Trail 404, AZ revisited

**Elvota** · 04-08-2007, 12:52 AM

Westy and I decided to head back out to the Camp Creek area and try to tie in a unexplored technical side canyon with Trail 404 and then on to the Verde. We had originally hoped to cross the Verde and tie this all in with Log Corral... but the big river only allowed one crossing, and we needed a few more to make it all work.

Saw a Gila monster in the creek right of the bat. A rare find, even in AZ.

First obstacle into the tech section was pretty tight...

Sure it will fit... well, pretty sure... well, just go slow

Westy flexing through

Encroaching foliage (I swear there is a trail here)

We walked up the creek to get an idea how doable the unknown tech sections where going to be. Both looked possible, so we decide to give them a try.

Entering first obstacle

Westy on the same

Bit off camber with an aggressive twist... but traction was stout

Westy needs only one rear wheel

Hmmmm.... no way to back up now

The golden line

Entering section two

Westy at the same spot

Sure didn't look that steep before

I'd like to personally thank Marlin for this controllable wheelstand

Westy makes it look a little too easy

Trail 404 has this amazingly tight box canyon. How tight? If Westy was 1" wider at the tires he would still be wedged in there as I type this.

"Oh man... you've got plenty of room... quit your whining!!"

Assessment of vehicle width has never been one of my strong points.

This section feels like a mini version of Lions Back. Very mini, but still fun

Finally made it to the Verde. Was a great way to go as a slot canyon just ends right at the bank. Girlfriend tested the waters depth. (I'll have to keep her around

)

I crossed first... no issues

Westy followed just as easily

After screwing around trying to find a route to Log Corral, we were defeated by the water level and returned to civilization.

Parting shot

All in all it was a great day with some very tight trails with amazing views. The desert is close to full bloom. For the locals... get out there and enjoy it before things get to hot.

Elton · 04-08-2007, 12:59 AM

looks like you guys had a good time

byron4 · 04-08-2007, 01:48 AM

very cool pictures. thanks for sharing!

westy44runner · 04-08-2007, 07:53 PM

Great day yesterday...thanks Micki for the good photos!

This really shows a good perspective of the climbs out of the wash -

Henrythewound · 04-08-2007, 08:38 PM

Wow, I would crap myself during some of those ascents. I'm alway worried stuff will roll under waaaay milder conditions. Looks awesome, maybe someday I'll be willing to put my runner through this kind of ringer. Good pics!

Symon623 · 04-09-2007, 10:41 AM

Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?

Westy, whats your OAW?

**Elvota** · 04-09-2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symon623

Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?

The river depth stopped the progress. Where we crossed the first time was wide enough to drop the water level. Upstream the banks get narrow and steepen, making the water deeper and faster.

We might have been able to ford again, but we would have had to cross 3 more times to make this particular route work. Although, I have been looking online through some satellite shots and believe I have found another way to link to Log Corral with only 1 river crossing.

Symon623 · 04-09-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

The river depth stopped the progress. Where we crossed the first time was wide enough to drop the water level. Upstream the banks get narrow and steepen, making the water deeper and faster.

We might have been able to ford again, but we would have had to cross 3 more times to make this particular route work. Although, I have been looking online through some satellite shots and believe I have found another way to link to Log Corral with only 1 river crossing.

Google Earth is awesome ain't it? Hopefully I'll have mine done by June to be able to try some of these runs.

westy44runner · 04-09-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symon623

Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?

Westy, whats your OAW?

OAW? What measurement are you asking for? Sidewall to sidewall?

**Elvota** · 04-09-2007, 03:06 PM

I've been using mostly the MapQuest aerial view, but have heard great things about Google.

I just type in the nearest intersection to the trails and start scrolling. I only get a fuzzy image if I scroll well into the wilderness. I don't now how it compares to Google, but I have found tons of trails and washes that would have taken forever to link together on the ground.

You'll have to let us know when you get rolling. The more the merrier.

And Westy is the benchmark for making the "Squeeze" section. I can't imagine anyone being wider and still making it through.

Symon623 · 04-10-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

OAW? What measurement are you asking for? Sidewall to sidewall?

Yea....the one that would get you into a wedgy?

I think I'm 78, if I remember correctly.

Symon623 · 04-10-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

I've been using mostly the MapQuest aerial view, but have heard great things about Google.

I just type in the nearest intersection to the trails and start scrolling. I only get a fuzzy image if I scroll well into the wilderness. I don't now how it compares to Google, but I have found tons of trails and washes that would have taken forever to link together on the ground.

You'll have to let us know when you get rolling. The more the merrier.

And Westy is the benchmark for making the "Squeeze" section. I can't imagine anyone being wider and still making it through.

I'll be checkin out Mapquest stuff......

