1985 4runner Isuues?

Sho Shok · 10-27-2009, 08:56 AM

Hi,
long time reader-first time poster...

I had to sell my Tacoma b/c I broke my leg playing hockey.
Now I am back on my feet, and noticed what appears to be a nice '85 4runner for sale.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...433454500.html
Any input as to what I should look for with regard to common problems/issues, or things you would ask the seller? I am not familiar with this gen of Toyota, and the 22re engine, and accompanying tranny.
Or worse case- how expensive is an engine rebuild/swap...

Thanks Guys!

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crawlerjunkie · 10-27-2009, 09:14 AM

For 10k you shouldn't have to worry about anything, and from the looks of it you wont. As far as price goes if your going to wheel it look for something cheaper, if you want a daily driver that is super reliable and easy to maintain and you have 10k burning a hole in your pocket i say go for it.

seanmearse · 10-27-2009, 09:30 AM

Its clean, but 10k? Seems pretty steep. Not really alot done to it to warrant that. Timing chain was replaced, but no rebuild? I think you can do better.

Gnarly4X · 10-27-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmearse

Its clean, but 10k? Seems pretty steep. Not really alot done to it to warrant that. Timing chain was replaced, but no rebuild? I think you can do better.

I agree.

gNARLs.

Sho Shok · 10-27-2009, 11:19 AM

Thanks for the imput thus far...the fella says it's running strong, no oil burn, but I'm going to have it inspected- and won't be paying 10k...I'll offer...
I guess as I'm going from an '03 Tacoma, I'm just wondering what the typical lifespan of a maintained 22re is...and then factor that in.

seanmearse · 10-27-2009, 11:30 AM

Depends on prior maintenance and how she was driven. That truck in california would sell for maybe 4500 bucks.

JShaffer0525 · 10-27-2009, 11:31 AM

it is pretty clean but 10k is absolutely absurd. err, is that USD 10k or what?

bxlt · 10-27-2009, 11:43 AM

Like seanmearse said it depends on what maintenance was done by the PO but the 22re is a strong running motor and are easy and fairly cheap to repair. A good long block would cost you about $2500 but a rebuild kit would run $350ish so depending on your abilities it can be cheap to rebuild as for tranny and tcase they are pretty bullet proof. My tranny just went bad at 275,000 miles and I was able to find a replacement for only $350 the Tcase should hold up to almost anything (extreme rock crawling being an exception that can shorten its life) Then you have the axles and I don't know about the SFA as I've never owned one but they are probably pretty stout and will serve you well with proper maintenance.

That's my $.02 as I have two 20+ Year old trucks and for 6 months drove one 200 miles round trip 3 days a week with no isues.

And let me also add that $10k is a little steep!...a LOT steep!

Sho Shok · 10-27-2009, 12:04 PM

Hehe, general consensus is that 10k is too much, even if it is in Canadian $(were at about 93cents to usd)...at least no has much in the way of negative re thr truck itself. I was half expecting something along the lines of the 22re being underpowered or something
Thanks people

camo31"10.50" · 10-27-2009, 12:08 PM

HOLY !@@#...dang thats a niiicceee lookin runner...wow..but yea 10g's is EXTREMELY out of range for that truck..

hell i can get an '85 4runner about 100 miles away for $4700..and its BUILT..even has a 350/NV4500 combo..sits on brand new 37" IROKS..has 5" marlin crawler suspension crossover, dual t-case's, dirty 30's..and half an exo.lol

talk that guy down..WAYYY down..lmao

bxlt · 10-27-2009, 12:17 PM

How can you say its underpowered its a 4cly in a truck you shouldn't expect to go 100mph it would be nice to pull all the hills at 70 and with stock tires on it you can do it or regeared you can do it but you are buying a truck that is legally old enough to drink.

Like I said I would drive mine 200 miles a day and that was over a mountain pass and it did well on the steepest hill I would slow down to 60-65 but was driving in a truck I loves I didn't really care that I was getting passed by the cars as long as I could pass a semi I was happy.

