What Year/Model Toyota Pick Up Truck for....

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 04:48 PM

I am looking for a Toyota Pick Up Truck where the engine doesn't have any electronic components.

With an automatic, 4X4, greater than 175 HP (preferably a V6), and greater than 18 miles per gallon if possible.....

Any suggestions?

b.miller123 · 08-08-2008, 05:24 PM

You're looking for a Toyota that doesn't exist.

Good luck!

eightnine · 08-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmitch

I am looking for a Toyota Pick Up Truck where the engine doesn't have any electronic components.

With an automatic, 4X4, greater than 175 HP (preferably a V6), and greater than 18 miles per gallon if possible.....

Any suggestions?

The earliest V6 toyota 4x4 only had about 150 hp (3.0L) and is EFI (1988-1995).

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 06:01 PM

OK....how about something older then? Like the 4 Cylinder Turbo 4X4? Do I hear 150 HP and 16 MPG??? But still with no electronic components...

b.miller123 · 08-08-2008, 06:15 PM

Yeah, if you can find one. But still that is less hp and mpg than you asked for.

The things you want aren't helping each other. Any toyota that has enough power and mpg for you is going to have plenty of electronic things.

Personally I would go with a tacoma or 4runner with a 3.4 in it already, but then you have electronic components. Otherwise you could go with an older truck with a 22r and get the mpg and less or no electronics and less or no power. Try to solve that and your spending a ton of $$$ and will lose the mpg. You can always swap a domestic v8 or v6 in too, but then your mpg suffer.

See where this is going?

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 06:41 PM

OK....then how about a 4X4 with good gas mileage and no electronic components (forget the engine size and power).........but in an automatic.......

Tofer · 08-08-2008, 06:42 PM

what do you have against EFI?! if you really want to deal with vacuum lines and a carb look for a truck with a 22r 79-84 is going to be your best best, but there were available up to 87.

OR, Find your self a truck with a 22re and i'll give you my 22r in exchange for your 22re and ecu.

and learn to drive stick

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 06:56 PM

let me see what i can find in those years w/ the 22r

did they make a turbo charged w/OUT EFI?

i have to consider the auto for the wife

Tofer · 08-08-2008, 07:36 PM

The only turbo'ed truck/runner was a 22rte. EFI and turbo.

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 07:38 PM

even the turbo-diesel huh?

Spence1016 · 08-08-2008, 07:40 PM

as far as the turbo w/o efi i highly doubt that, and ive never seen an automatic that didnt have efi, theres a handful of efi automatics with the 22re

Tofer · 08-08-2008, 07:41 PM

if you want to import from the UK............. then yes you can get a turbo diesel. hell you can even get it in a V6 if i remember correctly. but good luck finding it in the states.

20twinz · 08-08-2008, 08:37 PM

Whats wrong with electronics again????....

taandctran · 08-08-2008, 08:48 PM

I know in the 84-85 models they had a deisel. I'm not sure if it a turbo. but the parts are really hard to find. and so are the trucks.

andrewmitch · 08-08-2008, 09:00 PM

I want old-world technology

4Crawler · 08-08-2008, 09:19 PM

You can drop a VW diesel engine (1.6 or 1.9 n/a or turbo, IDI engine, not the TDI) into a Toyota and have pretty basic engine. Only needs 12 volts for the fuel cutoff solenoid and the radiator fan and wiring for any senders for gauges or idiot lights as needed. A tuned up 1.9 turbo can do pretty good power and torque wise.

Although not sure if anyone makes an adapter for the automatics, they have them for the 5 speed gear box. Note that the Toyota automatics are electronic (ECT):
- http://autoshop101.com/forms/h16.pdf

You could get an older FJ40/55/60 and get a non-electronic engine, but gas mileage is not in your range. Although having owned an FJ55 with in-line-6 (F) engine and now a 4Runner w/ 22RE, I would take the 22RE any day. It is a really simple EFI setup, easy to work on and very reliable. And that engine/vehicle gets nearly twice the MPG of the old FJ55

85toy · 08-09-2008, 03:41 PM

get an old mid 70s yota pick up put the body on an early 80s yota frame, slap a v6 or small v8 in it and your good to go.

the 70s body is so you dont have to pass smog.
the 80s frame is so you have a nice srontg frame with the sraight axle under it.
and you get to chose the engine.

if you want to keep it yota then go with the 3.4l engine gets good mpg and has good power, but it has electronics.

or go with a chevy small block has tons of power and if you get the right year you wont have electronics but be prepared not to pass many gas stations.

thats all the help i can be to you.

rowdy235 · 08-09-2008, 11:19 PM

Another thing- around here at least its practically impossible to find an automatic 2wd, much less a 4x4 automatic, which IIRC, wasn't even possible until 1985?

