22RE swap options
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22RE swap options
Does anyone know what toyota engines will bolt to my 1989 stock 5 spd/ 4x4 in place of my 22re? How about a link to toyota engines and compatible transmission bell housings? I have been searching for days. There are so many posts from people who are clueless, that it is impossible to find good info. I can fabricate anything else I need to make a swap work (i.e. motor mounts, exhaust, cooling, etc.). Yes, I can do the electronics too. All I need to know is what engines will bolt to my tranny. I know the 22re is great and dependable, but it can't turn 36 inch tires and I am not putting in lower gears than I already have. I am not worried about breaking drivetrain parts because I have plenty of spares and it will give me a reason to put in stronger parts. Whoever can come up with an intelligent answer might be able to get a good, low mile 22Re real cheap. I am not always this bitter, just frustrated. Thanks for the help!!
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The inline 6 engines from the Supras purportedly bolt up with maybe a bellhousing swap and some other fab. Higher hp might require a transmission swap.
Check out www.supracharged.com.
Some GM V6 and V8 engines as well as some Fords can be put in front of the trans also.
Check out www.northwestoffroad.com/parts/engineswap.html
Check out www.supracharged.com.
Some GM V6 and V8 engines as well as some Fords can be put in front of the trans also.
Check out www.northwestoffroad.com/parts/engineswap.html
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Like what was posted already only the 20R or 22R is a direct swap. Any other engines and you will have to do at least a bell housing swap. The 2.7 has 150hp and only needs some small mods for it work.
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Finally. Some good help. I think I am going in the right direction now. I know that toyota used the 22RE in many other cars. Some of these cars had other options for motors, which leads me to believe that there must be other motors that have the same bell housing pattern. I have heard rumors as well, that some of the Supra motors match up. I believe there were Supras with 22REs, which leads me to believe this is true. I want to keep the transmission I have, as I have spares coming out of my ears. As for gears, this truck gets driven on the highway quite a bit, and I am already at 3500 RPM at 65 in 5th gear. I am not putting gears in lower than I have now. I will spend the money on a SBC swap in order to keep my trans before I start buying other transmissions to match a different motor. Transmissions aren't cheap. Thanks again for all you help.
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2.7?? What motor is this? I am not looking for alot more horsepower, I am looking to get a little HP cheap to keep the 36's rolling. If I have to spend more than 2000 on a motor, than I am just going to dump the 350 in that I have sitting in my garage. I will have to look at my trannies and see if any of them have removable bell housings. I believe they are all one piece.
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http://advanceadapters.com/product/2212/712560.html
With that bellhousing you can bolt a SBC to a W-56 series transmission.
With that bellhousing you can bolt a SBC to a W-56 series transmission.
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I have already put the lowest gears I desire into it. As I said in a previous post, at 65 in 5th gear I am at 3500 RPM and I drive it on the highway quite a bit.
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The 5MGE is about 145 HP / 155 torque, about 50% more power than the 22re.
The 7MGE is about 200 HP / 195 torque, nearly double the 22re.
The 7MGTE is about 230 HP / 245 torque.
One problem you might encounter with any engine swap is the fact that you're turning 3500 @ 65. You'll turn that RPM with any engine you mate to your driveline unless you regear.
I'm not sure you'd want to run a 350 down the highway at 3500 for any extended length of time.
The 7MGE is about 200 HP / 195 torque, nearly double the 22re.
The 7MGTE is about 230 HP / 245 torque.
One problem you might encounter with any engine swap is the fact that you're turning 3500 @ 65. You'll turn that RPM with any engine you mate to your driveline unless you regear.
I'm not sure you'd want to run a 350 down the highway at 3500 for any extended length of time.
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The 2.7 sounds good, and I am looking for some conversions already done to see what I need. So far, no leads. If I do go with the small block, I will just move up to 38's with a little fender trimmage. The gears I have in it now are 4.88:1. The main reason I want more horsepower (new motor) vs. smaller gears is explained here-http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/horsepower_vs_torque/index.html. Going lower will give me the torque to help me get 'em spinning (burnouts, crawling) but I need the horsepower to sustain highway speeds on the way to work, and to keep the large rotating masses turning across my favorite mud pit. If I don't find a simple upgrade and have to go with the SBC, I will make alot of changes, including more body lift because I am not fighting to fit exhaust. Additionally, if I am going to spend that kind of money, it is going to be a frame-off job. As for my tranny, It looks like the bell housing unbolts from inside, but is changeable. Anyone know if the 2.7's tranny bellhousing bolts in its place or if there is an adapter? I have access to a CNC machine, so making one is no big deal, but I would rather buy one than take everything apart just to take measurements. Thanks again guys. I knew everyone on here couldn't be FOS!!
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I read back through my posts after talking with my brother and I should clear up some confusion. I have 33's on it now running down the highway at 65/ 3500RPM. I want to run 36's with a simple swap. Additionally, my brother reminded me I traded him the 4.88's and lockers for 5.29 3rd members he had when I was trying to turn the 36's 2 years ago. I don't remember what RPM it was in 5th with the 36's on it, and I think it was because it couldn't even get up and going that fast. The 36's having been sitting in my garage for two years, and I am "tired" (get it) of working around them. If I remember correctly, I think I got it up around 65 going down I-81 towards Wilkes Barre PA back then, and it was still right around (possibly just under)3 grand. I am pretty sure I did that after my bro and I swapped rears.