Grease for knuckle/bearings etc...

live4soccer7 · 10-27-2009, 10:23 AM

I'm going to be putting back my knuckles and all that stuff soon, but I need to get some grease to pack all the appropriate stuff.

Molybdenum disulphide lithium base grease.

Sometimes it refers to this as a general MP grease and sometimes is says to use it specifically. Should I be concerned about a different kinds of greases or just get this and use it as a general MP grease (unless otherwise specified in the FSM)?

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Wardamneagle · 10-27-2009, 10:43 AM

You need to use a moly fortified grease for the knuckles (and trunion bearings, although opinions vary on this). You should not use this grease on the high-speed wheel bearings.

I like synthetics so I used Amsoil moly-fortified synthetic for the knuckles and trunions bearings and Mobil 1 (red) synthetic for the wheel bearings. Many people use the Valvoline moly-fortified synthetic for the knuckles as it can normally be found locally.

live4soccer7 · 10-27-2009, 12:18 PM

Which of the ams do you use? Not quite seeing one that states what you said. I use amsoil in my car and love the stuff, so I think I'll stick with them. Thanks for the help.

Also, how many tubes do you think should get the job done for both sides, with some to spare?

http://www.amsoil.com/a/Synthetic-Grease

Also, is this the stuff you are talking about for the wheel bearings?

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-Syntheti.../dp/B00085F4JO

live4soccer7 · 10-27-2009, 07:22 PM

anyone know about how much of this I need?

live4soccer7 · 10-27-2009, 08:18 PM

Anyone know which grease to get to pack the knuckles? I want to get amsoil, but I'm not sure which to get.

http://www.amsoil.com/a/Synthetic-Grease

This is the last thing I need to order up.

Wardamneagle · 10-28-2009, 07:13 AM

Synthetic Heavy-Duty Grease NLGI #2.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ghd.aspx

6 tubes total will be enough to have at least 1 tube left over.

Yes, that's the correct Mobile 1. You wouldn't need more than 1 tube for the wheel bearings. You could also use one of the non-moly Amsoils as well such as:

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/glc.aspx

live4soccer7 · 11-01-2009, 10:39 AM

Also, I've got one more question. The oil for the differential when I have to fill it back up. I'd like to get some ams as well. What kind and how much? I remember looking in the FSM before and it may have told me how much, but I wasn't sure on the specific kind.

Wardamneagle · 11-01-2009, 10:57 AM

Any of their 75W-90 or 80W-90 gear oils will work:

http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-gear-oil

I use Redline Synthetic for the diffs and manual trans but I doubt that there's any reason not to use the Amsoil. Just to confuse things, I use Amsoil synthetic ATF for automatic transmissions and Mobile 1 for all the engines. Why? Even I don't remember.

Outsane · 11-01-2009, 11:34 AM

Damn, really six tubes?

Gnarly4X · 11-01-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsane

Damn, really six tubes?

You do NOT need to pack the knuckle full of grease. Just hand pack and rub lots of grease in the birf joint. Any kind of moly grease will work fine -- your knuckles will not know the difference.

gNARLS.

Gnarly4X · 11-01-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by live4soccer7

Also, I've got one more question. The oil for the differential when I have to fill it back up. I'd like to get some ams as well. What kind and how much? I remember looking in the FSM before and it may have told me how much, but I wasn't sure on the specific kind.

Unless you live in extreme cold climate, any API GL-5 hypoid gear oil will be fine. If you want to go to the extra cost and "feel better", you can use any synthetic. Your diffs won't know the difference -- unless your are running posi-traction type 3rd members.

For the manual tranny and t-case you can't beat Redline!!

gNARLS.

Wardamneagle · 11-01-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsane

Damn, really six tubes?

No it doesn't take 6 tubes but I couldn't remember if 2 tubes per side was enough or not and he said that he wanted some left over. Maybe 4 or 5 tubes would have been a better suggestion.

Agree that the knuckles shouldn't be full. Pack the birfields entirely full and then fill the knuckles about 3/4 full or maybe a little less.

Outsane · 11-01-2009, 01:39 PM

well I guess I need three more tubes...

I only got two tubes of Amsoil NLG1 #1

live4soccer7 · 11-01-2009, 11:10 PM

Just curious, but why do you use redline over anything else. It seems you are pretty set on it. I've heard the MT is great for trannies, but I'm just wondering your point of view on it. Maybe I'll switch over from ams (it's what i've used in my car tranny, diff and engine).

kinzer · 11-01-2009, 11:18 PM

personally i use marine grease for everything and never have a problem, iv replaced and removed too many birfs and droped the diff soooo many times if found it not worth it to use speacial synthetic greases and oils or even fill the knuckles, i bought a 5 gallon bucket of gl-5 and use that in all my drivetrain.

Wardamneagle · 11-02-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsane

well I guess I need three more tubes...

I only got two tubes of Amsoil NLG1 #1

You need NLGI #2 (multi-purpose for the wheel bearings and moly-fortified fortified for the knuckles).

