My new 1985 4Runner - Page 3

shawn0890ss · 03-12-2006, 04:13 AM

yeah i thought about replaceing my bed with fiber glass but then i realized it would cost as much as i paid for the truck, so now im just gonna patch the rusty spots.

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slacker · 03-12-2006, 08:58 AM

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Thanks, I have been thinking about fiberglass. I think it would help offset the center of gravity being higher when I install a full cage. I am searching some different threads to get some info on people who have used it.

lots of guys on http://www.4x4wire.com/ have pieces.

1985 4Runner · 03-13-2006, 02:15 PM

Thanks, it will probably be a little while before I decide on new body panels, I may just sawzall the wheel wells. I hope to know in the next few days the shop price on frame repair.

Oh- And I am STILL waiting on my seat mounting backets!!!

shawn0890ss · 03-13-2006, 06:50 PM

if you find anybody that makes aftermarket frames let me know. i trie e-mailing matkins extreme but they never replied. and my frame has already been repaired by the previous owner and now it needs more work. good thing i just got a welder, but bad thing i dont know how to use it yet.

fnrunner · 03-14-2006, 07:14 AM

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I am trying to decide if I want to try & repair the frame myself or have it done at a shop. I have no proir exp. in welding.

It really looks like the frame rust is in a critical spot so have someone with more experience do the work. If it's not done right that spring hanger's going straight through that rust. & Not to sound like a jerk, but would you tear into your house foundation if you didn't know how to fix it?? Same deal IMO, fix it right the first time & never worry about it again.....

Sweet looking Runner!! & at least it's CHEVY powered, unlike some I've seen with F-O-R-D crap.... haha!! Speaking of which, if you wanted to really decrease that body lift even more than you mentioned, that air cleaner could be swapped out for a lot shorter one. K&N now has a round air cleaner lid too, so you could get more of a ram air effect out of that hood....just an idea....

FilthyRich · 03-14-2006, 11:39 AM

POR-15 would be the best bet for some of the rust, but in critical areas i would replace the metal and reinforce it, then coat it in POR-15

1985 4Runner · 03-14-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fnrunner

It really looks like the frame rust is in a critical spot so have someone with more experience do the work. If it's not done right that spring hanger's going straight through that rust. & Not to sound like a jerk, but would you tear into your house foundation if you didn't know how to fix it?? Same deal IMO, fix it right the first time & never worry about it again.....

Sweet looking Runner!! & at least it's CHEVY powered, unlike some I've seen with F-O-R-D crap.... haha!! Speaking of which, if you wanted to really decrease that body lift even more than you mentioned, that air cleaner could be swapped out for a lot shorter one. K&N now has a round air cleaner lid too, so you could get more of a ram air effect out of that hood....just an idea....

Thanks, and I am not going to attempt the frame repair, I will have a shop do it. I think I can drop the body lift down to 2" without too much trouble, I need to fix the rust in the floor panels to make it all solid again. I like the idea about the air cleaner, I think something is in order, will kick around a few ideas.
Thanks again.

FilthyRich · 03-14-2006, 01:59 PM

make sure lowering the BL won't affect the clearance of the motor

1985 4Runner · 03-14-2006, 11:44 PM

there will be some clearance issues with the radiator to deal with, and when the frame is fixed it will get a coat of POR-15.

1985 4Runner · 03-15-2006, 04:38 PM

Been kind of busy, & still waiting for my mounting brackets...

I decided after grinding down some of the fenders to to take the sawzall to the rear fenders tomorrow. Knowing this truck is going to be wheeled, I am not going to put a lot of money into body work right now.

I set one of the new seats in to see how it would look...now where is the UPS guy with my brackets?...

Hopefully tomorrow...

Newb · 03-16-2006, 04:56 AM

Just a suggestion but I'd use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel if you have one available. I've done it both ways and the grinder is a little more controllable i think... 4" cut off wheels are 2$s at most and do alot cleaner job. Either way run some cheap painters tape on the good side of the cut and it will keep your paint from chipping for the most part...

Downfalls:
Sawzall - If it gets caught on something it'll either twist or send ripples through the sheet metal...
Grinder - The sparks sometimes tend to make the paint start to peel...

Some links that may be useful...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386066
http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/2003/toyfenders/
http://lokmeup.iwolfe.com/Toyota/FenderTrim.htm
http://www.wabfab.org/project/ft/ft.htm

Good luck & awesome Runner by the way

1985 4Runner · 03-16-2006, 11:18 AM

Thanks for the great info!

Newb · 03-16-2006, 11:22 AM

Check out how wabfab did his rear fender by folding the edge inward then to give himself a lip. I'm thinking if you did that for the fron it'd give something to mount the innerfender wall too... I wish i would have thought of that before cause otherwise your gonna layer where the hinges are mounted, for the door, in mud

1985 4Runner · 03-17-2006, 04:39 AM

Thanks, yeah I saw Wabbit's, very nice work. I am learning a lot from all of you on here. I won't be doing any work on mine this weekend, going to party with the gf for St. Patty's. I might get the seats in Sunday IF the brackets come. I still have to learn to weld before I hit the fenders anyway...
Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Lt. Dan · 03-17-2006, 01:04 PM

Nice rig!! Good info! Yer doing it right!

