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help me please

Posted 08-30-2010 at 10:53 PM by nick-crain-87yota
i just bought my first rig and it starts and runs fine but it bogs out on me on the highway. I get up to 60 and im fine but once i hit a little hill it starts to bog out and i gotta slow down to like 40 to down shift. i can live with it but i would really like to figure out what the problem is, ive been told its probably my webber carb but id like to get a second opinion before i get to work on it
any help would be apreciated
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    nick-crain-87yota's Avatar
    ive also been trying to figure a way to get some more power out of my little 22r
    ive been thinking about strait piping it to let er breath a little better but im worried there wont be enough back pressure. i would really like to get some helpful info so i can get my baby runnin good
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    Posted 08-30-2010 at 11:21 PM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    If nothing else id check the fuel pump and see if the tank is dirty, almost every toyota that sits up gets rust in the tank we had a truck like that once it would bog out but it wasnt nessasarly happening on a hill just anywere
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    Posted 08-31-2010 at 04:50 AM by wesley4x4 wesley4x4 is offline
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    Hate to say it but sounds like a typical 22r!!! Sometimes I would have to even get into 3rd on the highway up hill, if I were you start small like checking your filters and giving your carb a good cleaning with carb+choke cleaner, but in my opinion its just the little engine that could. Start savin son, soon your gonna be moddin that little guy ;)
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    Posted 09-03-2010 at 03:47 PM by A-ron A-ron is offline
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    what size tires are you running and with what gear ratio.......When you say bog down do you mean the motor spits and sputters or does it seem like the motor does not have enough power to push the tires?
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    Posted 09-04-2010 at 05:22 PM by Josh Hester Josh Hester is offline
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    nick-crain-87yota's Avatar
    thanks for the help but i think your right right dude im rollin 33 with 4:10s
    my buddie told me to go with 4:88s or somethin but i dont know like im not a full time wheeler but i want gearing so i can drive on the high way but muddin/wheeling part time
    if you know a good gearing for that i would really appreciate it
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    Posted 09-05-2010 at 11:25 AM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    oh and the motor doesnt sputter or nothing it just slows down just like slowly drops from like 3 grand 3 and a half to like 2 grand you know
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    Posted 09-05-2010 at 11:27 AM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    ok, 33's and 4:10s with a v6 or v8 will be fine. But you have to remeber, your only dealing with 100hp with the 22r. That is why a lot of people just put a v8 in thier yota, and keep the stock 4:10s. I have an 84 with a rebuilt 22r motor, bored 30 over with a 38 weber carb. going from stock to a 33" tire makes a huge difference with the 22r. Especially with steel wheels. I put 32/11.50/15 with steel wheels on my yota, and the difference was crazy! I felt like I had no power!! I put 4.88 gears in it and Dang!!! the difference!! it felt like I had my truck back. if you go 33" tire it is best to regear to 4:88,If you go bigger than a 33" use 5.29 gears. Also putting different gears in your truck is not just for the die hard offroader. All gearing does is make it easier for the motor to push the bigger tire that you are running. Hope this helps good luck
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    Posted 09-05-2010 at 11:57 AM by Josh Hester Josh Hester is offline
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    hey i really appreciate the help i think im gonna go with 4:88s. and im curious how much it costs to bore out my motor cause i love power and i dont really want to do a swap but im really happy i found yota tech man i would be lost with out it so thanks alot.
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    Posted 09-06-2010 at 12:19 AM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    if you want power, check out lcenginering. They build some pretty tough 22r motors. You can either buy a complete motor from them or just blueprint your own. If you wanting to bore your motor, it cost about 10 to 20 bucks a cylinder at a normal machine shop. Put the gears in first though. Trust me. you will be surprised. and you motor will be happier too. lol
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    Posted 09-06-2010 at 01:31 AM by Josh Hester Josh Hester is offline
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    [url]http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGear/[/url] here is the catalouge web address
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    Posted 09-06-2010 at 01:38 AM by Josh Hester Josh Hester is offline
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    hey thanks alot man i really appreciate the help
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    Posted 09-07-2010 at 11:54 AM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    oh and i was wondering if i could straight pipe my rig i pulled the cat already but im worried i wont have enough beck pressure without the muffler.
    a buddie of mine said take it off and put like a big S shape in the pipe to get more backpressure but i dont know im just thinkin the more she breaths the better?
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    Posted 09-07-2010 at 12:01 PM by nick-crain-87yota nick-crain-87yota is offline
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    ChefYota4x4's Avatar
    Hey Nick, ... I'm not an expert, by any means, but I've learned quite a bit in the last few months, and I would say that straight pipe, on the 22r, is not always a good idea. Even the pipe size (1.75", 2.0" or 2.25"--what I have now) can make a big difference... but you don't wanna go too big or limit all the back pressure unless you have SERIOUSLY opened up the motor, intake, exhaust side and otherwise. Some LCE motors are pushing 300HP, as are some of DOA's motors and also Engnbldr.com's. There are many more, but they all have a couple things in common. Bored out, polished and ported head, oversized valves, performance cam, Big Bore Throttle Body(on 22re's) or dialed in Hypo Carbs(perfect balance figured out in advance) and then exhaust. Most of those builders, that I've spoken too, personally, all say "NEVER go over 2.25" with the 22 motors.....Unless it's a full on drag motor." I would imagine that the Muffler could provide enough back pressure to keep ya in the pony realm that you want. Call LCE and Engnbldr and just ask them, "Here's what I have, or what I'd be willling to do.... and I was wondering, how can I get the most out of it in regards to exhaust system???" I guarantee they'll answer you... not always the same answer, but usually pretty close. The guys at LCE have given me lots of tips without trying to sell me anything,.... Tod, at engnbldr was even more helpful. DOA? Tim helped me as well, but you'll likely find people on here that say, "DON"T BOTHER with him!" .... I can only speak by my own experience... Very nice guy that other 22 builders, including engnbldr have told me "VERY capable guy, ...great racing motors".

    You must be in OR if you're not worried about smog, eh? lol.
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    Posted 11-04-2010 at 11:16 AM by ChefYota4x4 ChefYota4x4 is offline
 

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