Robb's Trekker (the B4Runner) - Page 5

4banginRunner · 02-04-2008, 02:01 PM

looks great!, makes me anxious to get workin on my 79

did u use the 4" or 5" font kit?

and hows the steering on the road? good improvement over stock?

ocdropzone · 02-04-2008, 02:03 PM

Thanks 4Bangin..The front springs were some TG 4" springs I bought off ebay, about $200 cheaper than list price. there is a TG employee that sells them periodically. I kind of peiced the rest of it together as cash was available...
I need to fine tune the alignment before I take it more than around the block...but just the little I have driven it the steering response I feel is awesome. My old steering box was pretty warn. Having all new tie rods and an IFS box is a world of difference.

ocdropzone · 02-05-2008, 04:52 PM

UPS dropped off the Aussie locker yesterday, very reasonably prices and fast shipping:

Only thing is there is some slight discoloration on one half, probably a little rust. Am waiting on a response from Aussie to see what they say. I am pretty sure that a little bit work with some fine steel wool would clear it up..

Now my quandary is to put it in the back or the front?? I should have ordered them both a the same time. I have got all the stuff to rebuilt the front end and go throw it in now or put it in the rear. Than take it all apart next fall when I plan on putting in 5.29's

When I do I will be following the install guidance at http://gearinstalls.com/aussielocker09.htm

Victor · 02-05-2008, 06:52 PM

Put it in the rear. I think I'm the only one around here who ran the auto locker in the front like Aussie recommends. I had a Lockright in the front only at the time. It was good going up hills - affected steering downhills - sometimes scary- and my worst stuck is when the ground broke away under my left front tire. As I tried to steer right the truck went almlost exactly sideways because I had no traction in the rear to keep pushing me so that I could continue to steer out of the obstacle. I can get into a lot of places with the rear locker and 2wd that I had a hard time getting to in 4wd before the lockers. BTW - putting the locker up front later is pretty straightforward. Since you reuse the carrier you won't ruin the gear setup.

ocdropzone · 02-10-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

Put it in the rear. I think I'm the only one around here who ran the auto locker in the front like Aussie recommends. I had a Lockright in the front only at the time. It was good going up hills - affected steering downhills - sometimes scary- and my worst stuck is when the ground broke away under my left front tire. As I tried to steer right the truck went almlost exactly sideways because I had no traction in the rear to keep pushing me so that I could continue to steer out of the obstacle. I can get into a lot of places with the rear locker and 2wd that I had a hard time getting to in 4wd before the lockers. BTW - putting the locker up front later is pretty straightforward. Since you reuse the carrier you won't ruin the gear setup.

Victor--thanks for the advice

, I did not even think about the locker steering characteristic..It will go in the rear and the front will get one when $$$ allows it.

ocdropzone · 02-12-2008, 02:27 PM

Was out driving around trying to find something for my wifey for Valentine's Day. Dunno if the U Pull it was really on the way or not

but thought what the heck, I will pull in and see what they had.
Found a set of 93-94 Integra seats that were a little dirty but overall excellant shape:

Spent a little time with some Woolite or whatever was under the sink and they cleaned up pretty good. I am sure they will need another cleaning, but maybe not--it is a trail truck

They fit the bill as far as being narrow enough to clean my planned internal cage (someday) and the brackets actually allow the seats to slide forward, something the current 4Runner seats did not allow--broken sliders

Not sure when I will get them in and thinking about some seat covers, but for the money I am happy..

Order from Brian at Wabfab also showed up today, hope to be able to get the front end done suspensionwise soon too..

WSUWESTON · 02-12-2008, 02:46 PM

Nice looking seats. I went with 96 civic seats. Best mod EVER. My stock bench seat was so uncomfortable.

ocdropzone · 02-12-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUWESTON

Nice looking seats. I went with 96 civic seats. Best mod EVER. My stock bench seat was so uncomfortable.

Thanks, your civic seats were ones I was looking at, will be making some brackets similar to what you did in your thread

***waskillywabbit*** · 02-12-2008, 04:53 PM

You just think "normal" seats are comfortable...don't sit in a set of Mastercraft or PRP seats then.

ocdropzone · 02-12-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

You just think "normal" seats are comfortable...don't sit in a set of Mastercraft or PRP seats then.

Brian--believe me, that is what I would really like to get....it is getting harder and harder to finagle $$$$ out of my wife to finish the truck

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ocdropzone · 02-19-2008, 12:05 PM

Been gutting the basement to get rid of some crappy old paneling and to insulate it and the dumpster was getting picked up this morning so thought I should take out my 4Runner seats that would not slide etc and toss them in the dumpster..

A couple of reasons to replace the seats:
1) get something that will slide forward and back to make it easier for the kids to climb in the back
2) I plan on putting a full cage in sometime and the 4runner seats did not allow enough clearance.

