1st gen roll bar 2nd gen 4runner install with pics

olharleyman · 12-30-2007, 03:27 AM

Well today I figured out how to install the 1gen roll bar into my 2nd gen 4runner and have a few pictures and some advise for those looking to do this install as well.

The first thing I learned is doing it by yourself is not happening you will definitely need someone to help.

The next thing I learned is going through the tailgate is not happening either the easiest and only way to do it is through the rear drivers side door well might go the same from passenger side as well I used the drivers side.

Here's the way to do it (or the way I did it and it worked great)

After cutting 2 1/4" s off all four legs turn the roll bar upside down so that the roof side is laying on the floor. Grab your helper and have him/her go to the other side of the truck and open the rear door and help slide the roll bar completely inside and remove that side's seatbelt as both of them need to be removed , A 14 mm socket will do it also make sure you both put the seatbelt on the same side of the rollbar.

Now that the roll bar is fully inside the rear of the truck slowly slide it back toward the wheel well and start rotating it into the standing position it will fight and your helper has to keep pace with you and it will fight you all the way but once you have it turned into position it's all sweet and well worth it just looking at it setting there , it may only be for BLING but boy doe's it BLING well.

I belive if you do this and don't have the speaker's in place like I do it should be no problem and no need to take out the side panels and you maybe even able to weld your mounting feet on outside but with my speakers I had to weld mine up inside. You may also want to weld them inside as well because the front feet will have a bit of an angle to them from the wheel well so just pull your carpet up set it and wed away.

I also for got I had my camera with me till my buddy told me it was sitting on the front seat so all the pictures are after the rolling into place part VERY SORRY. You may also want to trace a set of plates and cut them to match the feet for the bar so you can mount the nuts on the bottom on a steel plate and not run the risk of pulling them throught the floor and ruining that part of the floors.

So now on to the pictures!

The first thing to do is drop the rear seats and push the front seats all the way forward and tilt them forward as well that little bit of room makes all the differance.

My friend Danny checking things out after getting the roll bar in place not set yet

Seeing what Danny's seeing

Danny jumping in and doing some welding because he wanted to help and get in on the fun

Almost done all set to match side to side and from the end of the roll bar to the edge of the tailgate

Now I just need to get some por 15 to make it a beautiful piece of TOYOTA HISTORY

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Dublin · 12-30-2007, 04:02 AM

Nice!

Elton · 12-30-2007, 04:35 AM

looks good

**waskillywabbit** · 12-30-2007, 07:05 AM

Looks good, but I know why you couldn't fit the rollbar in the tailgate...look at all that crap in your cargo area!

Yep, gotta sneak in the doors as the roll bar won't go through the tailgate and it is much easier to weld the feet on outside the vehicle due to room and setting the carpet on fire.

CASTAIC 4RUNNER · 12-30-2007, 08:09 AM

AWESOME

olharleyman · 12-30-2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Looks good, but I know why you couldn't fit the rollbar in the tailgate...look at all that crap in your cargo area!

Yep, gotta sneak in the doors as the roll bar won't go through the tailgate and it is much easier to weld the feet on outside the vehicle due to room and setting the carpet on fire.

Thats not crap there it a fire prevention and suppression kit

Notice the 6 pack of water , and the p.b.blast , a couple snatch straps( incase I needed snatched out real fast

) a 3.0 90-95 repair manual

4runnerguy · 01-02-2008, 06:57 PM

nice work love the setup im gone be doin that to when i get the time

bigt · 01-02-2008, 07:26 PM

are there holes in the floor for it to bolt 2 in the gen 2?? i round a roll bar for 20 bucks and would love to use it to tie stuff to.

Marc P · 01-02-2008, 07:33 PM

I am glad you did this writeup before I installed mine....now I am not going to install it.

olharleyman · 01-02-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt

are there holes in the floor for it to bolt 2 in the gen 2?? i round a roll bar for 20 bucks and would love to use it to tie stuff to.

No there are no holes you have to drill them yourself but it's really nothing to do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc P

I am glad you did this writeup before I installed mine....now I am not going to install it.

Don't not install it it's only like a hour hour and half deal and I would rate it a 6 - 6 1/2 at the most on the difficulty scale and probably easier if you don't have the speakers in the way like I did.
The hardest thing is to get it in the rear and rolled into place and hats really not that hard just roll up your carpet mark drill and your done. By the look of things if you did that sas this will be like changing the oil.
You will be glad you did in the end its the shi* and adds a new dimension to the back of your runner and it really don't block your view but with your window down people notice it so far I have had 4 guys ask me about doing it on there's.

WCorbett · 01-03-2008, 03:38 PM

Is there a reason to cut off any of the roll bar?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-03-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WCorbett

Is there a reason to cut off any of the roll bar?

Yes, you are probably going to have to cut it to fit as the fender well to floor lengths are different from generation to generation compared to the 1st gen roll bar.

Measure 3 times and cut too long so you can trim some more if need be. You don't want to have to weld some tubing back on, just the mounting plates and probably at an angle to fit the fender well.

olharleyman · 01-03-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Yes, you are probably going to have to cut it to fit as the fender well to floor lengths are different from generation to generation compared to the 1st gen roll bar.

Measure 3 times and cut too long so you can trim some more if need be. You don't want to have to weld some tubing back on, just the mounting plates and probably at an angle to fit the fender well.

Ya what he said but I did just go right for 2 1/4" off each leg

olharleyman · 01-03-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Yes, you are probably going to have to cut it to fit as the fender well to floor lengths are different from generation to generation compared to the 1st gen roll bar.

