rocklover

So I was driving in a parking lot and had to hit the brakes fast to stop for a person who popped out. Now let me tell you i was only going 5mph and i didnt even hit the brake hard enough to lock the wheels up. But anyways, when i hit the brakes i heard a loud cla-clunk and the truck dropped. I immediately new something horribly had gone wrong. So i got out and walked around the car and was amazzed at what i saw. My leaf springs on both sides in the front snapped in half by the u-bolts !!!! I was so dam furious i took a dam crow bar to the truck !!The front end is sitting so low the wheels are almost touching the wheel wells and the axle is pushed back so far it is scraping the wheel wells in the back. So now my bleeping truck is sitting in the parking lot. now I am just trying to devise a plan to fix it this weekend. I'm thinking about bringing some tools up with me to the school and fixing it there. I'm going to jack the frame up, replace the leafs, then try to move the axle back forward, bolt everything up, then try and get it home. I'm just hoping i can get it working again. This thing has caused me too many headaches the 4 weeks ive owned it, first being the driveshaft bolts falling out and having it rip off in the mtns, and now im worried about my own safety. Cause if those would have broken coming off a highway ramp, the tires would have turned sharply, and i would have probably been going end over end, and in the hospital if not dead. So once i get it home im going to re-inspect everything on the truck. Thanks for letting me rant. Austin
-Also do you think my plan will work, and could anyone give me any pointers while doing this i have never worked on these parts. thanks

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-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes

myyota

Im sitting here trying to figure out how that happened, i know a leaf spring can break, but to have both springs break at the same time and by the u-bolts ?, thats seems strange to me.

rocklover

I know i cant figure it out. And the break on both sides is a perfect vertical break through all 3 leafs . My dad asked me something too, did u hit a god dam curb going 30? no, but i wish i had at least some explanation for this. it happened exactly how i described it. I am wondering if not having a torsion bar assisted in this?

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1985 Extra Cab SR5, 5 Speed
-5 inch lift
-33x12.5 super swampers
-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes

881stGenRunner

you dont have torsion bars, you are SA. IFS has TBs

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1988 4Runner SR5 4x4 V6 5 Speed Swap SDORI 1.5" BJ Spacers~Downey 26MM TBs~Downey 3" Springs~Downey Shackles~PC ES3000s~PC ES2000 SS~Motive Gear 5.29s~Rear Detroit~Front Lock-Rite~Yakima Load Warrior~33x12.5R15 Yoko Geolander M/Ts~Cragar 15x8 Streetlocks~Cobra 18 WXSTII~3' Firestik II~Marlin Crawler rear~Custom Front~4X Innovations Sliders~WabFab Bikini Kit~Optima Yellow Top~SS IFS Truss.
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rocklover

my mistake i meant like the torque bar. i could be getting my words mixed up i do apologize. But what ever bar that keeps the axle from twisting or turning during breaking. Because something has definitely been cut off

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1985 Extra Cab SR5, 5 Speed
-5 inch lift
-33x12.5 super swampers
-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes

881stGenRunner

ya thats what i figured after i typed that in. No Problem. that could be a reason for some problems. I am not too familiar with the stock SA setups so I am not of too much help to you.

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1988 4Runner SR5 4x4 V6 5 Speed Swap SDORI 1.5" BJ Spacers~Downey 26MM TBs~Downey 3" Springs~Downey Shackles~PC ES3000s~PC ES2000 SS~Motive Gear 5.29s~Rear Detroit~Front Lock-Rite~Yakima Load Warrior~33x12.5R15 Yoko Geolander M/Ts~Cragar 15x8 Streetlocks~Cobra 18 WXSTII~3' Firestik II~Marlin Crawler rear~Custom Front~4X Innovations Sliders~WabFab Bikini Kit~Optima Yellow Top~SS IFS Truss.
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4Crawler

The torque rod does help control the front axle while braking. It keeps the axle from rolling forward under heavy braking, mainly to prevent having the front tires steer to one side. But with old sagging springs, that may have been kinked/bent around the spring perches, that axle roll might have done in the springs.

I don't have a torque rod on my '85 due to the crossover steering and if I hit the brakes hard at slow speed, I can hear the front springs making noise as the spring clamps engage and keep the leaves from separating.

Maybe pick up a set of used springs to slap on there, or you could slap a block of steel over the break and weld it together. I did that once on a Jeep in out group that busted a front spring about 10 miles from the end of a hard trail:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CA-168/Dusy-2003/21.html

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rocklover

thanks once again 4crawler for help answering my questions. Now i have another one lol. Is there a way to install a new torque bar?

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1985 Extra Cab SR5, 5 Speed
-5 inch lift
-33x12.5 super swampers
-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes

algranger

did you remove any springs from your packs

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rocklover

nope ive never touched them

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1985 Extra Cab SR5, 5 Speed
-5 inch lift
-33x12.5 super swampers
-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes

rocklover

is it possible to weld a new torque bar on?

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1985 Extra Cab SR5, 5 Speed
-5 inch lift
-33x12.5 super swampers
-snorkel
-roll bar
-Winch bumper
-6 KC lights
-bullet holes