was 19 at the time and it was only his 2nd car. Again, he had to drive it not me.
I prefer a more mellow tone, but something that really comes to life when you romp the throttle...and Magnaflow has met this criteria for my last 5 vehicles.
And the straight flow through design releases all back pressure created by most MFG.'d mufflers.
Currently on my 04' F-150 5.4, I have a 21" Magnaflow and it works perfectly...only took 4 different mufflers before I went back with the tried and true Magnaflow.

By Leaks, I ment...some header flanges become warped if not heat cycled and retorqued properly and even then they still might warp...the JBA's on my F150 are warped...I paid someone else to do the install...now I'm paying the price for it with a really nice exhaust leak. They need to be machined and then reinstalled...correctly.

In the instructions did they DT list the loctite sealent you used? Just curious...

-Ted

I used to own a 95 Integra GSR with a magnaflow and it was a nice tone till I whomped on the gas... then it was pure rice.. especially when v-tec kicked in

And nope, My headers haven't warped or anything. they're all sealed up and sound amazing. I've put a couple thousand miles on them already and it sounds just as good as they did when I installed them

No offense taken! everyone has their own opinion. my exhaust is loud, and isn't ricey. I've had people come up to me asking what kind of motor I have in my truck. and their face lights up when I say I still have the 3vze.

No, in the instructions they said ( we recommend using a sealant to insure the headers do not cause leaks and it listed a few companies, Locktite being one of them. )

johnj87 · 11-04-2009, 07:56 PM

im jealous!!!!! that is so sick, i didnt even think the speedo could climb that fast in a 3vze ha ha

MaK92-4RnR · 11-04-2009, 08:04 PM

heh thanks... it'll slow down... no lift or tires yet

snowshredder555 · 11-04-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR

heh thanks... it'll slow down... no lift or tires yet

What size are you runnin' now?

Cant hardly wait till I do all this with the 35's and see what I get back in way of seat of the pants go fastness.

-Ted

11-01-2009, 08:38 PM	#102 (permalink)
93yotaSR5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sacramento ca Posts: 193	heard it up close and personal tonight. sounds damn good! i was driving behind him afterwords and did not sound like a v6! __________________ 93 xtra cab, 3vze, 5speed, 31x10.5x15 bfg M/T KM2 hella 500ff. cobra cb, front and rear diff breather mod, many more coming!

11-02-2009, 11:48 PM	#103 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	It had a nice tone to it when we were 4 wheeling today... I loved it. hah feel bad for my bumper, even though I just fixed it... needs paint again. __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 12:05 AM	#104 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,095	i think i just creamed my pants at your videos................... prreeeetttyyy sure..im gonna drop the $400-$600 for the 3.0 headers sometime....holy cow.. or i might just forget about that..and get some 3.4 headers for when that swap gets started __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-03-2009, 09:03 AM	#105 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	haha thanks camo. some people love it, some people hate it. my dad cant stand it because its too "loud" in the cab... but It doesn't bother me. __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 09:23 AM	#106 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	You make me wanna go out and get my exhaust fixed, I did it on the cheap, so no good sounding one for me. The shop that welded it did a band job, its leaky, and sounds horrible. I know what my next muffler will be though, yours! It sounds really nice. __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

11-03-2009, 09:30 AM	#107 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	Thanks, I put alot of money into it, but like I said. Im very proud of it due to the fact I did it myself... i wouldn't spent hundreds more if I had a shop do it, but now I can appreciate it I did some cheap exhaust to upgrade from stock. but I knew that doing that I wasn't statisfied with the noise. I wanted it louder... this system is very loud... if you HATE in cab noise, I recommend not getting this system. theres nothing you can do about it unless you get a quieter muffler. __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#109 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	they had fittings for the EGR and PAIR. It came with the new tubes that attached to it. and all I had to do was put them on and seal them. simple as that Downey's exhaust leaks? I heard they were better than Doug thorley... lol weird... maybe if you just threw the borla on there, it'll sound better. Im actually about to swap the stock cat back onto my truck... you think the bigger piping will ruin the stocker? __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 11:26 AM	#110 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	Well it leaks because I have no PAIR or EGR. They are fixed using pennies and dimes though. I used to use pennies but they meleted. haha. It leaks where the shop welded everything together (joints on the crossover), and I don't use a cat, but you're from cali so you HAVE to have a cat. Why are you thinking of switching it out? __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

11-03-2009, 11:30 AM	#111 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	the high flow cat makes it sound reallllllly ricey before the pipes warm up... it just bugs me. for 10-15 minutes of driving I have to listen to that.... after that it sounds amazing. Your headers should've come with the PAIR and EGR... downey's are carb legal and are supposed to have it. and yeah, I have to use a cat. you think swapping the cat out to the stock cat will change the noise much? __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 11:42 AM	#112 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	I'm sure they did, but the rebuilt engine I bought came with them (a few years old), and no fittings, I had to buy gaskets, bolts and nuts, crossover, and the part that holds the tubes in. I just removed the EGR and didn't bother with the PAIR anyway haha, I mean I would have, but I was running out of money and still had to get an exhaust, and I'm sure you know what open headers sound like, I lived with that for a month, then another month with the crossover only. I got a few headaches from that, and a warning, haha. The stock cat will put a bit of restriction, but it doesn't hurt to try does it, and as for sound, i think it will make it a bit quieter (teensy) __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

