1UZ-FE or not to 1UZ-FE, that is the question.

1989toy4wd · 09-24-2007, 10:00 AM

I want to ask you all for you alls advise on something, my 22RE is running great, but It burns a lot of oil, and last oil change I found metal in the pan. Im not going to do anything untill the engine completely dies, but I want to ask you all and see what yall think.

I want a little more power out of my truck, but I dont know if its going to be worth all of the extra work to drop a 1UZFE in it. I mean I love the 22RE but sometimes its a little underpowered. Also I know that my transmission wont hold up to the extra power of the V8.

Now I dont want people to tell me to just drop a 350 in it cause I want to keep the truck all toyota. I also want to keep the transmission a stick.

I know I would have to do a body lift to fit the engine under the hood too and I hate body lifts. But a cowl induction hood is out of the question.

Or do you think I should just rebuild the 22RE and add some performance mods to it?

Which toyota standard transmission would hold up to the power?

spaceycayce · 09-24-2007, 10:42 AM

There are a few build up threads on here about it. Also check out http://lextreme.com/forums/index.php?
http://www.uzswap.com/forum/index.php?www
for more information about this swap, a few from this board run these/frequent them and I got these links off another thread here and have been researching the swap myself. My issue is with the transmission/t-cases, my tranny is Auto, but it is has some metal as well and I haven't flushed it yet, I just baby it and change the fluid/filter/etc. I'm waiting to see what goes 1st my 3.0 or the tranny. There is about 130k miles on it.

1989toy4wd · 09-24-2007, 10:55 AM

Yeah mines t 146k on it, my trans was just rebuilt too, thats another factor in this swap.

I like the 22re I just want to know if its worth the work and the little bit more power for all the work required!

Tim_Snapple76 · 09-24-2007, 03:05 PM

i'd rebuild the 22re or bolt in a new one. sell the old kinda thing. thats me though.open the exhaust, better air filter, cam, good spark plugs, wires/cap/rotor, and you'll have a motor last you another 200k miles.

stormin94 · 09-24-2007, 07:05 PM

I started a thread not too different than this one, it turns out that the 1UZ-FE 4.0 V6 is a very tall motor, so you may have to install a large amount of body lift, and/or custom fab a hood that will fit your needs. Also, the 1UZ is pretty expensive.

SoCalWheeler71 · 09-24-2007, 07:29 PM

1) Don't listen to the rednecks- keep it all Yota!
2) Ill also be looking at this swap when the ol' 3.0 gives up the ghost. I will be buying a wrecked SC400, I'd like to do the vvti version. I'm willing to put in the extra work, but I have a lot more resources than most ppl. For the tranny I'm planning on running either the Lexus auto with a Yota gear driven case adapted behind it; if this isn't possible plan B would be a 4wd Tundra tranny. These trannies will hold up, have the correct stall & ratios for this motor, and will be the least amount of wiring headache. I'm an auto guy so this works for me, if you have to have a manual you may be in for a lot of headache. I know that custom bellhousings and flywheels are availble from Australia, and they're expensive. I think they say that the (R150???) turbo trans will hold up, is that the one in the turbo supras ? I think over at Lextreme they have said that there are still computer issues to be worked out for the manual also. IMO just swapping in a rebuilt 22RE is your easiest route, but ultimately the decision is yours whether you want to tackle a big swap.

drew303 · 09-24-2007, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormin94

I started a thread not too different than this one, it turns out that the 1UZ-FE 4.0 V6 is a very tall motor, so you may have to install a large amount of body lift, and/or custom fab a hood that will fit your needs. Also, the 1UZ is pretty expensive.

V6 eh? ;-D

stormin94 · 09-24-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew303

V6 eh? ;-D

I thought that was the V6? Sometimes I get all those codes mixed up... Oh well...

sdstud212001 · 09-24-2007, 10:15 PM

If the v8 is too tall why not consider a 3.4L v6 from a tacoma or 4runner

stormin94 · 09-25-2007, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew303

V6 eh? ;-D

I was thinking of the 1GR-FE. I think that's the 4.0 V6.

FingerMan20 · 09-25-2007, 02:01 AM

A 1UZ in a Reg. Cab truck would be nuts. Didn't a mod on this site put one in his 2nd gen. runner?

mt_goat · 09-25-2007, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FingerMan20

A 1UZ in a Reg. Cab truck would be nuts. Didn't a mod on this site put one in his 2nd gen. runner?

Yeah, Cebby. And last I saw he still hadn't been able to finsh it, lots of custom fabrication with fitting that engine in our trucks. It isn't nearly as simple as dropping in a 5VZ.

I'll look for his thread.

