85 xcab rear springs sagging

Texx · 10-17-2006, 09:10 AM

Wondered what "without lift" options there are for my new to me 85 Xcab. Driver's rear is sagging significantly. Front springs are fine, truck def has an "ass down" attitude. I'm restoring this for my daughter's first car, so want everything stock. Is it possible to get aftermarket springs without lift? Anyone have some good stockers near Tx?

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bktaco · 10-17-2006, 09:21 AM

i think NWOR sells replacement stock springs. i dont know if they are stronger upgrades, true oem replacements will probably end up sagging after a few years tho. i have never dealt with NWOR , but i have heard that they can be hard to deal with.

MtnToys · 10-18-2006, 07:11 AM

Get some old man emu (OME) springs made by ARB. They are bolt on, the ride is excellent and they flex better then stock. They have 2 inches of lift but if you get the soft ones I bet they would look stock. I have a set of these on an fj60 and the ride is far superior to stock.
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/reviews/ome/index.htm

AH64ID · 10-18-2006, 07:32 AM

OME, NWOR or ALCAN...

bktaco · 10-18-2006, 09:17 AM

mtn toys: do the OME springs end up sagging too, or are they beefy enought to hold up longer? i am looking at those springs for my 4runner in the next year or two...

phorunninduke · 10-18-2006, 09:30 AM

I have an extra set of rear springs. IIRC the truck they came off of still had the right ride height. They where an extra set for the "rears up front lift" that I never used.

They need to be cleaned up but you can have them for S+H (heavy)

Texx · 10-19-2006, 05:55 AM

I sure appreciate the offer! I'm gonna check around locally, may take you up on that. I need to measure my front height and see if it's lifted. It's on 235's right now, and there's looootttsss of open area...may have a small lift on it already.

4Crawler · 10-19-2006, 08:36 AM

Add-a-leaf (like the Rancho Soft-Ride AAL kit) or JC Whitney also sells a stock height rear spring:

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...t=1#Post931633

rockota · 10-21-2006, 05:24 PM

Personally, at over 20 years old, I'd replace them. Stay away from NWOR at all costs. The only place I know that sells stock-height springs is JC Whitney. Otherwise I echo the idea of 2" OME springs. Some of the nicest on the planet.

MtnToys · 10-24-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bktaco

mtn toys: do the OME springs end up sagging too, or are they beefy enought to hold up longer? i am looking at those springs for my 4runner in the next year or two...

I have only had the OME for a year or so. No signs of them sagging. We loaded the truck with 15 sheets of 3/8 plywood and the rear wasnt sagging. Keep in mind this is on an FJ60 but im sure they are similar to the 4runner and pickup springs. I would have installed these springs on my runner in a heart beat if i wasnt looking for a larger lift to fit 35s. I have only ever herd excellent things from others who have used OME.

84TonkaYoda · 10-27-2006, 07:19 AM

If you are wanting some flex I would go with the All-Pro superflex rear springs. They have a 3" lift to them for only $289 and you are off to having a great lift with more flex than you will ever need. Something to consider.

10-17-2006, 09:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
bktaco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 374	i think NWOR sells replacement stock springs. i dont know if they are stronger upgrades, true oem replacements will probably end up sagging after a few years tho. i have never dealt with NWOR , but i have heard that they can be hard to deal with. __________________ Yotas I've known... 83 pickup 87 Extracab SR5 4WD pickup 92 4WD pickup 85 long-bed pickup 90 pickup Yotas I own... 00 Extracab SR5 TRD Tacoma (3RZ) FOR SALE 85 SR5 4Runner Check the LongBeachRacers, pounding Tacos in the desert!

10-18-2006, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
AH64ID Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,638	OME, NWOR or ALCAN... __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

10-18-2006, 09:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
bktaco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 374	mtn toys: do the OME springs end up sagging too, or are they beefy enought to hold up longer? i am looking at those springs for my 4runner in the next year or two... __________________ Yotas I've known... 83 pickup 87 Extracab SR5 4WD pickup 92 4WD pickup 85 long-bed pickup 90 pickup Yotas I own... 00 Extracab SR5 TRD Tacoma (3RZ) FOR SALE 85 SR5 4Runner Check the LongBeachRacers, pounding Tacos in the desert!

10-19-2006, 08:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,836	Add-a-leaf (like the Rancho Soft-Ride AAL kit) or JC Whitney also sells a stock height rear spring: http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...t=1#Post931633 __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

10-27-2006, 07:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
84TonkaYoda Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 11	If you are wanting some flex I would go with the All-Pro superflex rear springs. They have a 3" lift to them for only $289 and you are off to having a great lift with more flex than you will ever need. Something to consider. __________________ 84 x-tra cab All-Pro Superflex springs, All-Pro Hy-steer, All-Pro Johnny joints in the rear, All-Pro shock hoops with Bilstien 5100 up front, Bilstien 5100 rear, All-Pro flip kit front and rear, All-Pro 2.5" shakels front and rear. Built 86 22r.

10-18-2006, 07:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
MtnToys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blacksburg, VA/Felton, PA Posts: 188	Get some old man emu (OME) springs made by ARB. They are bolt on, the ride is excellent and they flex better then stock. They have 2 inches of lift but if you get the soft ones I bet they would look stock. I have a set of these on an fj60 and the ride is far superior to stock. http://www.off-road.com/toyota/reviews/ome/index.htm

10-18-2006, 09:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
phorunninduke Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Intercourse, PA Posts: 1,479	I have an extra set of rear springs. IIRC the truck they came off of still had the right ride height. They where an extra set for the "rears up front lift" that I never used. They need to be cleaned up but you can have them for S+H (heavy)

10-19-2006, 05:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Texx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19	I sure appreciate the offer! I'm gonna check around locally, may take you up on that. I need to measure my front height and see if it's lifted. It's on 235's right now, and there's looootttsss of open area...may have a small lift on it already.

10-21-2006, 05:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
rockota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 742	Personally, at over 20 years old, I'd replace them. Stay away from NWOR at all costs. The only place I know that sells stock-height springs is JC Whitney. Otherwise I echo the idea of 2" OME springs. Some of the nicest on the planet.

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