Advice on how to remove sheared off bolts

harpen123 · 06-14-2007, 07:48 PM

I broke two bolts in my lower balljoint they are high grade bolts so drilling into them has been almost impossible. I tried to use an ez-out and broke a smaller one then couldnt get the larger one to bite into the metal enough. Does anyone know a better way to get these bolts out. they are down past flush into the bolt holes.

***waskillywabbit*** · 06-14-2007, 07:51 PM

Machine shop.

harpen123 · 06-14-2007, 07:56 PM

kinda what I was afraid of.

***waskillywabbit*** · 06-14-2007, 07:59 PM

Somone with the proper tools and know how can take it out easily.

I've had a few fubared creations of my own and the machinist at work always makes fun of me for not being able to get it fixed like he does. That is why I just concede and take it to him before I make it even WORSE.

Good luck.

harpen123 · 06-14-2007, 08:03 PM

any advice on where to look or whether I should go ahead and get a new spindle.

Avsfreak1234 · 06-14-2007, 08:22 PM

left handed drill bits?

harpen123 · 06-14-2007, 08:25 PM

is that the same thing as an ezout where u drill a hole then put the bit in backwards and try and back it out?

harpen123 · 06-14-2007, 08:27 PM

nevemind I looked them up. Yeah the main problem is drilling into a grade 8 is no easy task.

***waskillywabbit*** · 06-14-2007, 08:36 PM

I'd price a new or used spindle and what the machine shop would charge you...then go with whichever is cheaper.

If you were local I could probably get it done for nothing.

**Lysmachia** · 06-14-2007, 09:01 PM

x2 on a replacement spindle. Had to do the same thing for TC when his hub sheared off... (and 6 of the 8 hub bolts were down in there) getting 1 out is no easy task, let alone 6 of em!

Bigblock · 06-16-2007, 07:50 PM

A good ;sharp drill should have no problem with a grade 8 bolt or stud.

82yota · 06-16-2007, 08:51 PM

If its not too deep in the hole you could try and get a nut the same size and weld down the hole of the nut into the bolt and let it cool. Then take the torch to it, heat the newly made bolt up till its cherry red, then douse it with water to cool it fast. This will cause the bolt to expand, which expands the hole its in a bit then when you cool it fast it shrinks but the hole is still that little bit bigger. It may work. I don't know how deep the hole is or anything but if its not too deep its worth a try. But you need to be a decent welder to not screw everything up badly too.

chimmike · 06-28-2007, 06:41 PM

Carbon drill bits from Sears. They're like $60 for a small pack of 'em, but I've drilled through grade 8 bolts with them......they're damn strong.

RustBucket · 06-28-2007, 06:49 PM

I'd get a pro to do it and ask them to show you how they dun it

**Elvota** · 06-28-2007, 07:42 PM

1. Get hold of Bill and Ted.
2. Ask them if you can borrow their super cool phone booth thingy.
3. Go back to just before you broke the bolts.
4. Post on YT, "How do I break loose a stubborn bolt without breaking bolt?"
5. Rock out to some "Wyld Stallyns" while you wait for responses.
6. Remove bolts per YT'rs suggestion.
7. Finish repair.

harpen123 · 06-28-2007, 09:57 PM

damn if I had only had YT at tellico this guy could have helped me.

06-14-2007, 07:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	Advice on how to remove sheared off bolts I broke two bolts in my lower balljoint they are high grade bolts so drilling into them has been almost impossible. I tried to use an ez-out and broke a smaller one then couldnt get the larger one to bite into the metal enough. Does anyone know a better way to get these bolts out. they are down past flush into the bolt holes. __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"

06-14-2007, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,511	Machine shop. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle

06-14-2007, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	kinda what I was afraid of. __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"

06-14-2007, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,511	Somone with the proper tools and know how can take it out easily. I've had a few fubared creations of my own and the machinist at work always makes fun of me for not being able to get it fixed like he does. That is why I just concede and take it to him before I make it even WORSE. Good luck. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle

06-14-2007, 08:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	any advice on where to look or whether I should go ahead and get a new spindle. __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"

06-14-2007, 08:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Avsfreak1234 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Estes Park Co Posts: 430	left handed drill bits? __________________ My Rides 98 Taco 4X4 2.7 2003 Gary Fisher Sugar Cessna 172...not really mine

06-14-2007, 08:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	is that the same thing as an ezout where u drill a hole then put the bit in backwards and try and back it out? __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"

06-14-2007, 08:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	nevemind I looked them up. Yeah the main problem is drilling into a grade 8 is no easy task. __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"

06-14-2007, 08:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,511	I'd price a new or used spindle and what the machine shop would charge you...then go with whichever is cheaper. If you were local I could probably get it done for nothing. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle

06-14-2007, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lysmachia Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,618	x2 on a replacement spindle. Had to do the same thing for TC when his hub sheared off... (and 6 of the 8 hub bolts were down in there) getting 1 out is no easy task, let alone 6 of em! __________________ Molly aka Lysmachia 93 4 Runner SAS - All Fixed in Junk Yard Goodness Get your 4x4 VIDEO pr0n here

06-16-2007, 07:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bigblock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Taylorshole,Mississippi Posts: 812	A good ;sharp drill should have no problem with a grade 8 bolt or stud.

06-16-2007, 08:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
82yota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 273	If its not too deep in the hole you could try and get a nut the same size and weld down the hole of the nut into the bolt and let it cool. Then take the torch to it, heat the newly made bolt up till its cherry red, then douse it with water to cool it fast. This will cause the bolt to expand, which expands the hole its in a bit then when you cool it fast it shrinks but the hole is still that little bit bigger. It may work. I don't know how deep the hole is or anything but if its not too deep its worth a try. But you need to be a decent welder to not screw everything up badly too.

06-28-2007, 06:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,539	Carbon drill bits from Sears. They're like $60 for a small pack of 'em, but I've drilled through grade 8 bolts with them......they're damn strong. __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

06-28-2007, 06:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
RustBucket Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 890	I'd get a pro to do it and ask them to show you how they dun it __________________ Rust-Free '88 4Runner 22re (Reed Speed & Sport rebuild with Engnbldr components and 268 cam), 4.88's open rear and front TrueTrac. Homemade sliders, TJM front bumper W6000, custom rear bumper, Budbuilt crossmember & skid. Honda GXV270 9hp piston hanging from the back, in case you ever wonder.

06-28-2007, 07:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,458	1. Get hold of Bill and Ted. 2. Ask them if you can borrow their super cool phone booth thingy. 3. Go back to just before you broke the bolts. 4. Post on YT, "How do I break loose a stubborn bolt without breaking bolt?" 5. Rock out to some "Wyld Stallyns" while you wait for responses. 6. Remove bolts per YT'rs suggestion. 7. Finish repair. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Sheared rear swaybar bolts, Too late for easy out - What should I use?	mjwalfredo	Tool Time	7	08-09-2007 06:18 AM
Got new Muffler- how do I remove the rusty bolts?	CILO	86-95 Trucks & 4Runners	8	02-03-2006 11:54 AM
Quick bodylift question: Do I have to remove these bolts?	Crux	95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners	2	05-14-2005 11:34 AM
HELP! I sheared off a bolt!	4mydogs	95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners	3	12-07-2004 08:03 PM

06-28-2007, 09:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 419	damn if I had only had YT at tellico this guy could have helped me. __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?"