2gen 4runners lift guide - Page 2

Matt16 · 09-30-2008, 06:29 PM

The truck right measures 13.5" from the top of the rim straight up to the bottom of the fender.

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sts2usnss · 09-30-2008, 06:47 PM

So if I decided to go with the 4Crawler 2" lift using the 1.5" ball join spacers and the 2 inch coil spacers, would I need to change out to a longer shock? Or is anything else needed for that matter?

SR5 · 09-30-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sts2usnss

So if I decided to go with the 4Crawler 2" lift using the 1.5" ball join spacers and the 2 inch coil spacers, would I need to change out to a longer shock? Or is anything else needed for that matter?

yes you need their pan hard drop bracket, and you don't need new shocks right away, but you should get them soon, i recommend porcomp es9000s cheap and very good

Marc P · 09-30-2008, 09:52 PM

Having owned my 4runner for about 7 years now, I have changed the suspension a few times.....here is my history lesson...

When I first bought it, Downey was the only game in town...so I purchased some 1.5" HD coils and cranked the torsion bars to match. It had very little flex, but worked ok for the trails I was running.

Then the ball joint spacers were available from SDORI and I put them on, relaxed the torsion bars to factory specs, and went with 33x10.5 BFG's. It worked great, flexed ok, but the front was a little higher than the rear again.

I then replaced the rear coils with some FJ80 coils, and added a Panhard drop bracket. It worked good, but the truck leaned a little due to the coils being different lengths (that is how they are). So I bough another set and used both long side coils.

I ran that setup for quite a while, until the upper control arm bushings gave me issues...I ditched the IFS and completed an axle swap up front. For the rear I have basically the stock configuration with the exception of adjustable upper links, adjustable panhard bar, and OME 860 springs. Eventually I may swap the rear to leaf springs.

fillsrunner4 · 09-30-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc P

Having owned my 4runner for about 7 years now, I have changed the suspension a few times.....here is my history lesson...

When I first bought it, Downey was the only game in town.

Hold up... Marlin started his buisness in 94' Downey in the 70's with the owners love of landcruisers yes but Marlin was well in the game 7 years ago

Your rigs sick and you know it!

Marc P · 09-30-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

Hold up... Marlin started his buisness in 94' Downey in the 70's with the owners love of landcruisers yes but Marlin was well in the game 7 years ago

Your rigs sick and you know it!

But Marlin didnt have squat for IFS 4runners.....

SR5 · 09-30-2008, 10:08 PM

good post March

Matt16 · 09-30-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc P

Then the ball joint spacers were available from SDORI and I put them on, relaxed the torsion bars to factory specs, and went with 33x10.5 BFG's. It worked great, flexed ok, but the front was a little higher than the rear again.

Did you experience any idler arm failures at the height shown?

fillsrunner4 · 09-30-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc P

But Marlin didnt have squat for IFS 4runners.....

UMMMMM.......

Your final outcome was a SAS wasnt it???

Just giving you a hard time! :hilbill:

Marc P · 09-30-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt16

Did you experience any idler arm failures at the height shown?

Nope...ran a brace the whole time. I did replace the bushings a couple times.

mlrtime99 · 10-01-2008, 09:40 AM

Hey Marc, just for the sake of this being an informative thread, do you happen to remember the heights each change gave you? What problems did you have on the upper balljoint, binding/breaking? That was with stock torsion bars at the factory preset and just a 1.5" BJ spacer?

crawyota · 10-01-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SR5

^^^you might want to add BJ spacers up front to help even it out

looks great other wise

Yah , the BJ SPACERS are coming soon , getting them from SDORI.

crawyota · 10-01-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by woodendude

Like I said in PM you've nailed the look I'm after... The dealer parts guys here haven't a clue though when I asked them for a price on fj80 series rear coils, they what a part number or year. What year/s ere the 80's series land cruisers made and where they marketed in Canada ( these fools can't find it on the computer, neither could the local Parts Source guy)

WELL FOR THE COILS I looked on the classifieds of yotatech , and other toyota forums , if you get 1991 - 1997 fj/fjz80 coils they'll fit.

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Originally Posted by VK Innovations

What lift height did you get your rear shocks for? 2" or 3"?

That's the only thing I need to know to finish off my lift package

All new parts minus the 80 series coils.. I'll post the final cost once everything's in. Along with pictures of course!

the shocks i got are for 0-4" lift From ROUGH COUNTRY . I am gonna get a set of BILSTEINS though.

VK Innovations · 10-01-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crawyota

the shocks i got are for 0-4" lift From ROUGH COUNTRY . I am gonna get a set of BILSTEINS though.

I'm going to get Skyjackers for my setup for the price. They have 0-2" and 3-4"

Do I go with the 3-4" rear shocks and 2" for the fronts since the BJS's are 1.5" setup?

SR5 · 10-01-2008, 06:09 PM

id do 2" all around

VK Innovations · 10-02-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SR5

id do 2" all around

Understandable for the fronts, but for the rears too? With the 80 series coils they are 7 wrap sorry I should've clearified that. 2" still SR5? or 3"-4"?

Thanks for the help BTW.

934rnr · 10-02-2008, 06:55 AM

Thought I would add my old 4 runner
This how it sat on 33's with cruiser coils 1.5" ball joint spacers and a 1.5" Body-lift.