Edit: Here it is,
http://www.yotatech.com/f88/1uzfe-sw...4runner-54771/

tj884Rdlx · 09-25-2007, 05:55 AM

The write up on Twisty's 2nd gen with 1uz is really great. here's the link:
http://www.uzswap.com/forum/index.php?topic=37.15

I have a 90 LS400 with 1UZ and i will highly endorse this motor. I bought it with 165k and 5 years later it now has 240k miles and is the best motor i've ever dealt with in any of my dozen vehicles (short of my yamaha 1100).

good luck if you choose to go this route.

mt_goat · 09-25-2007, 06:12 AM

Yeah Twisty is here too:
http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-lexu...version-76701/

notanymore · 09-25-2007, 03:23 PM

rember the $$ in doing a swap compared to rebuilding the 22re, i rebuilt mine with lc headers and a cam from engnbldr for about $900 doing most all the labor myself, except for the machine work. but if you can afford it go for the1uz-fe or possible the 3.4 because the power will be awesome compared to the 22re

1989toy4wd · 09-27-2007, 10:47 AM

I already have and exhaust and everything.

I just want my truck to have that BIG truck sound, you know out of the exhaust.

I was thinking about the 5vze too, but I would have to get a new tranmission and everything anyway so why not just do it big!!

Anyone think the r150f would last behind a 1uz?

I have some time to think about it, I am just looking ahead!

09-24-2007, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 548	1UZ-FE or not to 1UZ-FE, that is the question. I want to ask you all for you alls advise on something, my 22RE is running great, but It burns a lot of oil, and last oil change I found metal in the pan. Im not going to do anything untill the engine completely dies, but I want to ask you all and see what yall think. I want a little more power out of my truck, but I dont know if its going to be worth all of the extra work to drop a 1UZFE in it. I mean I love the 22RE but sometimes its a little underpowered. Also I know that my transmission wont hold up to the extra power of the V8. Now I dont want people to tell me to just drop a 350 in it cause I want to keep the truck all toyota. I also want to keep the transmission a stick. I know I would have to do a body lift to fit the engine under the hood too and I hate body lifts. But a cowl induction hood is out of the question. Or do you think I should just rebuild the 22RE and add some performance mods to it? Which toyota standard transmission would hold up to the power? __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers. Daily driver & tow vehicle: 03 Silverado 4.8 ext cab Take a look at my truck: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=100367 My build up thread: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-89-p...thread-156429/ Not much there yet but just wait!!!

09-24-2007, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
spaceycayce Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles/New Mexico Posts: 342	There are a few build up threads on here about it. Also check out http://lextreme.com/forums/index.php? http://www.uzswap.com/forum/index.php?www for more information about this swap, a few from this board run these/frequent them and I got these links off another thread here and have been researching the swap myself. My issue is with the transmission/t-cases, my tranny is Auto, but it is has some metal as well and I haven't flushed it yet, I just baby it and change the fluid/filter/etc. I'm waiting to see what goes 1st my 3.0 or the tranny. There is about 130k miles on it. __________________ ME:1995 4Runner Auto 3.0L v6, SAS'd, lots of other goodies. Wife:1999 Subaru Forrester AWD (which is loads of fun in the snow). 1999 Tacoma 2wd TRD package-sold for the 4runner in 2003 1998 Subaru Forrester-died 2004 1990 Honda Accord- sold in 1998 1975 Buick Regal-died in 1994 Last edited by spaceycayce : 09-24-2007 at 10:43 AM.

09-24-2007, 10:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 548	Yeah mines t 146k on it, my trans was just rebuilt too, thats another factor in this swap. I like the 22re I just want to know if its worth the work and the little bit more power for all the work required! __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers. Daily driver & tow vehicle: 03 Silverado 4.8 ext cab Take a look at my truck: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=100367 My build up thread: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-89-p...thread-156429/ Not much there yet but just wait!!!

09-24-2007, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tim_Snapple76 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SouthEast Arkansas Posts: 156	i'd rebuild the 22re or bolt in a new one. sell the old kinda thing. thats me though.open the exhaust, better air filter, cam, good spark plugs, wires/cap/rotor, and you'll have a motor last you another 200k miles. __________________ 91 sr5 3SLOW auto xtra cab 4x4 : K&N air filter, isr mod, new exhaust, rebuilt tranny @ 237k miles. 31x10.5x15 dayton mt, combo kit brush guard with kc lights, 20% tinted windows all around, panasonic cd player & all new speakers, max 4 seat covers & floor mats, sirius satellite radio. Running strong @ 250k miles. Headgasket replaced @ 239k miles.

