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Old 11-25-2008, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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rears up front

ok I know this question is alwasy asked but I cant find the answer I need...

my question is how much lift will stock rears up front give me without adding any leafs just the stockpack minus the over loads and how do they ride like that? I have read that its a lil bouncy so ppl add leafs but they add up to 4 different leafs and lifts the truck way to high! I dont want any more than 3-3.5" of total lift and would like to know before I start tearing my truck apart and find out Im not going to get what I am looking for.
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i just finished my 63'''s in the rear so this is my next project... ive been told to find another rear spring set and take leaves from it to make 6 total leaves for each spring...?
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ok I know this question is alwasy asked but I cant find the answer I need...

my question is how much lift will stock rears up front give me without adding any leafs just the stockpack minus the over loads and how do they ride like that? I have read that its a lil bouncy so ppl add leafs but they add up to 4 different leafs and lifts the truck way to high! I dont want any more than 3-3.5" of total lift and would like to know before I start tearing my truck apart and find out Im not going to get what I am looking for.
Likely 0" lift with just a stock rear pack. You'll probably need to add some leaves to get any lift:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspe...l#Update-part3
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Likely 0" lift with just a stock rear pack. You'll probably need to add some leaves to get any lift:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspe...l#Update-part3
how many leaves will I need to add to get about 1" lift and from what leaf pack
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i just finished my 63'''s in the rear so this is my next project... ive been told to find another rear spring set and take leaves from it to make 6 total leaves for each spring...?
how much lift will that give you
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how many leaves will I need to add to get about 1" lift and from what leaf pack
You can read my web page and find out. I got about 1" of lift with 6 leaves from 2 rear packs:
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ok great your write up helps me out alot! Im gonna run as close to the exact leaf pack you are to get about the same .5-1" lift I am looking for
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OK so anther question can I do rears up front but use my stock front main leaf so I don't have to buy banana shackles and keep the overall length the same for steering or does that defeat the whole purpose?
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just buy some pro comp springs for the front they are cheap
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OK so anther question can I do rears up front but use my stock front main leaf so I don't have to buy banana shackles and keep the overall length the same for steering or does that defeat the whole purpose?
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just buy some pro comp springs for the front they are cheap
they give me more lift than I want I want to be able to use what I have and just add to it rather than start over
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here is a tread that might give you some other ideas:
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It's more complex than just putting a set of rear leaves up front. You definitely need an aftermarket shackle, around 5" eye to eye, you need to relocate the shock hoops, a drop front hanger helps a lot, and if you build this pack to only yield 1" of lift it will be extremely under-sprung and ride very soft, often reverse arching the springs. You might want to consider some $160 OME springs, because by the time it's all said and done you will have spent over that on your RUF swap, I promise. Also, different rears offer different amounts of lift, as Roger mentioned in his very well written article posted above.

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see this is what I am looking for!

I was also wondering about getting a rear set and just adding them to my stock front main leaf because the rears have more arch then the fronts

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what about using YJ leafs up front will that work?
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You could just get some random leaf packs that are 2 1/2" wide and start adding to your stock pack, sure. It'll probably help with the lift, but I'm sure it'll ride pretty stiff. I see you already have some pretty long shackles, so those would probably work better with a more arched leaf pack. Just start experimenting, it's way more fun than surfing the forums all day to see what other people have done.

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40s with lots of trimming, probably 5-6" lft.

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^ what did you add to make your spring pack? what are you doing for rears? chevies?
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^ what did you add to make your spring pack? what are you doing for rears? chevies?

Spring pack from top to bottom:
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-trimmed down 89 pick up rear
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The 1980 rear leaves have way more un weighted arch than the 84-89. My first rears up front pack used the main leaves from an 88 4runner, and I got about 2" less lift, but it was only a 5 leaf pack.

Rears are chevys with a 6" shackle and an (ahem) 1" block. The bed of the truck sits 100% perfectly level, that's part of the reason I used the block, plus my u-bolts had about 1" of exposed threads, and I'm trying to make sure those 40s don't rub.

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ok so I guess what I have decided is just get a set of 3" pro comp leafs and mix them with my stock leafs to get a softer and lower ride for cheap
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