Oil pan question - paper towel left in pan when sealed up

**waskillywabbit** · 10-14-2009, 08:06 PM

Doing a bunch of stuff tonight and putting my oil pan back on my 84 ext cab (it was put on with a gasket by the PO and leaking) and one corner at the back of the block kept dripping so I put a blue paper shop towel up in there to stop the drip so I could get the FIPG on there unmolested. Now that I think about it I don't think I took the paper towel out. I know it will get shredded, just wondering if I should yank the oil pan down now and remove it for fear of clogging up the sump screen?

Thoughts?

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BigBluePile · 10-14-2009, 08:13 PM

Honestly, yeah, I would drop it and get it out. I'm too paranoid, just 'cause I'll know that it's in there.

Teuf · 10-14-2009, 08:21 PM

Yea i'd drop her. When i did my head i almost convinced myself i left a rag in # 1 cyld, dang i lost a nights sleep. Bye the way how much clearance do you need under oil pan (22re, Rancho 3" lift) to get off without lifting engine a bit.

Pigman · 10-14-2009, 08:52 PM

In a word "YES" drop that pan and remove it, it could cost you a lot of money if you don,t. I know thats not what any of us would want to hear but!!!!!!! Been there done that,
Pigman

fishon1213 · 10-14-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuf

Yea i'd drop her. When i did my head i almost convinced myself i left a rag in # 1 cyld, dang i lost a nights sleep. Bye the way how much clearance do you need under oil pan (22re, Rancho 3" lift) to get off without lifting engine a bit.

I don't know how much clearance you need clarence. he he. But I would try to jack er up by the frame and let ther axel droop a bit.

malteserunner · 10-14-2009, 09:10 PM

Better safe than sorry Brian.

874runnersr5 · 10-14-2009, 10:50 PM

pfft atleast you dont have to drop your front diff and wrestle with it.. i'd be happy if i had to redo it haha.

olharleyman · 10-14-2009, 11:23 PM

LOL you got to be kidding I think you just posted to add to your count

you know you really didn't need to ask that question

you crack me up

**waskillywabbit** · 10-15-2009, 05:26 AM

Long day and I was tired. I don't remember specifically removing it so a dropping I will go. Boneheaded, but at least I hadn't filled it with oil again.

All you have to do is jack the frame about an inch or so to clear the axle with the oil pan.

Dealer price out is $266 to r/r. Yes Im lazy but not THAT lazy.

Im going to see if I can snake it with a coat hanger through the drain plug first as it is right above it. Might get lucky.

ocdropzone · 10-15-2009, 05:35 AM

glad you found it now, you do this on the '84 or the '85? ...I found chunks of an old timing chain when i dropped the pan on my '84...would rather have found a paper towel...

92 TOY · 10-15-2009, 06:08 AM

Glad to hear you are a mere mortal like me.

I would drop the pan for 100% insurance. But maybe you could work one of those (and I'm going to use extremely technical terms) snakey -thingys that is about 18'' long with a plunger on the handle end that makes a little claw come out on the other end to grab onto it and then just lay out the paper towel to see that you got it all.

Reminds me of the thread I saw where somebody was pulling rags out the spark plug holes because he forgot to take them out.

I won't laugh because I am still taking stuff apart.

Teuf · 10-15-2009, 09:30 AM

Rag removal through the drain plug, ya kiddin. Good one.

Lumpy · 10-15-2009, 09:36 AM

Anything is possible...

**waskillywabbit** · 10-15-2009, 09:52 AM

Actually the blue towel is right there above the drain plug hole and perhaps oil soaked by now and fell on its own. If not, I am still going to try and fish it out with something first before tearing the pan down again. Worth a shot.

Stupidity is the precursor for most necessity. Necessity is the foundation of all invention.

Windsor · 10-15-2009, 12:22 PM

at least it'll be a good story to tell kids and friends over beer.

BigBluePile · 10-15-2009, 06:25 PM

Did you get it out?

**DeathCougar** · 10-15-2009, 07:25 PM

I say don't fish it out.

Then call your buddy at Nix99 for a new engine

**waskillywabbit** · 10-17-2009, 04:18 PM

Well I tackled this today. The blue towel was right where I had left it.

FYI: Toyota FIPG is pretty much a one use tube. I think the big issue I had last time was the tube had been opened and a bit used and the rest had gotten "hardened" from exposure to the air and didn't flow out of the tube.