09-24-2007, 07:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,281	I started a thread not too different than this one, it turns out that the 1UZ-FE 4.0 V6 is a very tall motor, so you may have to install a large amount of body lift, and/or custom fab a hood that will fit your needs. Also, the 1UZ is pretty expensive. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 208,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 14/19 MPG city/hwy(before 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

09-24-2007, 07:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
SoCalWheeler71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 130	1) Don't listen to the rednecks- keep it all Yota! 2) Ill also be looking at this swap when the ol' 3.0 gives up the ghost. I will be buying a wrecked SC400, I'd like to do the vvti version. I'm willing to put in the extra work, but I have a lot more resources than most ppl. For the tranny I'm planning on running either the Lexus auto with a Yota gear driven case adapted behind it; if this isn't possible plan B would be a 4wd Tundra tranny. These trannies will hold up, have the correct stall & ratios for this motor, and will be the least amount of wiring headache. I'm an auto guy so this works for me, if you have to have a manual you may be in for a lot of headache. I know that custom bellhousings and flywheels are availble from Australia, and they're expensive. I think they say that the (R150???) turbo trans will hold up, is that the one in the turbo supras ? I think over at Lextreme they have said that there are still computer issues to be worked out for the manual also. IMO just swapping in a rebuilt 22RE is your easiest route, but ultimately the decision is yours whether you want to tackle a big swap. __________________ 1993 4Runner 4wd 3vze Auto w/Factory 31's 4.88's 1987 4Runner SR5 22re Auto SAS'd 35" MTR's Lockers 5.29's First Yota- 1988 4wd Pickup 22re 5spd 31's

09-24-2007, 10:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
sdstud212001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Split time between Flagstaff & Kingman AZ Posts: 1,503	If the v8 is too tall why not consider a 3.4L v6 from a tacoma or 4runner __________________ 1987 DLX 4X4 5 Speed: Electric Flex-a-Lite,SR5 guages,Yokohama Geolander A/T+ II,Pro Comp AAL, KC Slimlites, Bull Bar, Aux fuse box, Limo Tint, Marlin Crawler Bumper, painted shell, Sirius Wish List: Safari Rack,Bigger tires, SDORI BJ Spacers, 2001 Limited 4X4 Auto:Tundra 231mm brake upgrade, Brembo Rotors, Akebono Pads, 17" 2007 4Runner wheels, Yokohama Geolander AT-S,Sirius & Limo tint Wish List: TJM Front Bumper, KC Hilites, Safari Roof Rack, Thule Cargo Box, Rock sliders, Limo Tint

09-25-2007, 02:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
FingerMan20 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 302	A 1UZ in a Reg. Cab truck would be nuts. Didn't a mod on this site put one in his 2nd gen. runner? __________________ 1998 Tacoma Standard Cab 4x4 -5 Speed -2.7L 3RZ-FE -80,000 Miles -custom ISR Mod -Purolator Fuel Filter -Royal Purple -Marlin Crawler Shift Stuff -Lots of Plans -No Money

09-25-2007, 05:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
tj884Rdlx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ATL! Posts: 182	The write up on Twisty's 2nd gen with 1uz is really great. here's the link: http://www.uzswap.com/forum/index.php?topic=37.15 I have a 90 LS400 with 1UZ and i will highly endorse this motor. I bought it with 165k and 5 years later it now has 240k miles and is the best motor i've ever dealt with in any of my dozen vehicles (short of my yamaha 1100). good luck if you choose to go this route.

09-25-2007, 06:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,447	Yeah Twisty is here too: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-lexu...version-76701/ __________________ Dale 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

09-25-2007, 03:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
notanymore Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wenatchee WA Posts: 958	rember the $$ in doing a swap compared to rebuilding the 22re, i rebuilt mine with lc headers and a cam from engnbldr for about $900 doing most all the labor myself, except for the machine work. but if you can afford it go for the1uz-fe or possible the 3.4 because the power will be awesome compared to the 22re __________________ my truck: 1987 pickup xtra cab sr5 22re 5 speed 4wd, 31x10.5's eb 261c cam, lce header, 2.25 exhaust. other ride: 1980 Honda CX500-

09-27-2007, 10:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 548	I already have and exhaust and everything. I just want my truck to have that BIG truck sound, you know out of the exhaust. I was thinking about the 5vze too, but I would have to get a new tranmission and everything anyway so why not just do it big!! Anyone think the r150f would last behind a 1uz? I have some time to think about it, I am just looking ahead! __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers. Daily driver & tow vehicle: 03 Silverado 4.8 ext cab Take a look at my truck: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=100367 My build up thread: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-89-p...thread-156429/ Not much there yet but just wait!!!

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