11-03-2009, 12:15 PM	#113 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	eh... how much restriction though? and how much quieter? lol its pretty damn loud as it is. __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 12:32 PM	#114 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	Um, I'm not really too sure, but it shouldn't cause a noticeable difference as far as restriction, and noise is just a little bit quieter, but not that noticeable. __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

11-03-2009, 02:27 PM	#115 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	and it'll also get rid of the rice noise... lol sounds like a win win for me My CEL turned back on again on the way home from work... hah my truck is possessed. __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 03:51 PM	#116 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	Haha I also didn't have a o2 sensor for a few thousand miles.... Constant CEL, my friends were like "isn't that bad?, should we take my car? No it means nothing." __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

11-03-2009, 03:53 PM	#117 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	lmao yeah. I think my o2 censor is done for... could it be because I added bigger pipes, and a high flow cat that the o2 censor is burning up? what could be the possbilities? __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

11-03-2009, 08:59 PM	#118 (permalink)
snowshredder555 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, So.Cal Posts: 28	Thanks for posting the video..great sound in cab and out. As for the CAT...there'll will be an increase in the restriction of spent gases, and performance will suffer. Though when you added the headers you increased the volumetric efficency and speed of the exhaust. So the lost power will be minimal. However, if you look into both of the converters side by side, you'll see that the only real difference should be the openings/ spaces in the ceramic bricks. I think Magnaflow use's a form of steel...Haven't researched them in a while so I'm kind of shootin' from the hip on research from maybe a year and a half ago. I guess I'm kind of fortunate with having Doug Thorley in the next couple of cities over...I'm gonna go by their facility some time this week or next and see if I can't work out a deal and get the headers cheaper than what summit sells them for...if not I'll just drop the $$ this weekend and order them. Another question on your install with the headers, Did/ do you have any leaks coming from the mounting flange (s)? I think you stated you heat cycled them and then retorqued the bolt's...how many times did you do this? Also, did you use any type of sealent on the gaskets? If so, what kind? My set will look something like this...DT headers, Magnaflow OEM cat (mine sounds like an empty can with rocks<--wont pass smog and I'm close to 3 months past due), at least a 19" length Magnaflow<-- bigger = deeper tone and not so "ricey"...aside from the cost of the headers, my muffler guy is only going to hit me for about $360.00. <--includes the cost of the cat and muffler. He'll custom bend all the pipe back up towards the body to compensate for the 2" BL I'm putting on. Then to the smog man so I can finally drive it..Legaly. I still have so much more to do..... Great job though on yours.. -Ted __________________ MODS: OME901 rear <--(gained 3" on the worn stock coils), BJ spacers 1.5", Diff Drop kit, lowered front sway bar brackets, ALLPROOFFROAD rear extended brake line, drilled air cleaner, R/C shocks, RB track bar bracket, lockright'd, Hankook DynaPro M/T 35's, cranked T-Bars....and the list goes on.

11-04-2009, 07:25 PM	#121 (permalink)
snowshredder555 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, So.Cal Posts: 28	Thanks for the info....good to know the instructions have actual recomendations. I hope I didn't offend you by the ricey comment... My buddy had an Acura Integra with a Flowmaster on it and I thought that sounded pretty bad a$$... but then he was 19 at the time and it was only his 2nd car. Again, he had to drive it not me. I prefer a more mellow tone, but something that really comes to life when you romp the throttle...and Magnaflow has met this criteria for my last 5 vehicles. And the straight flow through design releases all back pressure created by most MFG.'d mufflers. Currently on my 04' F-150 5.4, I have a 21" Magnaflow and it works perfectly...only took 4 different mufflers before I went back with the tried and true Magnaflow. By Leaks, I ment...some header flanges become warped if not heat cycled and retorqued properly and even then they still might warp...the JBA's on my F150 are warped...I paid someone else to do the install...now I'm paying the price for it with a really nice exhaust leak. They need to be machined and then reinstalled...correctly. In the instructions did they DT list the loctite sealent you used? Just curious... -Ted __________________ MODS: OME901 rear <--(gained 3" on the worn stock coils), BJ spacers 1.5", Diff Drop kit, lowered front sway bar brackets, ALLPROOFFROAD rear extended brake line, drilled air cleaner, R/C shocks, RB track bar bracket, lockright'd, Hankook DynaPro M/T 35's, cranked T-Bars....and the list goes on. Last edited by snowshredder555; 11-04-2009 at 07:37 PM.

11-04-2009, 07:56 PM	#123 (permalink)
johnj87 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	im jealous!!!!! that is so sick, i didnt even think the speedo could climb that fast in a 3vze ha ha

11-04-2009, 08:04 PM	#124 (permalink)
MaK92-4RnR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roseville, California ( NOR CAL ) Posts: 344	heh thanks... it'll slow down... no lift or tires yet __________________ 1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio

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