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Old 04-05-2007, 12:13 AM   #1
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22r turbo upgrade?

well i just got an 88 4runner 22r and im loving it. but it seems to be a bit under powered espically for mountian highway driving (which i do plenty of)

i was wondering how difficult it was to get a turbo kit for the 22r that would come with all the nessisary components (turbo, lower compression pistons, whatever kind of fuel management, ect...)

another alternative ive found is doing a 22rte swap, are those engines pretty rare? and are there any good importers with online catalogs to browse?

any help or knowledge would be appreiciated.

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Old 04-05-2007, 12:28 AM   #2
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welcome, ya theres several online catalogs-downey is one and for the life of me im having a brain fart- but there are several
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:39 AM   #3
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There aren't any real kits per say to do a turbo swap

talk to a guy named dcgw??..forget the odd # after his name. im sure it'll come up in a 'turbo' search. He's got a web site about the conversion as well.. tho i couldnt tell you the name, to late, to tired, cant remember.

odds are he'll reply here anyway. hehe

You have an 88 4x4 with the 22R or the 22RE? That makes a BIG difference when you're talkin about turbos =)
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You're pretty good with those odds.

I don't like Downey - my personal opinion...

There are two places to get a turbo "kit":
1) Rick @ Fullboogie.net
2) LC Engineering

I'll let you do your own research in regard to the cost of a kit, but it's not inexpensive.

I've done a turbo "conversion" much like what you're talking about, which is much more cost effective. There are ways to do it and keep the cost down, like running 22rte pistons which don't cost any more than stock pistons. The basic formula is:
1) 22rte pistons, 22re head
2) Turbo manifold, 22rte or aftermarket manifold
3) CT26 or garrett turbo (my recommendations)
4) Plumbing for oil line, pulled off the passenger side block on the 22re.
5) Welded oil pan for turbo drain.
6) Fuel management

You can go overboard from there (like me) - but that's the basic formula.

Fuel management: The least expensive stand alone option is megasquirt, but you CAN use a 22RTE ECU and have it work - it will accept some tweeking at the AFM, but it's not really tunable. Other EFI systems are FAST and SDS, both pretty high dollar.
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i have a totally complete 22rte motor. it need to be rebuilt. the short block is there. its been sitting awhile with out a head on it. the head has a couple small cracks in it (no good). the wiring is complete and uncut. the computer is there. the turbo, intake, and exhaust manifold are all there too. i plan on ebaying this setup. i will include the toyota EFI TURBO emblems, and the instument cluster with the turbo light. Everything for a complete motor is there. my ebay user name suprafastcelica98. i'll post a link when i list it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:10 PM   #6
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To back what dcg9381 said (and all based on prices from www.engnbldr.com)

turbo pistons: $70 vs $54 for non-turbo (ooooh...$16!) For a little added security you could have a machine shop knock a few cc's off the top to drop the compression even more(if using a 22RE head).

turbo gasket set: $68 vs $54 for non-turbo (better HG plus some extra gaskets for the stock turbo)

turbo oil pump: $55 vs $48 for non-turbo (little higher volume, but not a "real" turbo pump)

Manifold: how much do you want to spend? You can find a stock manifold and make a CT-26 fit it(enlarge some mounting holes), or build an adapter to mount a T3. There are a few companies out there that make turbo manifolds and headers.

Personally I'm finding the biggest "cost" is the little stuff. It's easy to budget for the big stuff like manifolds, turbos, pistons, heads, etc. But once you have everything and are trying to put it together: lots of little cost start popping up.

For example: the 22RTE block uses an M12x1.25 hollow bolt as the turbo oil feed line. Earls makes a fitting that will go from that to a regular AN fitting, but it's $26us for one fitting, not including the line. I got an oil feed line made up for me using the stock bolt and banjo fitting silver sodered onto an AN fitting with a stainess line: $48(Cdn).
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i have a totally complete 22rte motor. it need to be rebuilt. the short block is there. its been sitting awhile with out a head on it. the head has a couple small cracks in it (no good). the wiring is complete and uncut. the computer is there. the turbo, intake, and exhaust manifold are all there too. i plan on ebaying this setup.

This is how I did my build. I bought a "core" 22RTE motor for $150. Basically a longblock that needed rebuild. No ECU.
The only real advantage to using the 22RTE block is that it's pre-setup with an oil feed and oil drain on the correct side of the motor. Oh yea.. And you can build it up while your 4runner is on the road.

With the 22RTE EFI, if you're looking for a "budget" setup, this could be the way to go as the stock EFI will provide enough fuel for a basic low-boost turbo setup... It runs out of steam quickly, but it's a big leg up over the power available with the 22RE.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:28 PM   #8
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I love these threads.

I really want to turbo my runner but I know neither it or I am ready.

My plan goes like this:
First I'm concentrating on resolving all the little issues a $600 runner has. It's getting close but I'm not done yet.
-Suspension needs to be redone.
-Rust removal and bodywork.
-Paint.
-New tires and possibly gearing depending on tire selection.

After that's done I'll start saving and will then begin building a spare engine intended for boost.

When I have my runner where I want it and my spare engine built I will install whatever turbo system I decide upon on my current engine and will then tune the old block so I screw anything up it's not the old tired motor. Then when I'm confidant in the tune I'll install the new motor and hopefully have the option to run more boost.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:18 AM   #9
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about the same question....
I have a 86 basic 22r pickup. all stock as fare as the motor goes except for the webber carb upgrade.
Can a turbo be installed with out a complete motor swap?

yes i know it's a old thread but i'm ok with that. lol

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Old 07-20-2010, 09:59 AM   #10
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I am looking to boost power output of my 22r and have been thinking about several options, but have been leaning toward building up my 22r with turbo conversion. What I worry about is turbo lag at low RPM while wheeling. What do you guys think is the best boost option for the 22r, turbo or belt driven? I see there are several options out there. Everyone wants to sell you lots of fancy equipment so its hard to tell whats worth it and whats snake oil.
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i had a ebay .68 hot side ar turbo that was full boost by 2200rpm.
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Anybody know a good place to get a full gasket kit for a 22rte?
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Who thinks they have a fast 22r I would like to talk to them
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does anybody think u could run low ..boost on a stock 22re with intercooler and bigger injectors????
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cab turbo emblems????? sell me!!!!!!
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Success?????

hey, i am looking to do this swap on my 95 pickup. i have a full turbo kit and am building an oil cooling/filtration system so I can use my trucks oil pump to push the oil.

has anyone done the conversion on a 22re successfully?

not looking to make it fast but I live in the mountains so I hate having to go to third to climb hills.

I'm as open to any info you can provide as a desperate bisexual transvestite hooker in whore house.

PS I am in Nevada so whore house is a statement of location not a derogatory term.

Thanks for any info or comments your willing to provide.
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I really hope you have lots of$$$$$

Horse power gains on this engine are so very expensive for very little gain.

Best of luck!!

I can only guess that a manifold made for a carb has to be expensive
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