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83 · 02-06-2009, 07:13 AM

I'm going to guess $1,400. Anybody else?

It's looking really nice. How's the body work coming along? I really can't wait to see it start getting put back together.

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Flek23 · 02-06-2009, 08:06 AM

Sorry for the confusion, I was in the middle of having a frothy beverage with my neighbor and wanted to answer Yotaboys question...I was just distracted. OME setup with springs, shocks, steering damper, greasable hangar pins and shackles, 8 U-bolts, and bushing set totaled about $1250. Shipping from 4x4 Connection in VA to me in Middle GA was about $150. It took about two weeks from order to delivery. I talked to several OME dealers and their were some cheaper but they talked to me like they had better things to do. It seemed to me to be impossible to get much info on this kit other that everyone likes it. So when I called 4x4 Connection and they were very knowledgeable about the product, answered all my questions, and helped me decide between firm or soft shocks it was a no brainer.

I have been collecting the parts necessary to put the body back together (weatherstripping etc.) I still need the front and rear windshield seal (can't put the windows in until the new headliner is installed anyway). The Line-X guy in town closed his doors a couple weeks ago so I've got to take the bed up to Macon to have it Rhino-lined when Bed prep is complete (going to coat it inside and underside). Then I'll bring it back to the paint shop for final paint. This means I've got to put a tow hitch on my 91 Toy to get it up there. Maybe this is a dumb question but does anyone know if by chance a tow hitch off of a 91 would fit on the 83 once all is said and done. Would be nice.

83 · 02-06-2009, 09:17 AM

Not sure about the tow hitch.

I'm glad you went with 4x4 connection. I really don't understand how some places stay in business, and it's always so refreshing to find people who a) like their job b) know what the hell they're talking about c) are genuinely interested in helping you find the best product and set up for YOU and I like to see those places get more business and get rewarded for that attitude. Don't understand the other mindset.

I remember running all over town trying to get everything I needed...just wait until re-assembly time!

Flek23 · 02-13-2009, 08:09 AM

Stopped by the paint shop this morning and they have the underside of the bed coated. A little concern with it resting on the bottom lip edges of the sides so they are building a wooden cart to hold it up high enough for paint as well as for transport to the Rhino shop. Tailgate was primed but had to talk about the old sealing "caulk/glue" that is chipping off being thoroughly removed and resealed. Over all looking good, here are some update pics.

83 · 02-13-2009, 09:33 AM

Nice. My tailgate still latches, but isn't salvageable for restoration. You're lucky!

Flek23 · 02-13-2009, 11:04 AM

Yeah Zach,
I'm still wondering how my whole bed will ultimately turn out. I'm skeptical, I suppose I've conceded that it may end up being replaced later down the road so what will be will be.

I did an initial test run with the POR-15 today. Finally got that Sandblaster working pretty well. Seems to have been several issues; compressor to small, too much moisture getting through the lines, and to large grit media. Reading the manual I found that the grit needed to be smaller than 80 grit. Funny that the place I bought the blaster from only carried 40/20 grit, go figure. I'm off to the VFW to celebrate my first productive day on the truck in weeks.

83 · 02-13-2009, 12:07 PM

Good to hear. I may be looking for some pointers this summer if I get into some of this. I'll almost definitely repaint my cab this summer, and probably just sand down & prime the rust spots on the bed. Possibly work on the frame a bit too.

Good to see you wanted until afternoon to hit the VFW! Drafternoon.

Flek23 · 02-19-2009, 03:38 PM

Things are starting to pick up momentum again. Sandblaster is working well and POR-15 is getting used up. Went through first 4 oz can today on rear axle parts. Will have to order Marlin's kit soon. Here are some update pictures.

