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Old 10-22-2008, 11:08 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Good call on the tires.
I've been thinking it over and I think I might give it a go
Worst case I yank it and sell it to an interested yotatecher and eat $100
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Good call on the tires.
I've been thinking it over and I think I might give it a go
Worst case I yank it and sell it to an interested yotatecher and eat $100
Aussie locker's don't seem to depreciate much when second hand. You'll loose shipping x2 maybe- at least here in Canada.
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Yeah, I do think it's sort of funny. Can't you see a roomful of Toyota engineers looking at a relay rod, scratching their heads and saying 'Hmmm, this part wore out after 200,000 miles and 16 years, this is just unacceptable.'
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Aussie locker's don't seem to depreciate much when second hand. You'll loose shipping x2 maybe- at least here in Canada.
Thanks for all your help.
Definitely picking one up next paycheck
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Thanks for all your help.
Definitely picking one up next paycheck
The first time I did the install, I messed it up as I didn't read the instructions. The really key points are:
  • not mixing up which bearing races and adjuster caps came from which side
  • marking the position of the adjuster nut relative to the third member housing
  • tightening the backlash to zero THEN backing it off til you reach your mark.
  • lots of anti-seize on the adjuster nuts
  • don't tighten the bearing caps until the the ajuster nut is in place.

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UPDATE 8/11/08

The rain has started. Been driving the truck a lot lately- 30 mi through the city now. My tires are terrible in the rain. Whenever the tires start slipping, I shift into 4wd (which is absolutely fine on wet pavement). Then its really grips well, with no chance of loosing traction then.
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Hey Matt thanks a lot for writting this review. Overall I think you made my mind and I'm gunna get an Aussie up front for my '86. Thanks.
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Okay, not to hijack too much.

hope you don't mind matt, but being the lockright is similar to the aussie. im just going to give my thoughts.

it has been raining here and honestly i haven't had a slight problem with the locker in the back. I try to lock up sometimes and spin around turns from a stop and sometimes it won't let me. I still would highly recommend the locker over open!
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Okay, not to hijack too much.

hope you don't mind matt, but being the lockright is similar to the aussie. im just going to give my thoughts.

it has been raining here and honestly i haven't had a slight problem with the locker in the back. I try to lock up sometimes and spin around turns from a stop and sometimes it won't let me. I still would highly recommend the locker over open!
No apologies necessary. In fact, the more opinions on auto lockers, the better. They will all behave the same in a corner if you put your foot down- but I find this behavior to be acceptable. I want to dispel the notion that having an auto locker is like driving around with an axe-murderer in the back seat (to borrow from Jeremy Clarkson).

Anyone else got an opinion on any auto locker? Share it.

I think I should at least get a hat by now from Aussie Lockers.
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Here's another review

http://www.yotatech.com/f116/another...review-159048/
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Are you noticing much extra tire wear Jay? I have, the front used to wear faster, now the rears do.
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Thanks for a great review!
My Aussie comes this week. I should have it and my new gears 4.88's in by next week
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I've got Aussies front and rear and have no complaints. Cheap and easy to install. Great customer service. Went to Moab and they were flawless. One complaint - My truck can do more than I am willing to try.
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I've got Aussies front and rear and have no complaints. Cheap and easy to install. Great customer service. Went to Moab and they were flawless. One complaint - My truck can do more than I am willing to try.
Ever driven in 4wd with the front Aussie in snow? You are in Colorado, thus you should be pretty qualified to give a real world test.

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My Aussie comes this week. I should have it and my new gears 4.88's in by next week
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How does the locker up front handle in the snow. Would be tempted to go front and rear with them but am worried about handling in snow and ice on road. Does driving in 4hi level it out?
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Hey you Blokes i live in Australia. I've never heard of the "Aussie" locker. We've got "Detroit" lockers here. Are they one of the same with a marketing ploy?
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Not good on icy or snow packed roads! To make things better you can just lock one hub and its much better. There great in deep snow. I bought a twin stick kit anticipating trouble turning in 4wd but because of the way the Aussies work you don't really need a twin stick. You need to be patient turning in 4wd but in my opinion a twin stick is not necessary.