So it really depends on what you want out of the truck. A good driver/wheeler then its got plenty of power. If you want to tow then not so much

Sho Shok · 10-27-2009, 01:08 PM

I can say that b/c I have no idea what I am talking about.

Just coming from the 3.4L TRD Taco I had it was just assumption- but you've helped me on that, thanks
The fellow with this truck emailed me saying the only issue he perceives with the truck is the "tenshioner pulley" making abit of noise, but working...I'll do the research on this...

Sho Shok · 10-30-2009, 12:48 PM

So far got the guy down to 8k...thanks for the input guys

85toyman · 11-02-2009, 08:26 AM

Try like $6500 for it, and not a penny more. That is more reasonable for that runner. I don't care what work you said you did, you never get back out of it what you put into it. Anyway just because he built it the way he wants doesn't mean its the way you want. You will want to change things after you buy it. It always happens and to all of us. LOL. Nothing will change that, at least for me. Good luck

Sho Shok · 11-02-2009, 08:59 AM

This guy is being stubborn- like you said , he is trying to get back what he put into it...maybe I can wait him out...my options would open up if the government didn't make cross-border shopping such a pain...

justsobuff · 11-02-2009, 11:30 AM

i would say he is high if he thinks he is gonna get 10,000 . im in des moines iowa. and i buy alot of toyota and do a fix her or there and resale for a profit. I just bought a wayyyyyyy nice 86 for 800$ also bought a 88 ext cab truck for 600 , tiny bit of rust on the bed. but frame was the best i had ever seen. still had the rubber coating on it. just my Food for thought.

justsobuff · 11-02-2009, 11:36 AM

as far as the what he put into it. i always tell me that are selling something that has put alot of money into it. Look at it this way. if you didnt have those parts in it. it wouldnt run!. also more then likely i could of got the part for cheaper and put it in for cheaper. I always refer back to a house i bought in ks. The lady wanted 1000$ more then what i had offered cause she filled up the propane tank. i looked her in the eye and said welp take it out. lol stuff like that you cant really expect to get full amount back. Tires i would say yah you could.

desertcamper67 · 11-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Sweet truck, sour price

Master_Yota · 11-02-2009, 07:22 PM

beautiful. never rust out worth every bit of 10k

peow130 · 11-02-2009, 09:57 PM

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...416463938.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...408775710.html

Why are all your guys' trucks so spendy?

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...448337496.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...445285475.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...433339482.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...432219057.html
/\ That one is nice, i'd buy it.

Just a bit of what's in BC, for ya.
Most are in "good enough" condition, with stuff you could easily fix.

Etype R · 11-03-2009, 06:23 AM

$8000 isn't bad... But I would try for $7000 with that smitty built rear bumper. That thing screams for a better front and rear bumper

Sho Shok · 11-04-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etype R

$8000 isn't bad... But I would try for $7000 with that smitty built rear bumper. That thing screams for a better front and rear bumper

Funny you should mention that- that's what happened, 7+k, (I am sooooo weeeeakkk), and now I would like a bumper/sliders, kinda like your "Golden" sr5 buddy makes in that other thread...I'll post better pics of the truck later.

But I will say- going from a '03 Taco, what a difference, this is plain and simple TRUCK, no more steering with my pinky finger

Etype R · 11-04-2009, 07:38 AM

At least it is geared and has cross over steering installed already. If it wasn't for those mods, it wouldn't have been worth it. But its a very clean truck, and sounds like all the body work was done very well. Its far from a screaming deal at 7k, but its a very nice rig to start with

10-27-2009, 09:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
seanmearse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ridgecrest, Ca Posts: 1,128	Its clean, but 10k? Seems pretty steep. Not really alot done to it to warrant that. Timing chain was replaced, but no rebuild? I think you can do better. __________________ The Internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents. Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/ 84 SR5 pickup, Mostly stock 22R, K&N air filter, Mobil 1 oil filter, Cherry Bomb, Mobil 1 engine, Royal Purple diff and trans fluid, 15X8 street locks, 3 inch procomp front springs, waiting to buy rears, rancho RS9000XL's up front. 2003 Vstar 650, straight pipe, loud and fast baby!

