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stormin94 · 12-07-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fastkevman

This list seems a little off to me.......how could the Taurus, Exploder, and Cavalier make a death list?
They made BILLIONS off these cars, shouldn't the list be full of failures that they spent millions on that didn't sell well and they lost money on instead?
The baby Jag is a good pick but hey where's the Pontiac Aztek.....that thing was freaky horrible, didn't sell for crap and cost tons to develop and manufacture.....now thats a failure and what truly cost them.
How about Mustang II's?
They were just wrong on so many levels!

Oh yeah, what about the Dodge Nitro?

How is the Astro a flop, or a desparate attempt to compete with the "superior" Japanese minivans of the times? What about the fact that Dodge/Chrysler had the minivan market pretty much to themselves? Would the early Honda Odessy be considered "advanced" for it's market segment? How about the fact that it took Honda until 2000 to make a van with sliding doors. Or how about the Mazda MPV with its Rear wheel drive body on frame construction which has more in common with trucks than vans. The even offered those with 4 wheel drive. Even the crowd favorite, Toyota, sucks in the minivan market. Have we forgotten the mid engined abortion that Toyota scambled up and forced to the market to compete with the American minivans? These are all the minivans of the 90's which the Astrovan(which is not technically a "minivan") competed with until GM added a "proper" minivan(Chevy Venture). The Chevy Astro is by no means a failure, and even though it was not updated for 5+ years, it still sold strong up until the end. The Astro van filled in a "niche" market, which minivans and regualar vans couldn't fill. The astrovan got decent mileage, which the larger vans didn't, and could also tow 4500 pounds, which the minivans couldn't, and still cannot.