This time I had a new tube of FIPG and things went much smoother. Lesson learned.

Oil pan is on. Curing overnight.

92 TOY · 10-17-2009, 04:24 PM

So, no fishin'.

**waskillywabbit** · 10-17-2009, 04:25 PM

I tried the shop vac but the towel was just wedge in there too tightly.

Only took me about an hour to redo it. Dealer charges 3 hours...ridiculous.

92 TOY · 10-17-2009, 04:28 PM

you should time yourself and try to best your last time next time you do it.

kiyobrown · 10-17-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Long day and I was tired. I don't remember specifically removing it so a dropping I will go. Boneheaded, but at least I hadn't filled it with oil again.

All you have to do is jack the frame about an inch or so to clear the axle with the oil pan.

Dealer price out is $266 to r/r. Yes Im lazy but not THAT lazy.

Im going to see if I can snake it with a coat hanger through the drain plug first as it is right above it. Might get lucky.

So what you're telling us, you aren't $266 lazy, but lazy enough you found out how much it would be for the dealer to do it? HA!

**waskillywabbit** · 10-17-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92 TOY

you should time yourself and try to best your last time next time you do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiyobrown

So what you're telling us, you aren't $266 lazy, but lazy enough you found out how much it would be for the dealer to do it? HA!

I won't be doing it again while an engine is in the vehicle unless I absolutely have to...much easier on an engine stand.

I am either at the dealer or talk to them every day...so I asked just out of curiosity.

**DeathCougar** · 10-18-2009, 06:30 PM

The easy way to make FIPG a multi-use tube is to attach the spout extension, cut just the tip off, then stick a screw in the end. That way even if the stuff hardens in the tube, it won't be hard at the actual tube.

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waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	Long day and I was tired. I don't remember specifically removing it so a dropping I will go. Boneheaded, but at least I hadn't filled it with oil again. All you have to do is jack the frame about an inch or so to clear the axle with the oil pan. Dealer price out is $266 to r/r. Yes Im lazy but not THAT lazy. Im going to see if I can snake it with a coat hanger through the drain plug first as it is right above it. Might get lucky. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,720	glad you found it now, you do this on the '84 or the '85? ...I found chunks of an old timing chain when i dropped the pan on my '84...would rather have found a paper towel... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

10-14-2009, 08:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 501	Yea i'd drop her. When i did my head i almost convinced myself i left a rag in # 1 cyld, dang i lost a nights sleep. Bye the way how much clearance do you need under oil pan (22re, Rancho 3" lift) to get off without lifting engine a bit.

10-14-2009, 08:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pigman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 24	In a word "YES" drop that pan and remove it, it could cost you a lot of money if you don,t. I know thats not what any of us would want to hear but!!!!!!! Been there done that, Pigman

10-15-2009, 06:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,085	Glad to hear you are a mere mortal like me. I would drop the pan for 100% insurance. But maybe you could work one of those (and I'm going to use extremely technical terms) snakey -thingys that is about 18'' long with a plunger on the handle end that makes a little claw come out on the other end to grab onto it and then just lay out the paper towel to see that you got it all. Reminds me of the thread I saw where somebody was pulling rags out the spark plug holes because he forgot to take them out. I won't laugh because I am still taking stuff apart. __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

10-15-2009, 09:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 501	Rag removal through the drain plug, ya kiddin. Good one.

10-15-2009, 09:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	Actually the blue towel is right there above the drain plug hole and perhaps oil soaked by now and fell on its own. If not, I am still going to try and fish it out with something first before tearing the pan down again. Worth a shot. Stupidity is the precursor for most necessity. Necessity is the foundation of all invention. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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10-17-2009, 04:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	Well I tackled this today. The blue towel was right where I had left it. FYI: Toyota FIPG is pretty much a one use tube. I think the big issue I had last time was the tube had been opened and a bit used and the rest had gotten "hardened" from exposure to the air and didn't flow out of the tube. This time I had a new tube of FIPG and things went much smoother. Lesson learned. Oil pan is on. Curing overnight. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

10-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,085	So, no fishin'. __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

10-17-2009, 04:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	I tried the shop vac but the towel was just wedge in there too tightly. Only took me about an hour to redo it. Dealer charges 3 hours...ridiculous. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

10-17-2009, 04:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,085	you should time yourself and try to best your last time next time you do it. __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

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