It was a fairly good combo and rubbing became a non issue with the body-lift

flex in the front wasn't too bad or down travel with ball spacers.
My old site for ref: http://www.cardomain.com/id/934rnr

SR5 · 10-02-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VK Innovations

Understandable for the fronts, but for the rears too? With the 80 series coils they are 7 wrap sorry I should've clearified that. 2" still SR5? or 3"-4"?

Thanks for the help BTW.

well you really only lift the front 1.5" from the original height, because your first fixing the 1.5" of sag, and then lifting it anther 1.5"
and your welcome

YeloSub7 · 10-02-2008, 08:37 PM

something people don't realize about the 4runner butt sag is that the rear fender is actually 1.5" lower on the body than the front. Check it our for yourselves, compare it to the otehr body lines. Just gives the illusion on sag. But yess some of th rearr worn springs do sag a bit, maybe .5" or so, but the fender difference just exagerates the sag.

SR5 · 10-02-2008, 09:06 PM

^^ ya i noticed that today

elripster · 10-03-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

WOW weres the real lift kits???

SAS kits!
Marlin

Trail gear

Allpro

Rear kits

Offroad solutions SAS coils

Just to add a few!

Would you mind appending with real prices for those real kits? I think it's great to get all the kits in one place but without prices it's hard for someone to make a decision.

Frank

fillsrunner4 · 10-03-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elripster

Would you mind appending with real prices for those real kits? I think it's great to get all the kits in one place but without prices it's hard for someone to make a decision.

Frank

Check out each company website for prices! its not much more than IFS lifts. and well worth it! Price varies between 400-2k and also depends on what you get from the kit

Oly396R · 10-08-2008, 07:45 PM

I was looking into 2" BJ Spacers for my 88 Pickup, I can clear my 33x10.50s no problem, but since shes a street queen (

) I wanted to have that little more lift. I was wondering if there are and problems with the Toytech Spacers, and the CV joint, with the changed angles and whatnot. Thanks!

SR5 · 10-09-2008, 08:19 PM

^^ no you'll be fine

Alex 400 · 10-09-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SR5

^^ no you'll be fine

hmmmmm, I don't know. 2" is a tall ball joint spacer. Unless he lowers his torsion bars quite a bit, he is going to run the risk of pushing his CV's past there range of travel. Even more so than 1.5" BJ spacers.

09-30-2008, 06:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
sts2usnss Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 240	So if I decided to go with the 4Crawler 2" lift using the 1.5" ball join spacers and the 2 inch coil spacers, would I need to change out to a longer shock? Or is anything else needed for that matter? __________________ 1990 4Runner, 31X10.50 Treadwright MTG's, Flowmaster exhaust, Skyjacker Nitro shocks, K&N filter, Weston push bar. I got your Jeep thing...Now it hurts when I pee.

09-30-2008, 09:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,736	Having owned my 4runner for about 7 years now, I have changed the suspension a few times.....here is my history lesson... When I first bought it, Downey was the only game in town...so I purchased some 1.5" HD coils and cranked the torsion bars to match. It had very little flex, but worked ok for the trails I was running. Then the ball joint spacers were available from SDORI and I put them on, relaxed the torsion bars to factory specs, and went with 33x10.5 BFG's. It worked great, flexed ok, but the front was a little higher than the rear again. I then replaced the rear coils with some FJ80 coils, and added a Panhard drop bracket. It worked good, but the truck leaned a little due to the coils being different lengths (that is how they are). So I bough another set and used both long side coils. I ran that setup for quite a while, until the upper control arm bushings gave me issues...I ditched the IFS and completed an axle swap up front. For the rear I have basically the stock configuration with the exception of adjustable upper links, adjustable panhard bar, and OME 860 springs. Eventually I may swap the rear to leaf springs. __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

09-30-2008, 10:08 PM	#32 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 615	good post March __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile

10-01-2008, 06:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 615	id do 2" all around __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile

10-02-2008, 06:55 AM	#42 (permalink)
934rnr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: S. Burlington, VT Posts: 1,240	Thought I would add my old 4 runner This how it sat on 33's with cruiser coils 1.5" ball joint spacers and a 1.5" Body-lift. It was a fairly good combo and rubbing became a non issue with the body-lift flex in the front wasn't too bad or down travel with ball spacers. My old site for ref: http://www.cardomain.com/id/934rnr __________________ 86 Toyota 4 runner Soild front axle, 35x12.5 BFG KM2's, winch, blah blah blah.... http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-new-red-snappah-152938/ My cardomain page Last edited by 934rnr; 10-02-2008 at 07:04 AM.

10-01-2008, 09:40 AM	#36 (permalink)
mlrtime99 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 51	Hey Marc, just for the sake of this being an informative thread, do you happen to remember the heights each change gave you? What problems did you have on the upper balljoint, binding/breaking? That was with stock torsion bars at the factory preset and just a 1.5" BJ spacer?

10-02-2008, 08:37 PM	#44 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 897	something people don't realize about the 4runner butt sag is that the rear fender is actually 1.5" lower on the body than the front. Check it our for yourselves, compare it to the otehr body lines. Just gives the illusion on sag. But yess some of th rearr worn springs do sag a bit, maybe .5" or so, but the fender difference just exagerates the sag. __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-35" BFG M/T-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders-TG Front Bumper SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

10-02-2008, 09:06 PM	#45 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 615	^^ ya i noticed that today __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile

10-09-2008, 08:19 PM	#49 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 615	^^ no you'll be fine __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile

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