Loved the video, and I am Jonesing your BullBar.

Keep it up!

V_Runner · 03-17-2006, 03:14 PM

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can i get dibs for when you sell them cheap...thnxs...PM me when you want to sell them...

you still gonna give me dibs when you get ready to sell???PM me when you are...

1985 4Runner · 03-21-2006, 09:02 AM

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you still gonna give me dibs when you get ready to sell???PM me when you are...

Yeah,

It will prob be June/July at the earliest. Got to have the $ saved for the rock sliders & Stout rear bumper first.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-21-2006, 10:00 AM

What kind of seats are those? Cost? How do they mount?

Looking good. Trim those fenders and forget about them, but YES, do the lip.

1985 4Runner · 03-21-2006, 11:49 AM

The seats are "APC" (universal) from ebay, mounting brackets ordered from Wedge engineering, total cost with the Peak seat restraints should be around $550.00 for the set. I hope to have them installed (with pics & links) as soon as I get home on Wed/Thurs.

V_Runner · 03-21-2006, 12:25 PM

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Yeah,

It will prob be June/July at the earliest. Got to have the $ saved for the rock sliders & Stout rear bumper first.

thats prefect becuase i shuold have the $ by then...

M threezy · 03-21-2006, 01:05 PM

would you like to sell the fender flares?

1985 4Runner · 03-22-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M threezy

would you like to sell the fender flares?

Sure, the back two are cracked on the bottom rear, the front ones are ok, no cracks. I will try to take some pics today.

M threezy · 03-22-2006, 12:57 PM

PM-ed you

1985 4Runner · 03-22-2006, 01:28 PM

Here are the pics of the flares, I checked again and only one is not cracked, and the mounting holes are cracked as well. I really wouldn't feel right selling them, but if you still want them I would just charge you shipping only. They are in rough shape at best.

mounting holes are mostly all cracked:

as are the flares:

phorunninduke · 03-22-2006, 03:57 PM

stock toy axel? hard to see the front in the pictures. Better get used to fixing the front axle.. pretty sweet ride./

03-16-2006, 04:56 AM	#61 (permalink)
Newb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 115	Take it for what its worth... Just a suggestion but I'd use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel if you have one available. I've done it both ways and the grinder is a little more controllable i think... 4" cut off wheels are 2$s at most and do alot cleaner job. Either way run some cheap painters tape on the good side of the cut and it will keep your paint from chipping for the most part... Downfalls: Sawzall - If it gets caught on something it'll either twist or send ripples through the sheet metal... Grinder - The sparks sometimes tend to make the paint start to peel... Some links that may be useful... http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386066 http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/2003/toyfenders/ http://lokmeup.iwolfe.com/Toyota/FenderTrim.htm http://www.wabfab.org/project/ft/ft.htm Good luck & awesome Runner by the way __________________ '85 4Runner ~ Rolled 3X & Still Curb Hoppin Last edited by Newb; 03-16-2006 at 06:36 AM.

03-16-2006, 11:22 AM	#63 (permalink)
Newb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 115	Random thought... Check out how wabfab did his rear fender by folding the edge inward then to give himself a lip. I'm thinking if you did that for the fron it'd give something to mount the innerfender wall too... I wish i would have thought of that before cause otherwise your gonna layer where the hinges are mounted, for the door, in mud __________________ '85 4Runner ~ Rolled 3X & Still Curb Hoppin Last edited by Newb; 03-16-2006 at 11:23 AM.

03-17-2006, 01:04 PM	#65 (permalink)
Lt. Dan Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Harrisburg, Oregon, U.S.A. Posts: 879	Nice rig!! Good info! Yer doing it right! Loved the video, and I am Jonesing your BullBar. Keep it up! __________________ 85 4-Runner, New Engine, Auto Tranny ,4" Lift, 32" Tires, Flowmaster Muffler, Suntop Soft Top....BLÅH....BLÅH....BLÅH..... There Are Few Problems In The Galaxy Which Cannot Be Solved By A Suitable Application Of Concentrated Phaser Fire.

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waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,553	What kind of seats are those? Cost? How do they mount? Looking good. Trim those fenders and forget about them, but YES, do the lip. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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03-13-2006, 06:50 PM	#54 (permalink)
shawn0890ss Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 171	if you find anybody that makes aftermarket frames let me know. i trie e-mailing matkins extreme but they never replied. and my frame has already been repaired by the previous owner and now it needs more work. good thing i just got a welder, but bad thing i dont know how to use it yet.

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M threezy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 231	would you like to sell the fender flares?

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M threezy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 231	PM-ed you

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phorunninduke Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Intercourse, PA Posts: 1,479	stock toy axel? hard to see the front in the pictures. Better get used to fixing the front axle.. pretty sweet ride./

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