C5VetteLS1

Hello all, I'm new to the forum and new to Toyota 4x4's as well. I'm looking for a 89 thru 94, 4x4 Pick Up. Based on advice from several friends, the 4 Cylinder is the way to go. I'm told they're much cheaper to replace/rebuild, and that I can expect the 4 Cyl to last many more miles than the 6 Cyl. I'm told that I can expect to be able to put twice the mileage on the 4 Cyl than I would get out of the 6 Cyl. Do you guys agree with this as being factual?
Thanks for your opinions,
Richard

Tofer

the 22re (4cyl) is known to be a bullet proof engine. i am not sure you'll get 2x's the milage then a 3.0 though. the 3.0 is a good motor too. the 3.0's had a head gasket problem so make sure if your looking at one check to see if the HG has been replaced.

CoedNaked

The 3.0, if maintained, considering it has way more working parts than the 22RE, is an extremely reliable motor, and I'd say it is every bit as reliable as the 22RE. The 22RE is a very simple engine to deal with, no frills, relibale as hell, but if you need any torque, look at the V6.

They are both great motors, I wouldn't have issues picking either, and they're both solid Toyota offerings. They're both workhorses. The V6 equipped trucks in general come with cooler features though - they'll have lower gears, bigger brakes, bigger tires standard (instead of having to regear to get bigger tires with the 4 cyl), the V6 has a heavier duty transmission in the R150 F, it has more torque at idle than the 22RE at it's peak, and you can find more creature comforts on the V6 than the 22RE for the most part.

I would find a well maintained truck in either engine configuration and go from there.

C5VetteLS1

Thanks guys, others opinions appreciated as well.
Thank you,
Richard

curly_c

thats all you need to know. except the 3.0 drinks gas. the 22re just sips it.

brandontrek

i get 18mpg out of my 3.0 no problem

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Bobakazi

I have driven both. They are both great motors, and there are ups and downs to both when compared to each other. The V6 has more power and torque. The 22re gets better mileage. I went for the power. They are both well-known for long life and reliability, so the replace/rebuild factor should not come anytime soon (if at all) if the previous owner treated it right. Check out the "how many miles" thread.

87TurboYota

I believe the 22RE is the better of the two engines. Both are good engines. However, the 22RE gets better gas mileage with less power but probably not enough to really make a big deal about. I know from experience 22RE is bullet proof. But I don't think you could go wrong with either of the two motors.

bob200587

The 22RE with a manual vs. a 3VZE with an Auto is no contest. The auto loses alot of the power made by the 3.0 so my feelings are, If you want to get a 3.0 get a manual otherwise, you might as well have gotten a 22RE and got better gas mileage too.

celica

I have the 3.0 & it has been great. I have also had the 22re in a celica & in a pickup. All were high milage engines. As long as it is treated right the 3.0 is great. I get 18mpg city & 22-24mpg highway. I also currently have 230,000 miles on it & never have had a problem.

MMA_Alex

the 22re's tend to have timing gear issues around 100k also. Either way you go a manaul trans is recomended

RustBucket

iTrader: (1)

Yes, manual tranny is a must. If you must have an auto, then get the V6

My V6 had 180k miles and it would get 16 city, 20 highway. It consumed a little bit of oil, and it was pretty peppy. I also drove a V6 with a 5spd and it was very quick!

My current truck with the 4cyl gets 19 city and 20-something highway. It struggles with the hills alot more than the V6 did.

One of the biggest considerations will be how much work you want to do on it yourself. As Coed said the 22re is very simple and usually easy to work on.

Personally, I went from a V6 to a 22re.

C5VetteLS1

Thank you so much guys, I really appreciate your input I don't know much about either at this point, so I needed the advise of those in the know. And this forum seems like a great source.
Thanks again,
Richard

Bobakazi

Here are some stats. I would stay with a manual transmission either way, and manual hubs.

Model Year Max Horsepower (@ RPM) Max Torque (@ RPM) Cylinders Displacement (ccm) Fuel Delivery Compression Bore (mm) Stroke (mm)

22RE 1989-1995 112@4600 142@3400 4 2366 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.3:1 92 89
3VZE 1988-1995 150@4800 180@3400 6 2958 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.0:1 87.5 90

curly_c

i really wish i knew how people were getting 16-18 MPG in the city. i get 13-14 and im mad

celica

I drive the hell out of it - it loves to rev & gives me 18mpg in the city. I used to get 19 before this set of tires (more agressive)

I have heard that even if you baby it (drive like grandma) you will not get better fuel eceonomy but I have never tried because I like to music loud & the motor going.