Bottle jack on lifted truck

astyles · 06-30-2008, 08:48 AM

I have the bottle jack that came with my truck. I want to do a bolt-on manual hub conversion for my 1995 4runner.

My question is it safe to use the bottle jack as long as I slide jack stands under the axle before I start doing work.

Anyone have experience with this?

p.s. I am also a cheap-o and most likely wouldn't have a use for a floor jack ever again (or so I think). I'd like to try to 'get away' with the stock jack as long as its safe.

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4Runner202020 · 06-30-2008, 08:53 AM

ya since yo just got a 3in body lift and some bigger tires you will be fine... as long as it reaches its safe.

mastacox · 06-30-2008, 08:54 AM

I don't think you even have to jack up the truck to put the manual hubs on... Just unbolt the lockout flange, and put on the manual hubs.

astyles · 06-30-2008, 09:18 AM

Well I think that I am going to jack it up so that I can spin the wheel when I am done to see if my work was done correctly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastacox

I don't think you even have to jack up the truck to put the manual hubs on... Just unbolt the lockout flange, and put on the manual hubs.

dirtoyboy · 06-30-2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astyles

Well I think that I am going to jack it up so that I can spin the wheel when I am done to see if my work was done correctly.

Just drive it..if the hubs engage they work.....

I would recommend buying a nice floor jack....makes it so easy to just slide under an axle and start jacking up...much easier than the bottle jack

904_runner · 06-30-2008, 09:23 AM

X2 on buying a floor jack. They are always usefull to have.

Besides, not sure how, but my cousin ended up using my bottle jack and i think he stripped the inner gears. Garbage now

mastacox · 06-30-2008, 09:40 AM

I have found that the stock mechanical bottle jacks are too small to reach to a useful height on my 4Runner (33 in tires) so I got large hydraulic bottle jack at the local auto parts store.

Bottle jacks themselves aren't dangerous as long as proper jacking techniques are used, but if you're afraid to use it in this situation, how will you use it when you get a flat and NEED it?

dirtoyboy · 06-30-2008, 09:48 AM

Aye, Captain Safety is here to tell you to USE jackstands too.....

NEVER use only the jack for support when working...

I have seen many bottle jacks fail (Havent seen a Toyota one fail yet though)

astyles · 06-30-2008, 09:52 AM

True that. Off to harbor freight! I cringe at the thought of a flat with my 33's. That is an expensive spare to have around...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastacox

I have found that the stock mechanical bottle jacks are too small to reach to a useful height on my 4Runner (33 in tires) so I got large hydraulic bottle jack at the local auto parts store.

Bottle jacks themselves aren't dangerous as long as proper jacking techniques are used, but if you're afraid to use it in this situation, how will you use it when you get a flat and NEED it?

ocdropzone · 06-30-2008, 09:56 AM

X2 on the Jack Stands.
Don't be a Moron like this guy and his wife I recently saw at Home Depot.
She said 'Honey, won't these blocks work for working on your car? They are only $2 each" She was referring to CinderBlocks which have a habit of collapsing..

Always block your tires too with a wheel chock or angled piece of fire wood or something good and stable.

You can always use a piece of 2x12x12 under a bottle jack to gain a couple of inches.

Look at a 33x9.50 for a spare tire.

dirtoyboy · 06-30-2008, 10:02 AM

Dont be THIS guy

**4x4Fink** · 06-30-2008, 10:09 AM

Like mentioned above, the stock jack is capable of doing it - as long as you have adequate access to a safe spot.

I would highly suggest getting a floor jack. You don't need anything fancy, just something that is rated a little bit over what you plan on using it for.

You could also get a set of Wheel Dolly's

Then, while your neighbor is asleep, jack up and move his car 100 yards down the road and face it the opposite direction.

Fink

904_runner · 06-30-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4Fink

You could also get a set of Wheel Dolly's

Then, while your neighbor is asleep, jack up and move his car 100 yards down the road and face it the opposite direction.

About how much do those run? i could see endless pranks with those things and moving peoples/friends cars!

EDIT: Nevermind, the price is not worth it personally.

astyles · 06-30-2008, 10:34 AM

Speaking of wheel dollies- you gotta read this if you haven't heard about it:

http://www.parkingenforcementforum.c...ic.php?f=3&t=3

904_runner · 06-30-2008, 11:32 AM

Dang, i just read that whole thing, that is rediculous.

astyles · 06-30-2008, 11:44 AM

I'm very proud of the guy who knows the law and took on these people. Too many Americans don't stand up for their rights and I think its true to say that if we don't use our rights we will lose them.

904_runner · 06-30-2008, 11:48 AM

Yup, good thing he did what he did! I still want to hear the news about the final outcome

ocdropzone · 06-30-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astyles

Speaking of wheel dollies- you gotta read this if you haven't heard about it:

http://www.parkingenforcementforum.c...ic.php?f=3&t=3

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904_runner

Dang, i just read that whole thing, that is rediculous.

