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stormin94 · 12-07-2008, 03:31 PM

I'm not sure I agree with the statement that the earlier American econo cars were inferior in technology, on quality. What about the early 80's Nissan Stanza. Was that the pinnacle of engineering of the early 80's. Sure some of them had 4WD, but what else makes them special???

How about the Honda CVCC??? What sets that car apart from all the other econo crap of the 70's/80's?

Bottomline: People seem to want the big 3 to fail. Why? I'm not sure. Would it strengthen the economy, or teach anyone a lesson? NO. In fact if any one of the big three fails, the rest will soon follow. And many millions of Americans will be left without jobs, and the rest of us will be stuck to pick up the tab on the billions of dollars in tax revenues that the gov't will lose out on with the big three belly up.

I guess I'm partially bias, being that I really only like Toyota trucks and I could care less about anything else they make. The truth is, and this will come as a shocker to many: Toyota quality has declined to a far cry of what they built their reputation on.

That being said, Toyota is managed better than most other car companies. But, does that mean good management is reflected back to the consumer?

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stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,504	I'm not sure I agree with the statement that the earlier American econo cars were inferior in technology, on quality. What about the early 80's Nissan Stanza. Was that the pinnacle of engineering of the early 80's. Sure some of them had 4WD, but what else makes them special??? How about the Honda CVCC??? What sets that car apart from all the other econo crap of the 70's/80's? Bottomline: People seem to want the big 3 to fail. Why? I'm not sure. Would it strengthen the economy, or teach anyone a lesson? NO. In fact if any one of the big three fails, the rest will soon follow. And many millions of Americans will be left without jobs, and the rest of us will be stuck to pick up the tab on the billions of dollars in tax revenues that the gov't will lose out on with the big three belly up. I guess I'm partially bias, being that I really only like Toyota trucks and I could care less about anything else they make. The truth is, and this will come as a shocker to many: Toyota quality has declined to a far cry of what they built their reputation on. That being said, Toyota is managed better than most other car companies. But, does that mean good management is reflected back to the consumer? __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator