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Old 07-04-2008, 04:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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All I can say is that, on loose gravel going uphill, the locker stays locked all the time because of the wheel slip. I wouldn't want that on a steering axle as it will be impossible to steer. Get a rear locker, learn to drive it and you'll be amazed where it can go. Then, if you really need a front locker, worry about that then.
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Yeah, I do think it's sort of funny. Can't you see a roomful of Toyota engineers looking at a relay rod, scratching their heads and saying 'Hmmm, this part wore out after 200,000 miles and 16 years, this is just unacceptable.'

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Old 07-08-2008, 10:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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All I can say is that, on loose gravel going uphill, the locker stays locked all the time because of the wheel slip. I wouldn't want that on a steering axle as it will be impossible to steer. Get a rear locker, learn to drive it and you'll be amazed where it can go. Then, if you really need a front locker, worry about that then.

Hi Matt,

Agreed!

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:11 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Honoured to have helped Yotatech's only member from Pakistan! Post up some wheeling pictures, I'd like to see what its like.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:32 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I have to say that this is the best thread I have read on lockers. I have been wanting one for my '87 4Runner for a while now and I think that the Aussie is the way to go.
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Alright, I installed 4.56 gears and filled up the diff with 80W140 gear oil- that heavy stuff. The locker is a noticeably quieter and smoother. You still aren't going to forget its there, but its just not so in-your-face.

I just regeared, I have 31" tires. You can feel the gearing difference, hills where I would have been struggling to stay in third, I accelerate (slowly). Alas, you're not going to be fooled into thinking there's a V8 under the hood though. I think it would be fun to have 4.88s.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:31 PM   #57 (permalink)
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this is a great thread! I've been debating between the Lock Right, No Slip, or an Aussie. This thread is really making me lean towards the Aussie.

Also, I was wondering what you guys thought of used lockers? I've seen some go for pretty good prices if you catch them at the right time. But do you think I'd be better off just forking out the extra $$ to get a new one?
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Hey matt, well or anyone else that can help me.

I recently put some 85w140 or something close to that, gear oil in the rear diff to help smooth out the lockright. Ive noticed the last two days that when i first start driving it, when i shift lets say to 4th gear doing like 35 it kinda lurches, (almost like the locker is locking and unlocking, but im not sure) then today while driving to work it dawned on me that these last two days has been much cooler in the mornings (maybe between 50-60 degrees F) and that is when i experienced the problems. Then after i drive it for a while i notice the lurching will go away which makes me think that it has somthing to do with the consistency of the gear oil. Have you/anyone expereienced this?

I also noticed that it seems like gear oil might be leaking from the flange that the rear driveshaft connects to on the transfercase side, (oil on the underside of the truck in that area) which concerned me to make me think that maybe this is what was causing the above problem(maybe transfercase/trans was taking a crap, but now i don't think so) but i wonder if i need to tighten the nut that holds that flange on because i have heard some people say those have come loose on them.

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Hey Mike. You will need to replace the seal on that flange. I did the one on my front shaft. VERY easy to do. Took no more then an hour and a half taking my time..

Matt - Great writeup! Im glad to see its helping other members make their own decisions on autolockers, and not listin to the hype created by the select few...

I find my lockright to be smooth. I mean im so used to it by now I know all the quirks! People who drive with me never notice a thing unless it pops on me I love the hood lifting/tilting thing, makes me feel like my truck has more power then it does
Im insterested in the heavy gear oil idea, im running the 75w-80 Amsoil synth. On one hand I want to see how some heavy duty 140 would feel, but my pricy fluid has only 20k on it
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Jay, Time to rebuild my rear end SO LOCK IT, where did you get your lockright from? trying to get a good deal here.
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yea i know jay, out of town at the moment so no can do.

btw, i think that learching i was trying to describe might be from the tps. I think the used one i put on there took a dump, we will see when i get to pull the throttle body off to get to it(the bottom screw on the tps is stripped )
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:34 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Mike, that doesn't sound like a problem with the diff/ locker IMO. That's odd that the locker acts up with the thicker viscosity (colder) oil. I found the opposite to be true. I think I may just run straight Vaseline in my diff. That ought to be even better than 80W140. With my current oil, it doesn't seem to change behavior hot or cold.

Again, to summaries my thoughts on auto lockers:
In my opinion, autolockers provide an increase in traction almost similar to going from 2wd to 4wd. They are not as smooth as an open diff on pavement, but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks- even on a daily driver mostly street truck. The locker has never gotten me into trouble before, however I have gotten myself into trouble knowingly misusing the locker. (see below)

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Hey jay, the seal on the flange, what size socket does it take to get the nut off?

And matt, i think it is smoother with the thicker oil, im starting to believe i need to replace the tps again, i think that it is acting up a lot, giving me the impression that it is making the truck learch. Im just out of state so i cant work on it. (btw with the tps on the 3vze can you just take the throttle body off to get the tps off? The bottom screw is stripped)
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Hey Mike. You will need to replace the seal on that flange. I did the one on my front shaft. VERY easy to do. Took no more then an hour and a half taking my time..

Matt - Great writeup! Im glad to see its helping other members make their own decisions on autolockers, and not listin to the hype created by the select few...

I find my lockright to be smooth. I mean im so used to it by now I know all the quirks! People who drive with me never notice a thing unless it pops on me I love the hood lifting/tilting thing, makes me feel like my truck has more power then it does
Im insterested in the heavy gear oil idea, im running the 75w-80 Amsoil synth. On one hand I want to see how some heavy duty 140 would feel, but my pricy fluid has only 20k on it

I've been thinking about gear oil weight lately. I think mostly it was a reduction in noise compared to a 80W90, but I'm unsure whether its any smoother actually. I think I was initially mistaken. The Redline Shockproof did kind of suck with this locker.

Jay: Don't fix what ain't broken, if your oil is working, stick with it.

Anyone know if tire size (diameter) affects locker performance?
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Um Matt, i went from 31X10.50's to 33X12.50's and didn't notice a difference on the locker performance.
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i put an aussie in the rear of my 84 and i love it, for the price you cant beat it! i am going to get a selectable for the front because driving the icey roads in alaska locked front and rear is crazy, but i have not had any problems with the rear but i am really conservative in the snow (ltb's dont do much on glare ice unless siped, i learned the hard way!)

I have never heard of tire size affecting anything other than how many times it clicks in the turns, just less revolutions. I guess if you went too big you might have to worry about strength but you probably have to get 40+ before i would worry about that
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What about a Truetrack for your front? I've decided I want one for my truck up front. I understand it's great on snow, and that's when I need the most traction.
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