I was concerned if I would have any inssues through there, I am wider than stock.

westy44runner · 06-08-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symon623

Yea....the one that would get you into a wedgy?

I think I'm 78, if I remember correctly.

I'm at ~82" I believe.

wormhole · 06-08-2007, 04:07 PM

Joy another trail that I'm unable to take. lol !!
Anyways nice pictures.

SOAZtim · 06-08-2007, 04:21 PM

Actually you COULD take it! At least the parts that we did wed night. No problem!!

***Corey*** · 06-08-2007, 04:49 PM

Great pictures.
I never get tired of looking at the trip report section.

Lots of great rigs here on YotaTech.

04-08-2007, 12:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,458	Trail 404, AZ revisited Westy and I decided to head back out to the Camp Creek area and try to tie in a unexplored technical side canyon with Trail 404 and then on to the Verde. We had originally hoped to cross the Verde and tie this all in with Log Corral... but the big river only allowed one crossing, and we needed a few more to make it all work. Saw a Gila monster in the creek right of the bat. A rare find, even in AZ. First obstacle into the tech section was pretty tight... Sure it will fit... well, pretty sure... well, just go slow Westy flexing through Encroaching foliage (I swear there is a trail here) We walked up the creek to get an idea how doable the unknown tech sections where going to be. Both looked possible, so we decide to give them a try. Entering first obstacle Westy on the same Bit off camber with an aggressive twist... but traction was stout Westy needs only one rear wheel Hmmmm.... no way to back up now The golden line Entering section two Westy at the same spot Sure didn't look that steep before I'd like to personally thank Marlin for this controllable wheelstand Westy makes it look a little too easy Trail 404 has this amazingly tight box canyon. How tight? If Westy was 1" wider at the tires he would still be wedged in there as I type this. "Oh man... you've got plenty of room... quit your whining!!" Assessment of vehicle width has never been one of my strong points. This section feels like a mini version of Lions Back. Very mini, but still fun Finally made it to the Verde. Was a great way to go as a slot canyon just ends right at the bank. Girlfriend tested the waters depth. (I'll have to keep her around ) I crossed first... no issues Westy followed just as easily After screwing around trying to find a route to Log Corral, we were defeated by the water level and returned to civilization. Parting shot All in all it was a great day with some very tight trails with amazing views. The desert is close to full bloom. For the locals... get out there and enjoy it before things get to hot. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY Last edited by Elvota : 04-08-2007 at 08:39 AM.

04-08-2007, 12:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
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04-08-2007, 01:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
byron4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: coloRADo Posts: 358	very cool pictures. thanks for sharing! __________________ 1993 4runner: ARB air locker rear. aisin manual hubs. SDORI ball joint spacers, OME 901 coils, Sonoran Steel IFS truss, 33x10.5 BFG AT's, hacked into the dash clinometer, marlin crawler sliders, custom armorology rear bumper, and a lot of custom dents. -Byron

04-08-2007, 07:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 886	Great day yesterday...thanks Micki for the good photos! This really shows a good perspective of the climbs out of the wash - __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

04-09-2007, 10:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Symon623 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peoria AZ Posts: 113	Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight? Westy, whats your OAW? __________________ Sy 85 Syota - 4.3/700r4/300/60's/§XX§ High Country Renegades/ARC

04-08-2007, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Henrythewound Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 413	Wow, I would crap myself during some of those ascents. I'm alway worried stuff will roll under waaaay milder conditions. Looks awesome, maybe someday I'll be willing to put my runner through this kind of ringer. Good pics!

04-09-2007, 03:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,458	I've been using mostly the MapQuest aerial view, but have heard great things about Google. I just type in the nearest intersection to the trails and start scrolling. I only get a fuzzy image if I scroll well into the wilderness. I don't now how it compares to Google, but I have found tons of trails and washes that would have taken forever to link together on the ground. You'll have to let us know when you get rolling. The more the merrier. And Westy is the benchmark for making the "Squeeze" section. I can't imagine anyone being wider and still making it through. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY Last edited by Elvota : 04-09-2007 at 03:07 PM.

06-08-2007, 04:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,207	Joy another trail that I'm unable to take. lol !! Anyways nice pictures. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle

06-08-2007, 04:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
SOAZtim Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Snobsdale, SOuthern AriZona. Posts: 742	Actually you COULD take it! At least the parts that we did wed night. No problem!! __________________ Yotatech.com Oval Stickers FOR SALE HERE 2001 4runner. 255/85/16 Cooper ST's, DR coilovers, PP rear spring wit billies, 4.88's with Special magic front and rear. www.soaztim.com

06-08-2007, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,819	Great pictures. I never get tired of looking at the trip report section. Lots of great rigs here on YotaTech. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

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