83 · 02-19-2009, 03:52 PM

Those look veeerrry nice.

yotaboy82 · 02-19-2009, 04:03 PM

wow, i am jealous.....i wish i can get my diffs that apart....but my teacher is already giving me heck for taking to cab off and the whole power train out....yea i am only painting my frame

Flek23 · 02-19-2009, 04:04 PM

Thanks Zach! BTW I often hit the old VFW earlier. Some (non-firefighters) have given me a hard time about it. I figure most guys like to have a beer after work, not my fault that I get off work at 0700. it works out pretty good really, by the time my wife gets home at 5 I'm back in the real world. Plus with the 24 on 24 off schedule I don't get myself into a condition that would make it tough to make it in the next day. With all the talk of taxes on the news I may have to get more serious about home brew though. So I'd better get back to work on the 83 so I can make room in my shop.

slacker · 02-19-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flek23

Thanks Slacker, I've been keeping up with yours and it's helped me through many mental blocks as well as keeping momentum. You do very nice work!

right on .. and thanks , patients (as they say) is a vertue .. dont get "caught up" in the "posting on the internet" build your truck at your own pace ..

lookin' like you do nice work as well .

.

83 · 03-12-2009, 11:40 AM

Come on man don't let this work it's way down into the archive. Any news? Just waiting on things, or what?

Richjrosa · 03-12-2009, 12:55 PM

I just found this post today and read the entire thing.. I just want to say you're a huge inspiration and I admire all the work you've done. I can't wait to see how it turns out. I need to find another yota fan in the area to wrench with as it would be much easier with a second set of hands and eyes!!

Flek23 · 03-14-2009, 09:37 PM

Progress has been slow for a bit. Weather, Work, and Wife have not been cooperating as much. I suppose the general state of things must make spending this much on a truck that wouldn't sell for what I have in it seem like a poor decision to my gal. I shouldn't need to spend much for a while so perhaps that will help. Paint shop seems to be moving a wee bit slow due to needing to do some smaller jobs to keep their doors open. I was planning to have the bed lined before final paint but every spray-in bed-liner shop for a hundred miles has gone out of business in the last few months (lineX and Rhino). Chipping away at it a little bit at a time. Just sent hub dials to Wabbit for powder-coating.

83 · 03-16-2009, 06:39 AM

Yeah, I have freinds who shake their heads when they hear what I'm doing and spending, but no wife to get upset at it. Sometimes it may not be a bad thing, though, to have someone question whether spending money on this or that is a good idea.

Richjrosa · 03-16-2009, 10:17 AM

Yeah I feel your pain. A passion like this can be very expensive but you could never find a truck that will be as nice or that you know as well as the one you're doing yourself. Plus sometimes it's both the journey and destination that make the experience worth while. Hang in there when you're finally done it'll be worth it.

slacker · 03-16-2009, 04:47 PM

just wait untill you buy your first 2007 ish Ford F350 ... and it needs head work ... you have to pull the cab off !!! ... could you imagine the bill for that ???? so far my buddy has had to do his twice (under warrenty)

I always use this as my recourse ...

thing is once you have a running toyota ... you can alway fix it for less ! + shes a classic baby !!!

.

83 · 03-17-2009, 06:17 AM

Pull off the cab for head work??!! And they're the one domestic company not taking the bailout money (yet)!! Oh boy, what'll they think of next. Maybe they could make it so you've got to remove the radiator to do an oil change.

Flek23 · 03-22-2009, 07:14 AM

Had to remove the steering linkage to replace spark plugs on my old 97 S-10 Blazer. Of course I tried to come up with an easier solution which resulted in a bloody knuckle, broken windshield, dented (double-wall) quarter panel, and ultimately a Volkswagen. The knuckle and dent because I slipped trying to be a contortionist but the windshield might have had something to do with the tools I started throwing.