Measure 3 times and cut too long so you can trim some more if need be. You don't want to have to weld some tubing back on, just the mounting plates and probably at an angle to fit the fender well.

I did just go right for 2 1/4" off each leg and had no issues with the fit though there was a bit of an angle to the front legs but with a couple tack welds to hold the angle it was easy to hold the angle as for the rear they where pretty much flat and not even an issue also I turned the mounting holes out to face each other or window to window just to make anchoring it a bit easier but this is a 2nd gen most likely different for a 3rd or later gen. Next I will be por-15ing it in silver maybe black not sure yet and adding a fire extinguisher to each rear leg

bigt · 01-03-2008, 05:46 PM

what size holes and what hardware did you use?

olharleyman · 01-03-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt

what size holes and what hardware did you use?

Well the holes are pre drilled into the mounting plates so i just used a step bit that matched the boltholes in the stock mount hole's , iimc they were 7/16 x 1" bolt's with nut's and lock washers on the bottom plates I made to match the top ones.

nick_8787 · 01-04-2008, 04:17 AM

So dose the roll bar go down to the frame? or just connect to the body?

olharleyman · 01-04-2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_8787

So dose the roll bar go down to the frame? or just connect to the body?

Connects only to the floor but is pretty sturdy

Booosted Supra · 01-04-2008, 12:26 PM

thats a nice write up, im going to attempt to do it to mine, hopefully it comes out just as nice=)

ewong · 01-04-2008, 12:52 PM

Can you post a pic of the bar in relation to the seat backs with the seats UP?

The reason is that I am thinking of putting a Milford cargo barrier into my Gen1 4Runner.

http://www.milfordind.com.au/shop/?p...02ed27c7c783ed

I realize that the Gen1 appears to have a "lower" floor - so thats not a huge issue.
But I want to have an idea of how the seat backs differ...

olharleyman · 01-05-2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booosted Supra

thats a nice write up, im going to attempt to do it to mine, hopefully it comes out just as nice=)

Wish you where closer I would love to do another one it may be only be concerdered a BLING factor but it's cool on so many different level's and tonight after my tour at work I put 2 fire extinguishers on it looks so cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewong

Can you post a pic of the bar in relation to the seat backs with the seats UP?

The reason is that I am thinking of putting a Milford cargo barrier into my Gen1 4Runner.

http://www.milfordind.com.au/shop/?p...02ed27c7c783ed

I realize that the Gen1 appears to have a "lower" floor - so thats not a huge issue.
But I want to have an idea of how the seat backs differ...

I will get you a couple pics tomorrow after I run to the dump and do a bit of a detail job on it plus it will show the fire extinguishers attached

Booosted Supra · 01-05-2008, 07:10 AM

i will always make a road trip haha

nick_8787 · 01-05-2008, 07:13 AM

Lets see some pics of the setup. How much was the total cost on this little project?

olharleyman · 01-05-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewong

Can you post a pic of the bar in relation to the seat backs with the seats UP?

The reason is that I am thinking of putting a Milford cargo barrier into my Gen1 4Runner.

http://www.milfordind.com.au/shop/?p...02ed27c7c783ed

I realize that the Gen1 appears to have a "lower" floor - so thats not a huge issue.
But I want to have an idea of how the seat backs differ...

Well here's a couple pic's with and without head rest installed also one side down to make sure you can get an idea if you need it with bothsides up let me know and I will get that for you tomorrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_8787

Lets see some pics of the setup. How much was the total cost on this little project?

Sorry for not getting these up sooner but I was surrounded by 100 redskins fans in DC wearing my SEAHAWKS JERSEY watching them best ass whopping this season ya I was a bit nervous but so fun getting to do the in your face dance on the table of the bar and all them redskins fans coming up shaking my hand and having to say congratulations and I bet I could get everyone here a free drink with all the bar chips I got for the win. Anyway back on track
So far without the paint I have $55 bucks into it
$35 for the rollbar
$20 for the fire extinguisher's
1 1/2hrs. into the cutting , welding , drilling and installing
1/2 into the drilling and mounting of the fire extinguisher's
So now on to the pic's and oh ya GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!

WCorbett · 01-05-2008, 10:56 PM

I like the camo bags

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Booosted Supra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Haddonfield NJ Posts: 235	thats a nice write up, im going to attempt to do it to mine, hopefully it comes out just as nice=) __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5: 36x12.5 TSL, 2` OME coils, 1.5 Sdori BJ spacers, 2` Rear Sdori coil spacers, OME nitro charged shocks, 1` custom body lift, Light Tbar crank, ISR mod, EGR block off, ARB bull bar, 5.29/Detroit locked 1989 Toyota Supra: T60 @ 22PSI 11.8, Apexi AFC, HKS VPC w/550 chip, RC 550 injectors, Lexus V8 mas air, Extreme PSI FMIC, HKS 50mm WG, Greddy type-r bov, Aeromotive AFPR, J tube block off, Fuel pulse removal, Walbaro 255h, LM-1 wideband, Unsprung 6 puck, Gutted 2900lbs

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ewong Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly PA Posts: 1,290	Can you post a pic of the bar in relation to the seat backs with the seats UP? The reason is that I am thinking of putting a Milford cargo barrier into my Gen1 4Runner. http://www.milfordind.com.au/shop/?p...02ed27c7c783ed I realize that the Gen1 appears to have a "lower" floor - so thats not a huge issue. But I want to have an idea of how the seat backs differ...

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