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Old 08-16-2012, 04:53 AM
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Talking Metric Tap (and Die) Sets will make your life easier

I have buckets of old Toyota metric bolts and typically a boogered bolt is easily replaced so I mainly use taps.

You are not going to find the Toyota sizes you need in one kit so you will need to buy individual kits. Contact your local industrial supply store or tool guy in a truck. Mine were $40-60 per set of 3 taps. You get a bottoming, plug and taper taps.

Almost all bolts on your Toyota are considered fine threads.

M6x1.0 (coarse)
M8x1.25 (fine)
M10x1.25 (fine)
M12x1.50 (fine)
M12x1.75 (coarse - knuckle studs only place I've found on SFA Toyota)

I have a M12x1.50 die for cleaning up wheel studs but that's about it as I just replace bolts.

When rebuilding a Toyota chasing a tap with some oil through an old nut can really make reassembly so much easier. Putting bolts back in with your fingers and then snugging them up with a tool is nice. Especially nice on front and rear bumper bolts.

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
I have buckets of old Toyota metric bolts and typically a boogered bolt is easily replaced so I mainly use taps.

You are not going to find the Toyota sizes you need in one kit so you will need to buy individual kits. Contact your local industrial supply store or tool guy in a truck. Mine were $40-60 per set of 3 taps. You get a bottoming, plug and taper taps.

Almost all bolts on your Toyota are fine threads.

M6x1.0 (coarse)
M8x1.0 (fine)
M10x1.25 (fine)
M12x1.50 (fine)
M12x1.75 (coarse - knuckle studs only place I've found on SFA Toyota)

I have a M12x1.50 die for cleaning up wheel studs but that's about it as I just replace bolts.

When rebuilding a Toyota chasing a tap with some oil through an old nut can really make reassembly so much easier. Putting bolts back in with your fingers and then snugging them up with a tool is nice. Especially nice on front and rear bumper bolts.

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Great tip. Thanks, waskillywabbit!
I recently had to chase the tap for seatbelt anchor. Welded-in nut on the floor was badly stripped so I back it up with another nut from below (under floor).
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try 8x1.25... at least, that's what it was for the e-locker housing mods

otherwise, yes. tap-n-dies are extremely helpful. mostly taps

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M8x1.25 is coarse threads but useful info

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A LOT of the hardware on these trucks is M8x1.25. Nice catch Ian.
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also has m8x1.25 here

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...9-toyota-bolts

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Come to think of it, I don't know if I've ever come across an M8x1.0 on either of my trucks. Wab where are you finding those?
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Hell it might be M8x1.25 as I was going off my old memory. I'll look at my tap sets tonight.

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Usually 1.25 thread pitch on most of the Toyota fasteners from 8mm to 14mm, outside a few oddballs like the wheel studs and knuckle studs as mentioned. Unlike European mfgs. that bump up the thread pitch as the diameter increases.
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Wink

Don`t mind Wabbit he is getting older!!

Also I guess the Goats can be giving him a hard time.

M6x1.00 is pretty standard .

M8 M10 and M12 all x1.25 it also does not hurt to have thread repair kits of your favorite brand I found it is also good to have the correct tap drill size .

If I need this stuff most of the time it is early Sunday Morning.

The wheel studs are M12x1.50

Another thing to know when sourcing this hardware is Toyota uses JIS hardware(Japanese Industrial Standard ) This is why bolts have the smaller heads for clearance.

Like drill bits I just buy the sizes I need . No reason to have sizes I will never use.:wabbit2:
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Yes it was M8x1.25 so I fixed it. Thanks.

I need to take pics of my sets. Come in nice little carrying cases

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Along with having the correct tap and dies to chase threads before assembly, I have found that the use of an anti seizing compound really helps when disassembly is required. JMHE
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I got a set a couple years ago and it's come in really handy for "prepping" before reassembly. Used it on my hard top mounting holes before putting it back on last summer, and then on my crossmember frame mounting holes when doing the transmission.

+1 on being able to hand-thread a bolt in - a great feeling!
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Having the correct die and taps is the easy part. Knowing what size and pitch the bolt in your hand is the hard part. I find myself going to the autoparts store to use there "thread" tool. It's the one where you can put the bolt into the pre mounted nut or vise versa hole to find the correct size and pitch. That is the key tool to have, in my opnion.

Anyone know where one can be had on the interwebz...?
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McMaster Carr

I've got one mounted on the wall at the shop.

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After a while you can tell just by looking at them. And ya they sell the bolt sizers you see at parts stores but they're hard to find (at least around here). I would just order one online.

Edit - beat by the Wab. I've also thought about making one like this.

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Well I found one. I like the wall mounted approach so a person always knows where it's at. I guess this will pay for itself in the gas money saved running back and forth to the parts store.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#thread-gauges/=iy6fzj
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Definatly a worthwhile investment! Up here in canada land, I bought a complete kit made by mastercraft for $30 on sale. That includes about 30 taps and 30 dies, the fancy holders for them, the the thread pitch checker. All in a fancy carrying case. It contains the most common of metric and imp sizes. I had to buy the more expensive kit (48 piece) as well because I wanted to clean up my head stud holes and that size wasn't in the first kit. That kit was $80 on sale. But included a few other sizes I didn't have so it was worth it.

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
You are not going to find the Toyota sizes you need in one kit so you will need to buy individual kits. Contact your local industrial supply store or tool guy in a truck. Mine were $40-60 per set of 3 taps. You get a bottoming, plug and taper taps.

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You are not going to find the Toyota sizes you need in one kit so you will need to buy individual kits. Contact your local industrial supply store or tool guy in a truck. Mine were $40-60 per set of 3 taps. You get a bottoming, plug and taper taps.
Spam much?

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