83 · 03-23-2009, 06:38 AM

Flek23 · 03-27-2009, 02:00 PM

Finally have all rear axle parts painted (POR-15) and am beginning reassembly. Been a real uphill battle, seems Murphy has set up camp in the shop. Took a few days off of fighting him and fired up the grill. I found it's actually easier to BBQ during a torrential downpour than it is to paint truck parts. Also got my manual hubs back from Wabfab, it will be nice to see them all shiny and new and back on the truck. Rekindled some hope and motivation for me. I plan to post picks of the rear axle reassembled, that's it for now.

83 · 03-27-2009, 02:40 PM

Nice! Reassembly is great. How's the body shop coming along?

I've been spending the last little bit making sure my truck will make it Phoenix next week. I'm actually pretty confident.

Flek23 · 03-28-2009, 06:24 AM

I've been contemplating the larger diameter water pump pulley from LC. I was wandering around my garage the other day trying to find something to do while it was raining and something occurred to me. It was the red 55 on the speedometer. I was thinking that in 1983 the speed limit was still 55 everywhere, so cars weren't engineered to be happy cruising at 70+ (like when I blew my head gasket). Maybe I'm a dope for just catching on to this, but it made me think about all the overheating problems and blown head gaskets folks have with these trucks. I really don't want to get into too much reengineering on mine. Mainly because I doubt my aptitude, so I really want to stay as stock as possible. Maybe I'll just experiment with not exceeding 55-60 and see if it isn't too aggravating before I go changing stuff around.

83 · 03-30-2009, 06:29 AM

I've been thinking a lot about this because of my upcoming trip south. Definitely don't want to overheat. I think before looking into changing the pulley size, an aftermarket radiator or fan would be the way to go. I'll definitely upgrade my radiator before long, but unfortunately I can't afford it before this trip.

Interesting idea! I never really thought of it. I know that the faster you're going, the more air you have pushing past the radiator so that helps cool it down, but I don't know the whole physics of the thing. I would think it would be ok though. These engines are meant to run at high rpm's. Being at high rpm's/high speed seems like you would run cooler than high rpm's/low speed, because of the air flow. Kind of like starting to overheat on an uphill climb, then cooling down once you pick up speed on the downhill (although I guess on the downhill your rpm's drop, too..). I'd be interested to hear what some other people had to say about it.

02-06-2009, 08:06 AM	#102 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Sorry for the confusion, I was in the middle of having a frothy beverage with my neighbor and wanted to answer Yotaboys question...I was just distracted. OME setup with springs, shocks, steering damper, greasable hangar pins and shackles, 8 U-bolts, and bushing set totaled about $1250. Shipping from 4x4 Connection in VA to me in Middle GA was about $150. It took about two weeks from order to delivery. I talked to several OME dealers and their were some cheaper but they talked to me like they had better things to do. It seemed to me to be impossible to get much info on this kit other that everyone likes it. So when I called 4x4 Connection and they were very knowledgeable about the product, answered all my questions, and helped me decide between firm or soft shocks it was a no brainer. I have been collecting the parts necessary to put the body back together (weatherstripping etc.) I still need the front and rear windshield seal (can't put the windows in until the new headliner is installed anyway). The Line-X guy in town closed his doors a couple weeks ago so I've got to take the bed up to Macon to have it Rhino-lined when Bed prep is complete (going to coat it inside and underside). Then I'll bring it back to the paint shop for final paint. This means I've got to put a tow hitch on my 91 Toy to get it up there. Maybe this is a dumb question but does anyone know if by chance a tow hitch off of a 91 would fit on the 83 once all is said and done. Would be nice. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 02-06-2009 at 08:28 AM.

02-06-2009, 09:17 AM	#103 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Not sure about the tow hitch. I'm glad you went with 4x4 connection. I really don't understand how some places stay in business, and it's always so refreshing to find people who a) like their job b) know what the hell they're talking about c) are genuinely interested in helping you find the best product and set up for YOU and I like to see those places get more business and get rewarded for that attitude. Don't understand the other mindset. I remember running all over town trying to get everything I needed...just wait until re-assembly time! __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

02-13-2009, 08:09 AM	#104 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Stopped by the paint shop this morning and they have the underside of the bed coated. A little concern with it resting on the bottom lip edges of the sides so they are building a wooden cart to hold it up high enough for paint as well as for transport to the Rhino shop. Tailgate was primed but had to talk about the old sealing "caulk/glue" that is chipping off being thoroughly removed and resealed. Over all looking good, here are some update pics. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 02-13-2009 at 08:11 AM.

