transmission wont come out?

truckdude239 · 09-25-2009, 11:56 AM

83 toyota 22r with 4 spped tran mission comes out about 3 inichs and the is it can not get to to come any farther and we are stumped sort of knocking a hole int he bellhouseing and unbolting the clutch disc i dont know what to do

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83 · 09-25-2009, 02:27 PM

Umm...huh?

You're pulling the tranny? You don't mean won't come out of gear? If the d-shafts are all removed, wires unplugged, shifters removed, and all bolts removed, it should come out just fine. Brain is a little tired so forgive me...but does the slave cylinder bolt to the bellhousing or engine? That could hold things up. Anyways it's hard to say from this end, because we don't know if you've got everything removed.

Somebody put a 4 speed in your truck, eh?

truckdude239 · 09-25-2009, 05:21 PM

It is an 83 so normal 4 speed we got it out tonight had to cut a hole in the bell houseing and unbolt the clutch the polit bearing was stuck on the end of the shaft

85excab · 09-25-2009, 05:37 PM

yep, the pilot bearing does that sumtimes, just gotta pull harder.

Plumbrbob · 09-25-2009, 05:56 PM

is the tranny in gear still? putting it in nuetral helps sometimes.....

truckdude239 · 09-25-2009, 06:12 PM

We had another truck trying to pull it it out with rope around it it would not come out

22RUCRAZY · 09-25-2009, 06:15 PM

sounds crazy atleast you got it

scottg96039 · 09-26-2009, 12:30 PM

Glad you got it, but I bet you were a little sorry when you did!!
Suckers weigh 987 pounds!!
Last time I took mine out it tried to kill me! heheheeeeee
And hey you got the pilot bearing out! They are usually miserable trying to get out.
Sorry about your bell housing.
yours Scott

truckdude239 · 09-26-2009, 12:43 PM

Naw it only weights about 200 pounds we are going to tap a few holes a s make a metal plate to cover the hole

scottg96039 · 09-26-2009, 01:25 PM

Mine's a 5 speed and with the transfer case on it weighs about what a honda car weighs altogether!! And a lopsided top heavy monster it is too!
First time I ever had mine out.........I built a little carriage for my floor jack and rolling it out all nice and polite and kahhhhhwhumpa!
Sucker turned turtle in a heartbeat..... carriage, jack and all!
Me, squeezed under the truck on stands like that... barely got away!
Life of a shadetree mechanic..heh

Found a better balance point from then on.
yours Scott

truckdude239 · 09-26-2009, 04:45 PM

I got a transmission Jack from harbor frieght it has a chain and larger wheel base so makes it easy

refried · 09-26-2009, 05:04 PM

I never had much luck with transmision jacks it seems like it wastes too much time getting it set up properly. I'll try it by hand first, resting it on my chest first then lifting it into place, If it dosen't go in right away something is wrong and I'll get a jack.
Pick up transmissions and transfer cases don't come close to what they weigh from a land Cruiser or a full size truck.

83 · 09-28-2009, 06:42 AM

Am I the only one who thinks 83's came with 5 speeds?? Mines about as stripped down as they come and it has a 5 speed.

Glad you got it out.

I tried the bench pressing method to get mine back in, but even with the t-case off, it wasn't happening...even with a friend! I guess we're wimps. Or just don't really know what we're doing (pretty likely).

ocdropzone · 09-28-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 83

Am I the only one who thinks 83's came with 5 speeds?? Mines about as stripped down as they come and it has a 5 speed.

no you aren't...more than likely someone had swapped a 4 speed into the 83 earlier...
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/

but you never know...

83 · 09-28-2009, 09:22 AM

Thanks. Right, you never know, but it seems to be the common wisdom that by '83, 4 speeds were no longer available. Doesn't matter though, that's not his question..

OldManYota · 10-14-2009, 11:22 PM

I have a 5 speed out of an '83 and a doubled t-case. i have found a rolling floor jack with an extremely wide wheel-base and a larger lifting platform with chains. it starts its lift at about four inches and goes up to 22". with my lift i've had no issues lifting and dropping both trans and TC safely. Unfourtunately i got it used and there is no stickers for make. I have found a similar one in the catalog at the local auto supply shop, but it was over $1100 Canadian.

Jeff D · 10-15-2009, 12:48 PM

I've got an '83 2WD that came stock with an automatic (3 speed with overdrive... so 4 speed I guess?). Only seen one other '83 2WD that came with an auto, and really can't find much online about it. I think they're pretty rare.