Old seat were very close to the edge of the door sill:

Acura Integra seats are narrower and allow the clearance I will need for the eventual cage:

The seats are not actually mounted yet, I need to fix the floor. I plan on using grade 8 bolts/washers and 3/16" or 1/4" material (have got both in the garage) for the seat mounting area following the floor repair.
Surprisingly the position of the driver's seat/view feels better than with the 4Runner seats, not too bad for $40 out of a junk yard.

Saved the old head rests to try to come up with a way to use them in the back for the kids. Will be making a new rear folding seat soon, the stock Winnebago frame has just about had it.. Guess that is to be expected on a 27 year old truck with umpteen owners...

WSUWESTON · 02-19-2008, 12:21 PM

I used grade 8 bolts for mine. After the fact I realized that stock was not even grade 8. Oh well

ocdropzone · 02-25-2008, 01:55 PM

In the interest of getting my seats installed properly some time soon a friend of mine said there was a couple of first gen trucks over at the local U Pull it.
Went over there to check out them out, took a some tools with me about 1/2 hour or so using these things and $15:

Netted me this hunk of junk and an extra set of door hinges.

to replace this:

Wanted to cut out the whole side but this was the good part, so it will replace the worst of my rust
I would have loved to have grabbed the doors as they were in great shape, but extra space at my house is getting scarce.

WSUWESTON · 02-25-2008, 02:24 PM

Wow, that is some rust. I guess I lucked out on my floor boards.

ocdropzone · 03-04-2008, 04:42 PM

Finally had a little time to get my Integra seats installed.
These things are great, there is a second hole about 1.25" over from the stock front outside mounting hole that lined up just about right, enlarged it just a hair and was able to use the inside front stock mount:

just had to cut off about the lower .25" or so of the stock bracket to allow it to sit flat on the floor.
I think that being able to use the stock front holes makes the install much more stable and install went very fast...
outside rear mount came up with something similar to WSUWeston's brackets:

The rear inside mount is flat, so ended up using the old stack of washers install method

. Used grade 8 fender washers on the underside so that should help spread the load. After cutting out of floor section on a donor truck, I am pretty impressed at how well built these old trucks are...
They will have to come back out though when it fix the rust, needed to get them mounted though so I could still drive the old beast around

***waskillywabbit*** · 03-04-2008, 04:45 PM

Looks good Robb!

WSUWESTON · 03-05-2008, 08:25 AM

Nice install. Keep us up to date on the floorboard swap

02-04-2008, 02:01 PM	#101 (permalink)
4banginRunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mount Carmel, PA Posts: 911	looks great!, makes me anxious to get workin on my 79 did u use the 4" or 5" font kit? and hows the steering on the road? good improvement over stock? __________________ 87 Toyota 4Runner SR5 22RE--5spd swap (W56-A) w/Hurst t-handle shift knob--V6 4.56 swap--1.5" BJ spacers, AAL's & ZUK mod--'85 brown/tan interior--sway bar removed--2.5" Flowmaster 40 series--2.25" exhaust--Battery/Intake swap--late style steering box swap--V6 calipers--1" MC--34" Nitto's--Consistent 22MPG Daily Driver 79 Toyota Longbed 4x4 Awaiting time, money & some parts previous 82 Longbed 4x4 Pickup 90 Toyota 4Runner<3 RIP 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee

02-04-2008, 02:03 PM	#102 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	Thanks 4Bangin..The front springs were some TG 4" springs I bought off ebay, about $200 cheaper than list price. there is a TG employee that sells them periodically. I kind of peiced the rest of it together as cash was available... I need to fine tune the alignment before I take it more than around the block...but just the little I have driven it the steering response I feel is awesome. My old steering box was pretty warn. Having all new tie rods and an IFS box is a world of difference. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others... Last edited by ocdropzone : 02-04-2008 at 02:05 PM.

02-05-2008, 04:52 PM	#103 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	UPS dropped off the Aussie locker yesterday, very reasonably prices and fast shipping: Only thing is there is some slight discoloration on one half, probably a little rust. Am waiting on a response from Aussie to see what they say. I am pretty sure that a little bit work with some fine steel wool would clear it up.. Now my quandary is to put it in the back or the front?? I should have ordered them both a the same time. I have got all the stuff to rebuilt the front end and go throw it in now or put it in the rear. Than take it all apart next fall when I plan on putting in 5.29's When I do I will be following the install guidance at http://gearinstalls.com/aussielocker09.htm __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

02-05-2008, 06:52 PM	#104 (permalink)
Victor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 1,719	Put it in the rear. I think I'm the only one around here who ran the auto locker in the front like Aussie recommends. I had a Lockright in the front only at the time. It was good going up hills - affected steering downhills - sometimes scary- and my worst stuck is when the ground broke away under my left front tire. As I tried to steer right the truck went almlost exactly sideways because I had no traction in the rear to keep pushing me so that I could continue to steer out of the obstacle. I can get into a lot of places with the rear locker and 2wd that I had a hard time getting to in 4wd before the lockers. BTW - putting the locker up front later is pretty straightforward. Since you reuse the carrier you won't ruin the gear setup. __________________ "Turtle" - Green 94 4Runner Looks like one and about as fast JDM altimeter/clinometer, 2002 Sport wheels, 265/75r16 MT/R, , OME stabilizer, BJ Spacers, Cruiser Coils, removed sway bars, rattle can paint for all that peeling clearcoat! Lockright front and rear. Last edited by Victor : 02-05-2008 at 06:54 PM.

