Looking for pics

DerekWlumley · 10-19-2009, 09:03 AM

Looking for some pictures of the front axle and driveshaft angles on bigger yotas.. I have 38 inch tires and im trying to figure out if i need 6 degree caster shims to help my driveshaft. also is a transfercase drop done a lot on toyota?

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kdo58 · 10-19-2009, 08:31 PM

no drop as far as i know of , they cut the knuckles of and rotate them

whokrz · 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM

I would take it to a alignment shop to determine the degree of the shim you need. Then buy the shim and install it into your spring pack. I run 37s with 4 inches suspension lift. I have a 1" drop hanger and 5.5 shackles and have no need for a shim. My springs are close to flat which is very similar to how the stock springs are. Basically the more arch you have in your spring bigger shim.
As for the transfer case most people lift them with a body lift to give the truck a flat belly, I have not heard of anyone lowering them.

BLKNBLU · 10-20-2009, 12:14 AM

Here is a pic from (pg 7) my build thread that is linked in my sig. At the time I posted it I was concerned about the angle as well. OTOH I also figured it was from a TG kit that is pretty much a cookie cutter set up. There are likely thousands of others out there that are not reporting problems. Since then I have left it as is and wheeled a few times without issue.

muddpigg · 10-20-2009, 12:56 AM

If you have drive line vibes from the driveline angle being extreme. You can ditch the double cardan joint cv at the t-case and go to a single like what is in the rear of your truck. Or put a crawler box in to pust the t-case back 6 3/8 to 6 1/2 inches. Plus you can push the axle forward but this my require moving steering bow too. You can cut and rotate the ends like mentioned above, will help point the third out of harms way.

Seems I read someplace that front drive line issues start to showup with more than 4" of front lift. I'm going to SAS before to long and wonder if I'll have issues too.

4crawler has a good write up about drive lines and overcoming problems http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#Measurements

Hope this helps, have only read up on the subject.

DerekWlumley · 10-20-2009, 05:58 AM

Thank you all for the info, I might look into getting rid of the CV design and go with the U joint. I have a 7 inch superlift and my springs are no where near flat, so im guessing thats not helping much. I just bought the truck so im anxious to get it out and test her capabilities.

DerekWlumley · 10-20-2009, 08:38 AM

thats how mine looks now.

ocdropzone · 10-20-2009, 12:49 PM

a High Pinion front diff will also help your front pinion angle...
adding a second TC helped mine

10-19-2009, 08:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
kdo58 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Puyallup Wa. Posts: 126	no drop as far as i know of , they cut the knuckles of and rotate them __________________ 1981, 22r, comp cam 280, weber 38, stage 1 porting,31" toyo mud.

10-19-2009, 10:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
whokrz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Suisun City, California Posts: 351	I would take it to a alignment shop to determine the degree of the shim you need. Then buy the shim and install it into your spring pack. I run 37s with 4 inches suspension lift. I have a 1" drop hanger and 5.5 shackles and have no need for a shim. My springs are close to flat which is very similar to how the stock springs are. Basically the more arch you have in your spring bigger shim. As for the transfer case most people lift them with a body lift to give the truck a flat belly, I have not heard of anyone lowering them. __________________ 1990 4runner, 22re, R151, 4.7, 5.29s, E-locker front, Lock-Rite rear, 37" MTRs, 51" rears all around Trail Reviews http://www.gentryoffroad.com Toyota Factory Service Manuals http://ncttora.com/fsm/index.html

10-20-2009, 12:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,667	Here is a pic from (pg 7) my build thread that is linked in my sig. At the time I posted it I was concerned about the angle as well. OTOH I also figured it was from a TG kit that is pretty much a cookie cutter set up. There are likely thousands of others out there that are not reporting problems. Since then I have left it as is and wheeled a few times without issue. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-20-2009, 12:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
muddpigg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: injured and stateside :( Posts: 1,396	If you have drive line vibes from the driveline angle being extreme. You can ditch the double cardan joint cv at the t-case and go to a single like what is in the rear of your truck. Or put a crawler box in to pust the t-case back 6 3/8 to 6 1/2 inches. Plus you can push the axle forward but this my require moving steering bow too. You can cut and rotate the ends like mentioned above, will help point the third out of harms way. Seems I read someplace that front drive line issues start to showup with more than 4" of front lift. I'm going to SAS before to long and wonder if I'll have issues too. 4crawler has a good write up about drive lines and overcoming problems http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#Measurements Hope this helps, have only read up on the subject. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtr_RvR3sY Balljoints for sale. Open to trades and offers. http://www.yotatech.com/f11/ball-joi.../#post51278784

10-20-2009, 12:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	a High Pinion front diff will also help your front pinion angle... adding a second TC helped mine __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

10-20-2009, 05:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
DerekWlumley Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	Thank you all for the info, I might look into getting rid of the CV design and go with the U joint. I have a 7 inch superlift and my springs are no where near flat, so im guessing thats not helping much. I just bought the truck so im anxious to get it out and test her capabilities.

10-20-2009, 08:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
DerekWlumley Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	thats how mine looks now.

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