10-27-2009, 11:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
seanmearse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ridgecrest, Ca Posts: 1,128	Depends on prior maintenance and how she was driven. That truck in california would sell for maybe 4500 bucks. __________________ The Internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents. Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/ 84 SR5 pickup, Mostly stock 22R, K&N air filter, Mobil 1 oil filter, Cherry Bomb, Mobil 1 engine, Royal Purple diff and trans fluid, 15X8 street locks, 3 inch procomp front springs, waiting to buy rears, rancho RS9000XL's up front. 2003 Vstar 650, straight pipe, loud and fast baby!

10-27-2009, 11:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
bxlt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ellensburg, WA Posts: 240	Like seanmearse said it depends on what maintenance was done by the PO but the 22re is a strong running motor and are easy and fairly cheap to repair. A good long block would cost you about $2500 but a rebuild kit would run $350ish so depending on your abilities it can be cheap to rebuild as for tranny and tcase they are pretty bullet proof. My tranny just went bad at 275,000 miles and I was able to find a replacement for only $350 the Tcase should hold up to almost anything (extreme rock crawling being an exception that can shorten its life) Then you have the axles and I don't know about the SFA as I've never owned one but they are probably pretty stout and will serve you well with proper maintenance. That's my $.02 as I have two 20+ Year old trucks and for 6 months drove one 200 miles round trip 3 days a week with no isues. And let me also add that $10k is a little steep!...a LOT steep! __________________ 86 Regular Cab, 31x10.50, 22r, 5sp, Marlin 1200lb Heavy Duty Clutch, Smittybuilt Rear Bumper and 275K miles and counting 89 4Runner 3.Slow 5sp 31x10.50 in need of some help but I have plans for it (in no particular order): Front bumper and winch, 2” Body lift, BJ Spacers, Locker 33's and more

10-27-2009, 12:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,088	HOLY !@@#...dang thats a niiicceee lookin runner...wow..but yea 10g's is EXTREMELY out of range for that truck.. hell i can get an '85 4runner about 100 miles away for $4700..and its BUILT..even has a 350/NV4500 combo..sits on brand new 37" IROKS..has 5" marlin crawler suspension crossover, dual t-case's, dirty 30's..and half an exo.lol talk that guy down..WAYYY down..lmao __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

10-27-2009, 12:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
bxlt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ellensburg, WA Posts: 240	How can you say its underpowered its a 4cly in a truck you shouldn't expect to go 100mph it would be nice to pull all the hills at 70 and with stock tires on it you can do it or regeared you can do it but you are buying a truck that is legally old enough to drink. Like I said I would drive mine 200 miles a day and that was over a mountain pass and it did well on the steepest hill I would slow down to 60-65 but was driving in a truck I loves I didn't really care that I was getting passed by the cars as long as I could pass a semi I was happy. So it really depends on what you want out of the truck. A good driver/wheeler then its got plenty of power. If you want to tow then not so much __________________ 86 Regular Cab, 31x10.50, 22r, 5sp, Marlin 1200lb Heavy Duty Clutch, Smittybuilt Rear Bumper and 275K miles and counting 89 4Runner 3.Slow 5sp 31x10.50 in need of some help but I have plans for it (in no particular order): Front bumper and winch, 2” Body lift, BJ Spacers, Locker 33's and more

10-27-2009, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
crawlerjunkie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Santee C.A. Posts: 77	For 10k you shouldn't have to worry about anything, and from the looks of it you wont. As far as price goes if your going to wheel it look for something cheaper, if you want a daily driver that is super reliable and easy to maintain and you have 10k burning a hole in your pocket i say go for it.

10-27-2009, 11:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sho Shok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 7	Thanks for the imput thus far...the fella says it's running strong, no oil burn, but I'm going to have it inspected- and won't be paying 10k...I'll offer... I guess as I'm going from an '03 Tacoma, I'm just wondering what the typical lifespan of a maintained 22re is...and then factor that in.