Detriots and Aussies are not the same. Two different companies. I heard a rumor that the guy that started Aussie uses to work for Detroit.
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Not good on icy or snow packed roads! To make things better you can just lock one hub and its much better. There great in deep snow. I bought a twin stick kit anticipating trouble turning in 4wd but because of the way the Aussies work you don't really need a twin stick. You need to be patient turning in 4wd but in my opinion a twin stick is not necessary.

Detriots and Aussies are not the same. Two different companies. I heard a rumor that the guy that started Aussie uses to work for Detroit.
They Aussie guy (Bill something or other) helped design the Lock RIght.

With one hub locked, does the truck pull to one side at all? I was thinking you could hack into the ADD and manually control when to engage the drivers side wheel for true 4wd.
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Hey you Blokes i live in Australia. I've never heard of the "Aussie" locker. We've got "Detroit" lockers here. Are they one of the same with a marketing ploy?

Popular automatic lockers include:

Detroit makes the EZ Locker (discontinued I hear) and the Soft Locker (full case replacement).

Powertrax makes the Lock Right and the No Slip/No Spin.

TORQ Masters make the Aussie Locker.

4wd Systems makes the Lokka, but as far as I can tell, it is available only in Ozland.

I don't think there is any rebadging. These locker are pretty simple devices, so there aren't many differences between the lunchbox locker that you'd notice without looking closely. The angle of the teeth and the alloys seem to be the major difference. THe No Slip/No slip has a synchro ring, but it doesn't look much different either.
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I knew he was from one of the other locker companies, I just wasn't sure which one.

It does pull, but it acts much better on icy roads with only one hub locked. Of course on my '83 I have manual hubs so if you lock the right hub and it does pull, it pulls you out of the way of on coming traffic. I think no matter what locker you choose, if you lock the front it will not perform great on icy roads.
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OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!!!!
I am jumping up and down. I ordered my Aussie today. It will be here by Fri. they said.
Now I gotta WAIT and listen for the big brown truck.
Thank God I have Sugarland to get me through.
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OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!!!!
I am jumping up and down. I ordered my Aussie today. It will be here by Fri. they said.
Now I gotta WAIT and listen for the big brown truck.
Thank God I have Sugarland to get me through.
I got one of their songs stuck in my head.
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SNOW TEST:

I've spent the last couple days driving around in snow, not a tonne of driving around, but enough to come up with some opinions. I'm going to answer my own questions that I had before giving it a good test in snow.

Is it dangerous on ice and snow?
Simply put, not if you're careful. That's to say, if you try whipping around a corner in summer/ all terrains on 2wd in packed snow/ice you WILL start to spin as soon as you spin your tires. Drive around carefully in 4wd taking corners slowly (slow enough that you don't feel pull to the inside of the corner) in summer tires and you'll be fine- if the back steps out (and it may) back off the throttle and it steps back into line. The truck feels quite stable in 4wd rear locked, although i did manage a 180 on a sharp bend on shear ice, though I admit I may have been testing the limits a bit on purpose. Could I have gotten around the corner without spinning, yes, easily.

Is it much of a benefit in forward/ reverse directional traction?
This was a bit of a surprise. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference at all. It doesn't feel any more capable than it did with open diffs last year. My tires have worn down a little bit, but they're still around 50-60% (partially thanks to the locker). To sum up, with my lousy tires, the rear locker seems to give me a negligible benefit in on road forward/reverse traction (as opposed to cornering ability, where it is a slight detractor).

How bad is the side slipping on a side slope?
Its not terrible, but it is annoying. I parked in a lot the other day on the ski hill and couldn't get out. I had to tether myself to a HJ60 (beautiful truck) to prevent hitting the car beside me as whenever my tires spun, my back end would walk a couple inches towards the car. It think it may have sideslipped a bit if the diff were open.

The verdict, thus far:
Its not as dangerous as some would suggest on internet forums, but you do have to be careful as it does add another element to winter driving.
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It is here..
Sooooo Matt, you comin over to install this thing?? Jk
Should be in and locking by the end of the week!

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It is here..
Sooooo Matt, you comin over to install this thing?? Jk
Should be in and locking by the end of the week!
You get the third member out and I'll put the locker in and reset the BL, I like that part. I'll give you some pointers when I got a minute later.
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