Anyway, bottom line is, what do you want more? For example, you could get a hold of a 79-83, do some performance mods, and maybe get close to 150hp. Then you'd have little electronics, 4x4, but it would almost have to be a stick unless you swapped an automatic from a later year. Thats my suggestion.

andrewmitch · 08-10-2008, 04:42 PM

is there some resource guide where I could look up the specs of all out of production pick up trucks??

08-08-2008, 04:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	What Year/Model Toyota Pick Up Truck for.... I am looking for a Toyota Pick Up Truck where the engine doesn't have any electronic components. With an automatic, 4X4, greater than 175 HP (preferably a V6), and greater than 18 miles per gallon if possible..... Any suggestions? __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD Last edited by andrewmitch : 08-08-2008 at 04:50 PM.*

08-08-2008, 05:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
b.miller123 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Washington Posts: 536	You're looking for a Toyota that doesn't exist. Good luck! __________________ As well as fear, Chuck Norris can also detect hope. For example: "I hope I don't get a roundhouse kick to the face from Chuck Norris." 1993 Ex-cab 4x4 3.0 5spd, 140xxx mi. and counting, AND YES, IT DOES HAVE A TAPE PLAYER

08-08-2008, 06:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	OK....how about something older then? Like the 4 Cylinder Turbo 4X4? Do I hear 150 HP and 16 MPG??? But still with no electronic components... __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. *Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD

08-08-2008, 06:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
b.miller123 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Washington Posts: 536	Yeah, if you can find one. But still that is less hp and mpg than you asked for. The things you want aren't helping each other. Any toyota that has enough power and mpg for you is going to have plenty of electronic things. Personally I would go with a tacoma or 4runner with a 3.4 in it already, but then you have electronic components. Otherwise you could go with an older truck with a 22r and get the mpg and less or no electronics and less or no power. Try to solve that and your spending a ton of $$$ and will lose the mpg. You can always swap a domestic v8 or v6 in too, but then your mpg suffer. See where this is going? __________________ As well as fear, Chuck Norris can also detect hope. For example: "I hope I don't get a roundhouse kick to the face from Chuck Norris." 1993 Ex-cab 4x4 3.0 5spd, 140xxx mi. and counting, AND YES, IT DOES HAVE A TAPE PLAYER Last edited by b.miller123 : 08-08-2008 at 06:17 PM.

08-08-2008, 06:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	OK....then how about a 4X4 with good gas mileage and no electronic components (forget the engine size and power).........but in an automatic....... __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. *Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD

08-08-2008, 06:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tofer Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 5,758	what do you have against EFI?! if you really want to deal with vacuum lines and a carb look for a truck with a 22r 79-84 is going to be your best best, but there were available up to 87. OR, Find your self a truck with a 22re and i'll give you my 22r in exchange for your 22re and ecu. and learn to drive stick __________________ 3genRunner: including parts from 3 generations of 4runners, '92 pickup, '80something Land Cruiser, Chevy truck, Ford sedan 89 4runner: Project DD. 3.0, needs a new tranny 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \| quad hauler, leaks oil but gets 26mpg 91 Honda Prelude: the Daily Driver WA, OR or CA wheeler?? Check out pacific-crawlers.com and check out yotaworks.com Last edited by Tofer : 08-08-2008 at 06:45 PM.

08-08-2008, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	let me see what i can find in those years w/ the 22r did they make a turbo charged w/OUT EFI? i have to consider the auto for the wife __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD Last edited by andrewmitch : 08-08-2008 at 07:00 PM.*

08-08-2008, 07:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tofer Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 5,758	The only turbo'ed truck/runner was a 22rte. EFI and turbo. __________________ 3genRunner: including parts from 3 generations of 4runners, '92 pickup, '80something Land Cruiser, Chevy truck, Ford sedan 89 4runner: Project DD. 3.0, needs a new tranny 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \| quad hauler, leaks oil but gets 26mpg 91 Honda Prelude: the Daily Driver WA, OR or CA wheeler?? Check out pacific-crawlers.com and check out yotaworks.com

08-08-2008, 07:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	even the turbo-diesel huh? __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. *Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD

08-08-2008, 07:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Spence1016 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ft.Lauderdale, FL Posts: 310	as far as the turbo w/o efi i highly doubt that, and ive never seen an automatic that didnt have efi, theres a handful of efi automatics with the 22re __________________ 2000 4Runner Limited V6 Auto... 2wd =[[[ Sony GT510 head unit, Kenwood 1700 watt max mono amp, Two 12 inch Polk Subs in ported box, 3 farad capacitor, neons in front footwells Foglights on bottom of rear bumper Optima Yellowtop, Kc daylighters on front bumper Vortex muffler and Trueflow airfilter

08-08-2008, 07:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tofer Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 5,758	if you want to import from the UK............. then yes you can get a turbo diesel. hell you can even get it in a V6 if i remember correctly. but good luck finding it in the states. __________________ 3genRunner: including parts from 3 generations of 4runners, '92 pickup, '80something Land Cruiser, Chevy truck, Ford sedan 89 4runner: Project DD. 3.0, needs a new tranny 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \| quad hauler, leaks oil but gets 26mpg 91 Honda Prelude: the Daily Driver WA, OR or CA wheeler?? Check out pacific-crawlers.com and check out yotaworks.com

08-08-2008, 08:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
20twinz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ia Posts: 213	Whats wrong with electronics again????.... __________________ My Mind Never Stops!

08-08-2008, 08:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
taandctran Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Davie County, NC Posts: 33	I know in the 84-85 models they had a deisel. I'm not sure if it a turbo. but the parts are really hard to find. and so are the trucks.

08-08-2008, 09:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	I want old-world technology __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. *Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD

08-08-2008, 09:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,258	You can drop a VW diesel engine (1.6 or 1.9 n/a or turbo, IDI engine, not the TDI) into a Toyota and have pretty basic engine. Only needs 12 volts for the fuel cutoff solenoid and the radiator fan and wiring for any senders for gauges or idiot lights as needed. A tuned up 1.9 turbo can do pretty good power and torque wise. Although not sure if anyone makes an adapter for the automatics, they have them for the 5 speed gear box. Note that the Toyota automatics are electronic (ECT): - http://autoshop101.com/forms/h16.pdf You could get an older FJ40/55/60 and get a non-electronic engine, but gas mileage is not in your range. Although having owned an FJ55 with in-line-6 (F) engine and now a 4Runner w/ 22RE, I would take the 22RE any day. It is a really simple EFI setup, easy to work on and very reliable. And that engine/vehicle gets nearly twice the MPG of the old FJ55 __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club Last edited by 4Crawler : 08-08-2008 at 09:23 PM.

08-09-2008, 03:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
85toy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oroville California Posts: 854	get an old mid 70s yota pick up put the body on an early 80s yota frame, slap a v6 or small v8 in it and your good to go. the 70s body is so you dont have to pass smog. the 80s frame is so you have a nice srontg frame with the sraight axle under it. and you get to chose the engine. if you want to keep it yota then go with the 3.4l engine gets good mpg and has good power, but it has electronics. or go with a chevy small block has tons of power and if you get the right year you wont have electronics but be prepared not to pass many gas stations. thats all the help i can be to you. __________________ 1984 toyota pickup extended cab 4x4 couple of mods

08-09-2008, 11:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
rowdy235 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 1,374	Another thing- around here at least its practically impossible to find an automatic 2wd, much less a 4x4 automatic, which IIRC, wasn't even possible until 1985? Anyway, bottom line is, what do you want more? For example, you could get a hold of a 79-83, do some performance mods, and maybe get close to 150hp. Then you'd have little electronics, 4x4, but it would almost have to be a stick unless you swapped an automatic from a later year. Thats my suggestion. __________________ Daily Driver: 1982 Toyota Pickup Base 2WD 22R, TRD Cam,5-sp Manual, Toyota Truck Nation High Miler- 300k+ MPG: 25/32 Off-roader: 1990 Honda H3011SA Riding Lawnmower, 11hp OHV engine, Carlisle SNOW-HOG Tires MPG: 1 Day of "Wheeling" per gallon Come to the 2nd Annual Oregon Yotatech Meetup! June 26-29, 2009: Browns Camp OHV Park http://www.yotatech.com/f5/oregon-yo.../#post50902592

08-10-2008, 04:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
andrewmitch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 124	is there some resource guide where I could look up the specs of all out of production pick up trucks?? __________________ Andrew from Connecticut 2005 4Runner SR5 V8, 5-Speed Auto, All Wheel Drive, 17" Rims, Black/Grey After Market: K40 Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser Front & Rear (built in). Python GPS Stolen Device Tracker. Parrot Hands-Free Cell Kit. Back Up Sensors. Tinted Windows. Security Box inside center console and bolted to frame. *Nokian WR Tires (265/70/17) 2005 4Runner SR5 V8 AWD