02-13-2009, 09:33 AM	#105 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Nice. My tailgate still latches, but isn't salvageable for restoration. You're lucky! __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

02-13-2009, 11:04 AM	#106 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Yeah Zach, I'm still wondering how my whole bed will ultimately turn out. I'm skeptical, I suppose I've conceded that it may end up being replaced later down the road so what will be will be. I did an initial test run with the POR-15 today. Finally got that Sandblaster working pretty well. Seems to have been several issues; compressor to small, too much moisture getting through the lines, and to large grit media. Reading the manual I found that the grit needed to be smaller than 80 grit. Funny that the place I bought the blaster from only carried 40/20 grit, go figure. I'm off to the VFW to celebrate my first productive day on the truck in weeks. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

02-13-2009, 12:07 PM	#107 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Good to hear. I may be looking for some pointers this summer if I get into some of this. I'll almost definitely repaint my cab this summer, and probably just sand down & prime the rust spots on the bed. Possibly work on the frame a bit too. Good to see you wanted until afternoon to hit the VFW! Drafternoon. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

02-19-2009, 03:38 PM	#108 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Things are starting to pick up momentum again. Sandblaster is working well and POR-15 is getting used up. Went through first 4 oz can today on rear axle parts. Will have to order Marlin's kit soon. Here are some update pictures. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 02-19-2009 at 04:05 PM.

02-19-2009, 03:52 PM	#109 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Those look veeerrry nice. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

02-19-2009, 04:03 PM	#110 (permalink)
yotaboy82 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 259	wow, i am jealous.....i wish i can get my diffs that apart....but my teacher is already giving me heck for taking to cab off and the whole power train out....yea i am only painting my frame __________________ 1982 Toyota 4x4 22r Weber 34/34 complete frame off resto still needs paint 3'' lift 33" mickey tompson baja claws

02-19-2009, 04:04 PM	#111 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Thanks Zach! BTW I often hit the old VFW earlier. Some (non-firefighters) have given me a hard time about it. I figure most guys like to have a beer after work, not my fault that I get off work at 0700. it works out pretty good really, by the time my wife gets home at 5 I'm back in the real world. Plus with the 24 on 24 off schedule I don't get myself into a condition that would make it tough to make it in the next day. With all the talk of taxes on the news I may have to get more serious about home brew though. So I'd better get back to work on the 83 so I can make room in my shop. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

03-12-2009, 11:40 AM	#113 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Come on man don't let this work it's way down into the archive. Any news? Just waiting on things, or what? __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

03-12-2009, 12:55 PM	#114 (permalink)
Richjrosa Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 94	I just found this post today and read the entire thing.. I just want to say you're a huge inspiration and I admire all the work you've done. I can't wait to see how it turns out. I need to find another yota fan in the area to wrench with as it would be much easier with a second set of hands and eyes!!

03-14-2009, 09:37 PM	#115 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Progress has been slow for a bit. Weather, Work, and Wife have not been cooperating as much. I suppose the general state of things must make spending this much on a truck that wouldn't sell for what I have in it seem like a poor decision to my gal. I shouldn't need to spend much for a while so perhaps that will help. Paint shop seems to be moving a wee bit slow due to needing to do some smaller jobs to keep their doors open. I was planning to have the bed lined before final paint but every spray-in bed-liner shop for a hundred miles has gone out of business in the last few months (lineX and Rhino). Chipping away at it a little bit at a time. Just sent hub dials to Wabbit for powder-coating. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

03-16-2009, 06:39 AM	#116 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Yeah, I have freinds who shake their heads when they hear what I'm doing and spending, but no wife to get upset at it. Sometimes it may not be a bad thing, though, to have someone question whether spending money on this or that is a good idea. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

03-16-2009, 10:17 AM	#117 (permalink)
Richjrosa Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 94	Yeah I feel your pain. A passion like this can be very expensive but you could never find a truck that will be as nice or that you know as well as the one you're doing yourself. Plus sometimes it's both the journey and destination that make the experience worth while. Hang in there when you're finally done it'll be worth it.