Quote:

Originally Posted by live4soccer7

Just curious, but why do you use redline over anything else. It seems you are pretty set on it. I've heard the MT is great for trannies, but I'm just wondering your point of view on it. Maybe I'll switch over from ams (it's what i've used in my car tranny, diff and engine).

I guess I have read too many recommendations for Redline synthetic in manual transmissions, transfer cases, and differentials to ignore. Again, I don't think you can go wrong with Amsoil or Mobil 1 products either. FWIW, I haven't seen it recommended for automatic transmissions. I used Amsoil ATF in my Land Cruiser transmission but it was a toss up between that and Mobil 1.

Gnarly4X · 11-02-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by live4soccer7

Just curious, but why do you use redline over anything else. It seems you are pretty set on it. I've heard the MT is great for trannies, but I'm just wondering your point of view on it. Maybe I'll switch over from ams (it's what i've used in my car tranny, diff and engine).

The last 5-speed I had rebuilt shifted nice and tight. My tranny shop said the "notchy" shifting would smooth out, but it didn't seem to go away. They offered to pull it down and replace the brand of synchros. It had a just tad of "notchy" shifting.... just a little syncho lag going from gear to gear, especially 1st, 2nd, 3rd. I put in Redline MT-90 and was totally amazed at how smooth it shifted. I would highly recommend it. I suppose Amsoil will do the same thing.

Note: if you have your manual tranny rebuilt, always request that the shop use nothing but Toyota Factory synchros. The aftermarket synchros have an inconsistent alloy metallurgy that makes the for un-smooth shifts. This info goes back about 10 years, so I don't know what my tranny shop would say today.

gNARLS

live4soccer7 · 11-02-2009, 06:36 AM

good information thanks

10-27-2009, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wardamneagle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK and Gulf Shores, AL Posts: 322	You need to use a moly fortified grease for the knuckles (and trunion bearings, although opinions vary on this). You should not use this grease on the high-speed wheel bearings. I like synthetics so I used Amsoil moly-fortified synthetic for the knuckles and trunions bearings and Mobil 1 (red) synthetic for the wheel bearings. Many people use the Valvoline moly-fortified synthetic for the knuckles as it can normally be found locally. __________________ 1985 4Runner 1997 FZJ 80 2007 HDJ100 - DD

10-27-2009, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	Which of the ams do you use? Not quite seeing one that states what you said. I use amsoil in my car and love the stuff, so I think I'll stick with them. Thanks for the help. Also, how many tubes do you think should get the job done for both sides, with some to spare? http://www.amsoil.com/a/Synthetic-Grease Also, is this the stuff you are talking about for the wheel bearings? http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-Syntheti.../dp/B00085F4JO Last edited by live4soccer7; 10-27-2009 at 12:23 PM.

10-28-2009, 07:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Wardamneagle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK and Gulf Shores, AL Posts: 322	Synthetic Heavy-Duty Grease NLGI #2. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ghd.aspx 6 tubes total will be enough to have at least 1 tube left over. Yes, that's the correct Mobile 1. You wouldn't need more than 1 tube for the wheel bearings. You could also use one of the non-moly Amsoils as well such as: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/glc.aspx __________________ 1985 4Runner 1997 FZJ 80 2007 HDJ100 - DD Last edited by Wardamneagle; 10-28-2009 at 07:17 AM.

11-01-2009, 10:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
Wardamneagle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK and Gulf Shores, AL Posts: 322	Any of their 75W-90 or 80W-90 gear oils will work: http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-gear-oil I use Redline Synthetic for the diffs and manual trans but I doubt that there's any reason not to use the Amsoil. Just to confuse things, I use Amsoil synthetic ATF for automatic transmissions and Mobile 1 for all the engines. Why? Even I don't remember. __________________ 1985 4Runner 1997 FZJ 80 2007 HDJ100 - DD

11-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
Outsane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 605	Damn, really six tubes? __________________ 1984 4runner - Photography

10-27-2009, 07:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	anyone know about how much of this I need?

10-27-2009, 08:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	Anyone know which grease to get to pack the knuckles? I want to get amsoil, but I'm not sure which to get. http://www.amsoil.com/a/Synthetic-Grease This is the last thing I need to order up.

11-01-2009, 10:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	Also, I've got one more question. The oil for the differential when I have to fill it back up. I'd like to get some ams as well. What kind and how much? I remember looking in the FSM before and it may have told me how much, but I wasn't sure on the specific kind.

11-01-2009, 01:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Outsane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 605	well I guess I need three more tubes... I only got two tubes of Amsoil NLG1 #1 __________________ 1984 4runner - Photography

11-01-2009, 11:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	Just curious, but why do you use redline over anything else. It seems you are pretty set on it. I've heard the MT is great for trannies, but I'm just wondering your point of view on it. Maybe I'll switch over from ams (it's what i've used in my car tranny, diff and engine).

11-02-2009, 06:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
live4soccer7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 440	good information thanks

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