09-25-2009, 02:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Umm...huh? You're pulling the tranny? You don't mean won't come out of gear? If the d-shafts are all removed, wires unplugged, shifters removed, and all bolts removed, it should come out just fine. Brain is a little tired so forgive me...but does the slave cylinder bolt to the bellhousing or engine? That could hold things up. Anyways it's hard to say from this end, because we don't know if you've got everything removed. Somebody put a 4 speed in your truck, eh? __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

09-25-2009, 05:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
85excab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Grand Junction, Co Posts: 458	yep, the pilot bearing does that sumtimes, just gotta pull harder. __________________ i drive by brail. Rock Solid Motorsports http://www.rocksolidmotorsports.net/ http://www.lunatic4x4.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

09-25-2009, 05:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Plumbrbob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 925	is the tranny in gear still? putting it in nuetral helps sometimes..... __________________ 79 YotA ThinG Mods: http://www.yotatech.com/blogs/plumbr...list-mods.html

09-26-2009, 05:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
refried Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Republic of Cascadia Posts: 170	I never had much luck with transmision jacks it seems like it wastes too much time getting it set up properly. I'll try it by hand first, resting it on my chest first then lifting it into place, If it dosen't go in right away something is wrong and I'll get a jack. Pick up transmissions and transfer cases don't come close to what they weigh from a land Cruiser or a full size truck. __________________ 1981 Shortbed 4x4 Buick 231 V6, Turbo 350 4" springs 35x12.50 15 Bfg MT 300,000+ miles

09-28-2009, 06:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Am I the only one who thinks 83's came with 5 speeds?? Mines about as stripped down as they come and it has a 5 speed. Glad you got it out. I tried the bench pressing method to get mine back in, but even with the t-case off, it wasn't happening...even with a friend! I guess we're wimps. Or just don't really know what we're doing (pretty likely). __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

09-25-2009, 05:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
truckdude239 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: winston-salem nc Posts: 35	It is an 83 so normal 4 speed we got it out tonight had to cut a hole in the bell houseing and unbolt the clutch the polit bearing was stuck on the end of the shaft

09-25-2009, 06:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
truckdude239 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: winston-salem nc Posts: 35	We had another truck trying to pull it it out with rope around it it would not come out

09-25-2009, 06:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
22RUCRAZY Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: northern california Posts: 118	sounds crazy atleast you got it

09-26-2009, 12:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
scottg96039 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: deep woods Posts: 9	Glad you got it, but I bet you were a little sorry when you did!! Suckers weigh 987 pounds!! Last time I took mine out it tried to kill me! heheheeeeee And hey you got the pilot bearing out! They are usually miserable trying to get out. Sorry about your bell housing. yours Scott

09-26-2009, 12:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
truckdude239 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: winston-salem nc Posts: 35	Naw it only weights about 200 pounds we are going to tap a few holes a s make a metal plate to cover the hole

09-26-2009, 01:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
scottg96039 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: deep woods Posts: 9	Mine's a 5 speed and with the transfer case on it weighs about what a honda car weighs altogether!! And a lopsided top heavy monster it is too! First time I ever had mine out.........I built a little carriage for my floor jack and rolling it out all nice and polite and kahhhhhwhumpa! Sucker turned turtle in a heartbeat..... carriage, jack and all! Me, squeezed under the truck on stands like that... barely got away! Life of a shadetree mechanic..heh Found a better balance point from then on. yours Scott

09-26-2009, 04:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
truckdude239 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: winston-salem nc Posts: 35	I got a transmission Jack from harbor frieght it has a chain and larger wheel base so makes it easy

09-28-2009, 09:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Thanks. Right, you never know, but it seems to be the common wisdom that by '83, 4 speeds were no longer available. Doesn't matter though, that's not his question.. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-14-2009, 11:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
OldManYota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the Kootenays Posts: 7	I have a 5 speed out of an '83 and a doubled t-case. i have found a rolling floor jack with an extremely wide wheel-base and a larger lifting platform with chains. it starts its lift at about four inches and goes up to 22". with my lift i've had no issues lifting and dropping both trans and TC safely. Unfourtunately i got it used and there is no stickers for make. I have found a similar one in the catalog at the local auto supply shop, but it was over $1100 Canadian.

10-15-2009, 12:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jeff D Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Claremont, CA Posts: 31	I've got an '83 2WD that came stock with an automatic (3 speed with overdrive... so 4 speed I guess?). Only seen one other '83 2WD that came with an auto, and really can't find much online about it. I think they're pretty rare. __________________ 1983 2WD Longbed Pickup

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