03-16-2009, 04:47 PM	#118 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	just wait untill you buy your first 2007 ish Ford F350 ... and it needs head work ... you have to pull the cab off !!! ... could you imagine the bill for that ???? so far my buddy has had to do his twice (under warrenty) I always use this as my recourse ... thing is once you have a running toyota ... you can alway fix it for less ! + shes a classic baby !!! . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-17-2009, 06:17 AM	#119 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Pull off the cab for head work??!! And they're the one domestic company not taking the bailout money (yet)!! Oh boy, what'll they think of next. Maybe they could make it so you've got to remove the radiator to do an oil change. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

03-22-2009, 07:14 AM	#120 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Had to remove the steering linkage to replace spark plugs on my old 97 S-10 Blazer. Of course I tried to come up with an easier solution which resulted in a bloody knuckle, broken windshield, dented (double-wall) quarter panel, and ultimately a Volkswagen. The knuckle and dent because I slipped trying to be a contortionist but the windshield might have had something to do with the tools I started throwing. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

03-23-2009, 06:38 AM	#121 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	__________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

03-27-2009, 02:00 PM	#122 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Finally have all rear axle parts painted (POR-15) and am beginning reassembly. Been a real uphill battle, seems Murphy has set up camp in the shop. Took a few days off of fighting him and fired up the grill. I found it's actually easier to BBQ during a torrential downpour than it is to paint truck parts. Also got my manual hubs back from Wabfab, it will be nice to see them all shiny and new and back on the truck. Rekindled some hope and motivation for me. I plan to post picks of the rear axle reassembled, that's it for now. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

03-27-2009, 02:40 PM	#123 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Nice! Reassembly is great. How's the body shop coming along? I've been spending the last little bit making sure my truck will make it Phoenix next week. I'm actually pretty confident. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

03-28-2009, 06:24 AM	#124 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	I've been contemplating the larger diameter water pump pulley from LC. I was wandering around my garage the other day trying to find something to do while it was raining and something occurred to me. It was the red 55 on the speedometer. I was thinking that in 1983 the speed limit was still 55 everywhere, so cars weren't engineered to be happy cruising at 70+ (like when I blew my head gasket). Maybe I'm a dope for just catching on to this, but it made me think about all the overheating problems and blown head gaskets folks have with these trucks. I really don't want to get into too much reengineering on mine. Mainly because I doubt my aptitude, so I really want to stay as stock as possible. Maybe I'll just experiment with not exceeding 55-60 and see if it isn't too aggravating before I go changing stuff around. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

03-30-2009, 06:29 AM	#125 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	I've been thinking a lot about this because of my upcoming trip south. Definitely don't want to overheat. I think before looking into changing the pulley size, an aftermarket radiator or fan would be the way to go. I'll definitely upgrade my radiator before long, but unfortunately I can't afford it before this trip. Interesting idea! I never really thought of it. I know that the faster you're going, the more air you have pushing past the radiator so that helps cool it down, but I don't know the whole physics of the thing. I would think it would be ok though. These engines are meant to run at high rpm's. Being at high rpm's/high speed seems like you would run cooler than high rpm's/low speed, because of the air flow. Kind of like starting to overheat on an uphill climb, then cooling down once you pick up speed on the downhill (although I guess on the downhill your rpm's drop, too..). I'd be interested to hear what some other people had to say about it. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

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