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Old 03-02-2009, 12:25 PM
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Question 1990 Toyota 4x4 Idleing problem

I know that this has been covered a million times but im stumped. Just recently purchased a 1990 toyota 4x4 w/3.0 v6 and manual transmition.
I have owned it now for 2 weeks, I finaly had a chance to go wheeling with some friends, however when we returned the idle started to act wierd. Before it ran great, now it wont idle below 1300 rpm and when i apply the brakes the idle surges between 1400 and 1000. I have already tried burping the cooling system, the idle screw is turned all the way in, checked oil preasure, checked and rechecked all vacumme lines. any help would be appreciated
Old 03-02-2009, 12:42 PM
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did you suck any water into the engine?

You say when you apply brakes it surges? Check out your brake booster and its vacuum lines.
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No water in engine, I did check the brake booster vacumme line it is fine, how do you test a brake booster? And i forgot to mention that sometimes when shifting the rpms shoot up yo around 3500

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I'm kind of getting this info from a Chilton's repair manual.

To test for vacuum leaks:
1.operate the engine at idle for at least one minute without touching the brake pedal.
2.turn the engine off and wait one minute.
3.lightly pump the brakes several times. each time should produce less pedal travel, if vacuum is present. If no vacuum is present, ie a leak, then it will pump without much resistance.



To test for system operation:
1.Run it at idle for a few minutes. Turn it off.
2. lightly pump the brakes until all the vacuum is gone, ie, its difficult to pump the brakes.
3.start the engine, and operate it at idle. If the system is working correctly, the pedal should "fall" to the floor if constant pressure it applied to the pedal.

something like that...
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sounds good ill try it and let you know results
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tested the brake booster and all seems to be functioning right, any other ideas????
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just replaced all vac line still doing same thing
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I just cleaned my throttle body and my truck is doing the same thing.
Idles a little high after the cleaning (I was expecting that), but I wasn't expecting the idle to drop and surge when I press on the brake pettle.

I'll have to check my vacuum ports.
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my do'es that also but it will not surge when you put it 4-wd . about to pull my hair out over this thing.. just replaced my tps and no change..
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Clean out intake and IAC
then
3 things to double check.........
Coolant level
Base timing
Base idle
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Cant get the base idle below 1300 before this happend i when it was running good i had checked the timing and it was on the money. Got idle screw all the way in and still 1300 rpm
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Originally Posted by rbissonette
Cant get the base idle below 1300 before this happend i when it was running good i had checked the timing and it was on the money. Got idle screw all the way in and still 1300 rpm
I was thinking this was a 22RE sorry,
check out this page on testing and cleaning the throttle body
http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1993/engine/93throttle.pdf
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Test your TPS out with a meter, it is really easy. I can walk you through it if you need. I just changed mine and it was an amazing improvement. If it is a vacuum problem, you will most likely feel it when accelerating, it feels like the engine stalling out or like there is a strong head wind.
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Does the coolant controlled IAC valve close when engine reaches normal operating temperture, its a valve under the throttle body.
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Make sure you have no air leaks! The surge is because the idle is mis-adjusted...
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Originally Posted by LS1Steve
Test your TPS out with a meter, it is really easy. I can walk you through it if you need. I just changed mine and it was an amazing improvement. If it is a vacuum problem, you will most likely feel it when accelerating, it feels like the engine stalling out or like there is a strong head wind.
please tell just changed my and still can't get my to stop idling up and down and no power feeling in 4th and 5th gear.
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I just got done checking compression it is as follows #1 184, #2 180, #3 182, #4 180, #5 186, #6 175

I will try to get the intake cleaned out today sometime
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Originally Posted by Zinek
Does the coolant controlled IAC valve close when engine reaches normal operating temperture, its a valve under the throttle body.
I took the throtle body off along with the intake and cleaned them both readjusted the idle control sensor how do you adjust the IAC
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you don't adjust the IAC (well, at least shouldn't- it was adjusted when it was installed on the throttle body).
For the most part, it either works or doesn't. You can, however, clean it.
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when you clean the IAC and put it all back together how far down do you tighten the nut down on the spring


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