That whole thing made me happy I don't live in Arizona and that the HOA in my neighborhood is ends a block from me so they can't B&M about my 4 Toyotas

Fink:
You idea reminds me of in college when I left my Karmann Ghia unlocked. I got a call in the middle of the night from a guy claiming to be an Oregon State Trooper telling me my car was involved in a robbery. The 'tropper' was a friend of mine. They had pushed my car across campus...Good times

astyles · 06-30-2008, 11:53 AM

I sent the GM of the company an email:

I hope that you know that your actions against the people of Arizona is going to cost your company it's business. If not your company's business then hopefully your job. If you think you are doing any good for anyone but yourself you are sadly mistaken. I hope you are proud of yourself because you are the bad guy and nobody likes you.

Sincerely,
Everyone

06-30-2008, 08:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
4Runner202020 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Collins Posts: 593	ya since yo just got a 3in body lift and some bigger tires you will be fine... as long as it reaches its safe. __________________ 96 4Runner, 4in lift (883's w/ top plate spacer, Land Cruiser's 8 coil) Pro Comp Xtreme AT 315/75/16's. rear e-locker *I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE JEEP THING THATS WHY I HAVE A TOYOTA!!*

06-30-2008, 08:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
mastacox Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Alamos, NM Posts: 2,650	I don't think you even have to jack up the truck to put the manual hubs on... Just unbolt the lockout flange, and put on the manual hubs. __________________ Brian 1998 4Runner SR5

06-30-2008, 09:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	X2 on buying a floor jack. They are always usefull to have. Besides, not sure how, but my cousin ended up using my bottle jack and i think he stripped the inner gears. Garbage now __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

06-30-2008, 09:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
mastacox Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Alamos, NM Posts: 2,650	I have found that the stock mechanical bottle jacks are too small to reach to a useful height on my 4Runner (33 in tires) so I got large hydraulic bottle jack at the local auto parts store. Bottle jacks themselves aren't dangerous as long as proper jacking techniques are used, but if you're afraid to use it in this situation, how will you use it when you get a flat and NEED it? __________________ Brian 1998 4Runner SR5

06-30-2008, 09:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,706	X2 on the Jack Stands. Don't be a Moron like this guy and his wife I recently saw at Home Depot. She said 'Honey, won't these blocks work for working on your car? They are only $2 each" She was referring to CinderBlocks which have a habit of collapsing.. Always block your tires too with a wheel chock or angled piece of fire wood or something good and stable. You can always use a piece of 2x12x12 under a bottle jack to gain a couple of inches. Look at a 33x9.50 for a spare tire. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others Last edited by ocdropzone; 06-30-2008 at 09:57 AM.

06-30-2008, 10:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	Like mentioned above, the stock jack is capable of doing it - as long as you have adequate access to a safe spot. I would highly suggest getting a floor jack. You don't need anything fancy, just something that is rated a little bit over what you plan on using it for. You could also get a set of Wheel Dolly's Then, while your neighbor is asleep, jack up and move his car 100 yards down the road and face it the opposite direction. Fink __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1." Last edited by 4x4Fink; 06-30-2008 at 10:11 AM.

06-30-2008, 10:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
astyles Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 100	Speaking of wheel dollies- you gotta read this if you haven't heard about it: http://www.parkingenforcementforum.c...ic.php?f=3&t=3 __________________ 1995 Toyota 4Runner Limited Mods so far: Eagle Offroad Alloy Wheels TrXus 33x12.50R16LT M/T's 3" body lift New deck and speakers all around To do list: Tune-up Aisin manual hub conversion (on the way) Drive it!

06-30-2008, 11:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	Dang, i just read that whole thing, that is rediculous. __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

06-30-2008, 11:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
astyles Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 100	I'm very proud of the guy who knows the law and took on these people. Too many Americans don't stand up for their rights and I think its true to say that if we don't use our rights we will lose them. __________________ 1995 Toyota 4Runner Limited Mods so far: Eagle Offroad Alloy Wheels TrXus 33x12.50R16LT M/T's 3" body lift New deck and speakers all around To do list: Tune-up Aisin manual hub conversion (on the way) Drive it!

06-30-2008, 11:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	Yup, good thing he did what he did! I still want to hear the news about the final outcome __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

06-30-2008, 11:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
astyles Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 100	I sent the GM of the company an email: I hope that you know that your actions against the people of Arizona is going to cost your company it's business. If not your company's business then hopefully your job. If you think you are doing any good for anyone but yourself you are sadly mistaken. I hope you are proud of yourself because you are the bad guy and nobody likes you. Sincerely, Everyone __________________ 1995 Toyota 4Runner Limited Mods so far: Eagle Offroad Alloy Wheels TrXus 33x12.50R16LT M/T's 3" body lift New deck and speakers all around To do list: Tune-up Aisin manual hub conversion (on the way) Drive it!

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