10-27-2009, 12:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sho Shok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 7	Hehe, general consensus is that 10k is too much, even if it is in Canadian $(were at about 93cents to usd)...at least no has much in the way of negative re thr truck itself. I was half expecting something along the lines of the 22re being underpowered or something Thanks people

10-27-2009, 01:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sho Shok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 7	I can say that b/c I have no idea what I am talking about. Just coming from the 3.4L TRD Taco I had it was just assumption- but you've helped me on that, thanks The fellow with this truck emailed me saying the only issue he perceives with the truck is the "tenshioner pulley" making abit of noise, but working...I'll do the research on this...

10-30-2009, 12:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sho Shok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 7	So far got the guy down to 8k...thanks for the input guys

11-02-2009, 08:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
85toyman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Centeral Willamette Valley Oregon Posts: 21	Try like $6500 for it, and not a penny more. That is more reasonable for that runner. I don't care what work you said you did, you never get back out of it what you put into it. Anyway just because he built it the way he wants doesn't mean its the way you want. You will want to change things after you buy it. It always happens and to all of us. LOL. Nothing will change that, at least for me. Good luck

11-02-2009, 08:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sho Shok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 7	This guy is being stubborn- like you said , he is trying to get back what he put into it...maybe I can wait him out...my options would open up if the government didn't make cross-border shopping such a pain...

11-02-2009, 11:30 AM	#16 (permalink)
justsobuff Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55	i would say he is high if he thinks he is gonna get 10,000 . im in des moines iowa. and i buy alot of toyota and do a fix her or there and resale for a profit. I just bought a wayyyyyyy nice 86 for 800$ also bought a 88 ext cab truck for 600 , tiny bit of rust on the bed. but frame was the best i had ever seen. still had the rubber coating on it. just my Food for thought.

11-02-2009, 11:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
justsobuff Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55	as far as the what he put into it. i always tell me that are selling something that has put alot of money into it. Look at it this way. if you didnt have those parts in it. it wouldnt run!. also more then likely i could of got the part for cheaper and put it in for cheaper. I always refer back to a house i bought in ks. The lady wanted 1000$ more then what i had offered cause she filled up the propane tank. i looked her in the eye and said welp take it out. lol stuff like that you cant really expect to get full amount back. Tires i would say yah you could.

11-02-2009, 07:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
Master_Yota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Grayling, Michigan Posts: 61	beautiful. never rust out worth every bit of 10k __________________ 85 4runner 35s, 5.29s, 14 inch bilsteins, cam, header w/out cat, 3 inch body, soon to have marlin 5 inch trailflex kit and only 1 inch body You know you drive a toyota when..... 1.) Hi 4 is basically useless 2.) Reverse takes a few trys to get in 3.) You call your sohc 22re with cam and headers hi performance 4.) You stare at every toyota...weather it be lifted, stock, or rustbucket 5.) You are the designated vehicle in the group to pull people out but never have been stuck yourself

11-02-2009, 09:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 771	http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...416463938.html http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...408775710.html Why are all your guys' trucks so spendy? http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...448337496.html http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...445285475.html http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...433339482.html http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...432219057.html /\ That one is nice, i'd buy it. Just a bit of what's in BC, for ya. Most are in "good enough" condition, with stuff you could easily fix. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

11-03-2009, 06:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
Etype R Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 294	$8000 isn't bad... But I would try for $7000 with that smitty built rear bumper. That thing screams for a better front and rear bumper __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner - Full SR5 package - 4 inch lift - 35" tires

11-04-2009, 07:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
Etype R Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 294	At least it is geared and has cross over steering installed already. If it wasn't for those mods, it wouldn't have been worth it. But its a very clean truck, and sounds like all the body work was done very well. Its far from a screaming deal at 7k, but its a very nice rig to start with __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner - Full SR5 package - 4 inch lift - 35" tires

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