02-12-2008, 02:27 PM	#106 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	Was out driving around trying to find something for my wifey for Valentine's Day. Dunno if the U Pull it was really on the way or not but thought what the heck, I will pull in and see what they had. Found a set of 93-94 Integra seats that were a little dirty but overall excellant shape: Spent a little time with some Woolite or whatever was under the sink and they cleaned up pretty good. I am sure they will need another cleaning, but maybe not--it is a trail truck They fit the bill as far as being narrow enough to clean my planned internal cage (someday) and the brackets actually allow the seats to slide forward, something the current 4Runner seats did not allow--broken sliders Not sure when I will get them in and thinking about some seat covers, but for the money I am happy.. Order from Brian at Wabfab also showed up today, hope to be able to get the front end done suspensionwise soon too.. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

02-12-2008, 02:46 PM	#107 (permalink)
WSUWESTON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 448	Nice looking seats. I went with 96 civic seats. Best mod EVER. My stock bench seat was so uncomfortable. __________________ 82 Shortbed with 22r, weber 32/36, civic seats, bedlined interior, 31” LTB’s

02-12-2008, 04:53 PM	#109 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,508	You just think "normal" seats are comfortable...don't sit in a set of Mastercraft or PRP seats then. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle

02-19-2008, 12:05 PM	#111 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	Been gutting the basement to get rid of some crappy old paneling and to insulate it and the dumpster was getting picked up this morning so thought I should take out my 4Runner seats that would not slide etc and toss them in the dumpster.. A couple of reasons to replace the seats: 1) get something that will slide forward and back to make it easier for the kids to climb in the back 2) I plan on putting a full cage in sometime and the 4runner seats did not allow enough clearance. Old seat were very close to the edge of the door sill: Acura Integra seats are narrower and allow the clearance I will need for the eventual cage: The seats are not actually mounted yet, I need to fix the floor. I plan on using grade 8 bolts/washers and 3/16" or 1/4" material (have got both in the garage) for the seat mounting area following the floor repair. Surprisingly the position of the driver's seat/view feels better than with the 4Runner seats, not too bad for $40 out of a junk yard. Saved the old head rests to try to come up with a way to use them in the back for the kids. Will be making a new rear folding seat soon, the stock Winnebago frame has just about had it.. Guess that is to be expected on a 27 year old truck with umpteen owners... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others... Last edited by ocdropzone : 02-19-2008 at 12:21 PM.

02-19-2008, 12:21 PM	#112 (permalink)
WSUWESTON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 448	I used grade 8 bolts for mine. After the fact I realized that stock was not even grade 8. Oh well __________________ 82 Shortbed with 22r, weber 32/36, civic seats, bedlined interior, 31” LTB’s

02-25-2008, 01:55 PM	#113 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	In the interest of getting my seats installed properly some time soon a friend of mine said there was a couple of first gen trucks over at the local U Pull it. Went over there to check out them out, took a some tools with me about 1/2 hour or so using these things and $15: Netted me this hunk of junk and an extra set of door hinges. to replace this: Wanted to cut out the whole side but this was the good part, so it will replace the worst of my rust I would have loved to have grabbed the doors as they were in great shape, but extra space at my house is getting scarce. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

02-25-2008, 02:24 PM	#114 (permalink)
WSUWESTON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 448	Wow, that is some rust. I guess I lucked out on my floor boards. __________________ 82 Shortbed with 22r, weber 32/36, civic seats, bedlined interior, 31” LTB’s

03-04-2008, 04:42 PM	#115 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX Posts: 2,819	93 Integra Seats installed--finally Finally had a little time to get my Integra seats installed. These things are great, there is a second hole about 1.25" over from the stock front outside mounting hole that lined up just about right, enlarged it just a hair and was able to use the inside front stock mount: just had to cut off about the lower .25" or so of the stock bracket to allow it to sit flat on the floor. I think that being able to use the stock front holes makes the install much more stable and install went very fast... outside rear mount came up with something similar to WSUWeston's brackets: The rear inside mount is flat, so ended up using the old stack of washers install method. Used grade 8 fender washers on the underside so that should help spread the load. After cutting out of floor section on a donor truck, I am pretty impressed at how well built these old trucks are... They will have to come back out though when it fix the rust, needed to get them mounted though so I could still drive the old beast around __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker SR5 B4Runner Build '89 Tercel Project POS Gas Saver TREKKER Forum LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS All Toyota Website Search Engine Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

03-04-2008, 04:45 PM	#116 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,508	Looks good Robb! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle

03-05-2008, 08:25 AM	#117 (permalink)
WSUWESTON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 448	Nice install. Keep us up to date on the floorboard swap __________________ 82 Shortbed with 22r, weber 32/36, civic seats, bedlined interior, 31” LTB’s